State your position on Israel and current events in the Middle East

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How would you label your position towards Israel?

  • 1. Full Blown Zionist -- I believe that Israel is God's chosen people and they can do no wrong.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 2. The Bible is the word of God -- Covenant with Abraham is eternal and Jews in Israel are sinners

    Votes: 9 56.3%
  • 3. Gaza is the victim in this war and Israel is the aggressor and criminal

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 4. I support Hamas, from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 5. Other

    Votes: 7 43.8%

  • Total voters
    16
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Shortert Heisunder13soImnotinterested "There is no proof, so I'll change the subject."

Your hatred of the Jews and love of little children is noted.
You should be ashamed of yourself.

And a moderator should do something regarding slander and defamation.
 
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You should be ashamed of yourself.

And a moderator should do something regarding slander and defamation.

Not that I want to be in the middle, but if you read back I think that was a reaction to something that was said. Like I said, this is a heated subject to begin with, but now it's not in a far away place. It's here. People are taking sides and it's getting to be a hotter debate by the second. Looks like the Mc Donalds comment didn't help or get a laugh or cool down the subject. Now it's just hanging out there like a sore toe. I don't know how to tone this one down. There is a lot of misinformation being spread without proof. They should start a post in the conspiracy forum if they want to post unfounded accusations.
 
Not that I want to be in the middle, but if you read back I think that was a reaction to something that was said. Like I said, this is a heated subject to begin with, but now it's not in a far away place. It's here. People are taking sides and it's getting to be a hotter debate by the second. Looks like the Mc Donalds comment didn't help or get a laugh or cool down the subject. Now it's just hanging out there like a sore toe. I don't know how to tone this one down. There is a lot of misinformation being spread without proof. They should start a post in the conspiracy forum if they want to post unfounded accusations.
I think the matter would be better served if some involved in bad talking others would take a breath and grow up.

We all know bridge dwellers abound on the Net.
If there were a global nuclear Holocaust the only surviving things would be cockroaches,the IRS tax computers and board trolls.

I think though there should be a line drawn against slander and defamation.
Someone calling a member a Pedophile is out of line.
 
Tourist said "I fully support the right of Israel to exist as a nation and to do whatever it takes to achieve a secure and peaceful existence."

which @CommodoreTeach interpreted as support for Epstein Island, rapists and child molestors.

"Here's one, in this very thread, copied below. "To do whatever it takes". The state of Israel has been using agents such as Epstein, involved in the rape of children, in order to achieve its political aims via blackmail. How depraved must one be to consider the rape of children to be justified for any reason? If one does consider the rape of children to be Satanic, why the lies by you, @ZNP, about HeIsHere and myself? While I realise posters such as Tourist likely didn't even conceive of the rape and murder of children in such statements as "to do whatever it takes", such Satanic behaviour is certainly technically included in the phrase, and indeed, is what the state of Israel has been and is engaged in, in order to maintain its power."

He used that post to calll me a liar because I said there was not one person who responded to the poll who said that Israel could do no wrong.

in another post he said

No, it proves you are the liar, ZNP. You stated that "100% of those who have not responded are not full blown Zionist who believe the Jews can do no wrong".

Which is a clear twisting of what I said. I said 100% of those who have responded. It was a reference to the poll, I have no idea what people who have not responded think. But it shows that @CommodoreTeach likes to accuse people of being liars.
 
Tourist said "I fully support the right of Israel to exist as a nation and to do whatever it takes to achieve a secure and peaceful existence."

which @CommodoreTeach interpreted as support for Epstein Island, rapists and child molestors.

"Here's one, in this very thread, copied below. "To do whatever it takes". The state of Israel has been using agents such as Epstein, involved in the rape of children, in order to achieve its political aims via blackmail. How depraved must one be to consider the rape of children to be justified for any reason? If one does consider the rape of children to be Satanic, why the lies by you, @ZNP, about HeIsHere and myself? While I realise posters such as Tourist likely didn't even conceive of the rape and murder of children in such statements as "to do whatever it takes", such Satanic behaviour is certainly technically included in the phrase, and indeed, is what the state of Israel has been and is engaged in, in order to maintain its power."

He used that post to calll me a liar because I said there was not one person who responded to the poll who said that Israel could do no wrong.

in another post he said

No, it proves you are the liar, ZNP. You stated that "100% of those who have not responded are not full blown Zionist who believe the Jews can do no wrong".

Which is a clear twisting of what I said. I said 100% of those who have responded. It was a reference to the poll, I have no idea what people who have not responded think. But it shows that @CommodoreTeach likes to accuse people of being liars.
Finally he demands that you repeat the words

Say the words, or its just more Zionist ranting and smoke. I put them below for you as a reminder. ;) "I condemn, fully and unequivocally, the modern state of Israel's employment of Jeffrey Epstein's pedophile blackmail operations, and I believe there is never any justification whatsoever for...

I asked for evidence that the State of Israel had been convicted of this, they balked. You have to take their word for it and agree with them to slander an entire nation or else they will feel free to say you support child molestors and rapists.

I think this is what triggered the other poster and that is what they wanted. They laid a trap, someone else responds and so there you go, he is the one that should be ashamed of himself.
 
I started this thread because Heishere and Commodoreteach were saying that the forum was full of Zionists. I wanted to know what people really felt rather than let these two speak for others. 15 people have responded to the poll and not a single person chose option #1. It is divided between Option #2 and "Other".

Also the stated point of this thread is for people to answer the question where they stand concerning Israel. Both HeisHere and Commodoreteach have refused to answer that question despite coming on this thread and insulting everyone else.

Anyway the thread has accomplished the purpose I set out for it. I am now much clearer on completely disregarding anything HeisHere or Commodoreteach has to say about Israel.
 
You should be ashamed of yourself.

And a moderator should do something regarding slander and defamation.

Yes, all the anti-Semetic accusations should be dealt with. Since they aren't, I am just using the same standards.

Edit: In fact, using the same standards, why do you take the quote of "love of children" that way?
 
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Yes, all the anti-Semetic accusations should be dealt with. Since they aren't, I am just using the same standards.

Edit: In fact, using the same standards, why do you take the quote of "love of children" that way?
Jesus said "do unto others as you would have them do unto you", you have turned that around and made the evil doer your Lord. We were told specifically not to fight evil with evil but to conquer evil with good.

If they lie and so you lie, that makes you a liar. If they slander and so you slander, that makes you a slanderer.

You are being conformed to the world, we were told not to be conformed to the world but to be transformed.
 
Jesus said "do unto others as you would have them do unto you", you have turned that around and made the evil doer your Lord. We were told specifically not to fight evil with evil but to conquer evil with good.

If they lie and so you lie, that makes you a liar. If they slander and so you slander, that makes you a slanderer.

You are being conformed to the world, we were told not to be conformed to the world but to be transformed.

I accept your chastisement, ZNP, because while we disagree on some things, you've earned my respect.

At the same time, I am the paradox of "Love your neighbor as yourself." I'm trying to be better, but I don't like myself very much at times.
 
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First show me the court where this has been confirmed that the modern state of Israel authorized the use of Epstein island. I don't doubt that the Mossad was involved, but intelligence agencies have many operations that are "black ops", kept secret from the State. Israel is a democracy and I understand the State to be all the elected officials. I suspect that the majority of the elected officials were kept in the dark over this.

But if you show me where this has been the judgement of a criminal court I will certainly agree to every word of that.
If you can't accept the obvious, no rational discussion is possible. I'm not asking you to state something unreasonable or unscriptural. I think your refusal to state this shows you are in the Zionist camp, ZNP. And you already know my take on Zionists.
 
If you can't accept the obvious, no rational discussion is possible. I'm not asking you to state something unreasonable or unscriptural. I think your refusal to state this shows you are in the Zionist camp, ZNP. And you already know my take on Zionists.

He had no problem asserting Musk was a Satanist based on a costume and some other things of which still were not conclusive and outside of a court of law.
Please read post #82, you may have the person on ignore.
 
If you can't accept the obvious, no rational discussion is possible. I'm not asking you to state something unreasonable or unscriptural. I think your refusal to state this shows you are in the Zionist camp, ZNP. And you already know my take on Zionists.
I agree, I have concluded that no rational discussion is possible with you. I consider you to be extremely unreasonable and unscriptural trying to demand others to slander people. Also, I think your refusal to answer the most simple questions like that asked in the poll indicates that your are deceitful.
 
Yes, all the anti-Semetic accusations should be dealt with. Since they aren't, I am just using the same standards.

Edit: In fact, using the same standards, why do you take the quote of "love of children" that way?

Semitic is a group of people who speak a semitic language.

Not one single post I have ever read on CC is anti-semitic.
 
He had no problem asserting Musk was a Satanist based on a costume and some other things of which still were not conclusive and outside of a court of law.
Please read post #82, you may have the person on ignore.

"Some other things" like Elon Musks own admission?

I have already conceded that I agree there is sufficient evidence to say that the Mossad is involved in Epstein Island. I have already condemned everything that took place on Epstein island.

But that is not his request, he wants me to condemn the entire nation of Israel for what a few people from Israel have done, perhaps as few as 10. That is not scriptural. God was willing to have mercy on Sodom and Gomorrah if just ten were righteous, but he wants me to call fire down on the entire nation if just ten are guilty. That is an ugly, twisted, despicable mindset.

And why is it that both of you refuse to state your position on Israel? That is the request of this thread. If you are not willing to do that don't post on this thread. This shows you are hiding something and are not trustworthy.
 
This is really horrible. :((n)
Thanks HeIsHere. Typical Zionist behaviour. No depth is too low, but I think this thread has proved that already. I liked Candace Owens interview/debate with that Rabbi Shmuley. A nasty piece of work, but revealed for the world to see. But the more the Zionists come out of the woodwork trying to defend the indefensible, the more people will see them for what they truly are.

I think it says a lot when people won't condemn pedophilia, child abuse and Satanism because of who is practicing it (not to mention the genocide, terrorism, fraud, theft, murder, etc. etc. which has been well-documented for decades). And that is all that needs to be said to close the matter, imho.
 
Thanks HeIsHere. Typical Zionist behaviour. No depth is too low, but I think this thread has proved that already. I liked Candace Owens interview/debate with that Rabbi Shmuley. A nasty piece of work, but revealed for the world to see. But the more the Zionists come out of the woodwork trying to defend the indefensible, the more people will see them for what they truly are.

I think it says a lot when people won't condemn pedophilia, child abuse and Satanism because of who is practicing it (not to mention the genocide, terrorism, fraud, theft, murder, etc. etc. which has been well-documented for decades). And that is all that needs to be said to close the matter, imho.

They do not even know what "anti" means. :rolleyes:
They just throw it around like they have been programmed to do.


"Anti" in any context is a CULT tactic, also well documented.
 
Semitic is a group of people who speak a semitic language.

Not one single post I have ever read on CC is anti-semitic.

You know HeIsnotmytype, I accept your admission that what I say is more than 'Accusations'. Admitting your flaws is an important step to self improvement. Now work on your hatred of others as a next step.
 
Thanks HeIsHere. Typical Zionist behaviour. No depth is too low, but I think this thread has proved that already. I liked Candace Owens interview/debate with that Rabbi Shmuley. A nasty piece of work, but revealed for the world to see. But the more the Zionists come out of the woodwork trying to defend the indefensible, the more people will see them for what they truly are.

I think it says a lot when people won't condemn pedophilia, child abuse and Satanism because of who is practicing it (not to mention the genocide, terrorism, fraud, theft, murder, etc. etc. which has been well-documented for decades). And that is all that needs to be said to close the matter, imho.
Wow it is amazing how much we agree. Yes, it does seem no depth is too low for the self righteous, finger pointing people who slander and condemn others. And yes, they have come out of the woodwork for all to see. Yes it says a lot when someone can refuse to answer a very simple and straightforward question, to state your position on Israel. I also agree that if this is all you are going to say, it is all that needs to be said, we can all see very clearly concerning your slander.
 
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Yeah thats the way to cool things down here. This hot summer is driving everyone crazy I think. It's been 110 consistently where I am. This is when I miss the ocean where I grew up.

So my favorite at Mc'Ds is their Deluxe Chicken Burger, and they have a yogurt parfait with frozen fruit that helps cool you down on a hot day. Ok next, what's your favorite Mc'Ds meal??

I have depression, PTSD, and Anxiety, and maybe a bit of the 'Tism. I was crazy long before now. :-)
 
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Thanks HeIsHere. Typical Zionist behaviour. No depth is too low, but I think this thread has proved that already. I liked Candace Owens interview/debate with that Rabbi Shmuley. A nasty piece of work, but revealed for the world to see. But the more the Zionists come out of the woodwork trying to defend the indefensible, the more people will see them for what they truly are.

I think it says a lot when people won't condemn pedophilia, child abuse and Satanism because of who is practicing it (not to mention the genocide, terrorism, fraud, theft, murder, etc. etc. which has been well-documented for decades). And that is all that needs to be said to close the matter, imho.


They are without excuse, Biblical Paul was killed because of Zionist fervour so obviously not Biblical.
The geo-politics / history of Zionism is also well documented.

And all the underbelly is now being revealed.
They want to silence the righteous to defend atrocities. uttered by the own government of Israel's mouths.
 
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