Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

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Who is THE THEM ? When was This applied to Whom ? Was That for The Kingdom of Heaven, or The Kingdom Of God ?
AND, Which of These Two Kingdoms are for Whom ?

DeepSeeker

I believe that Jesus is the incarnated word of God. I believe when we search the scriptures the goal is to see Jesus, because the scriptures testify of Jesus. Chuck Missler described the Bible as containing a holographic image of God. When you look at the image as a 2d image it is fuzzy. But if you shine a light through it that was identical to the light that made the image, then you will see the 3d image. He said storing information in this format resists anyone trying to distort it.

In summary, a combination of physical tamper-evident features, sophisticated manufacturing processes, and complex optical and visual security elements makes holographic images a robust defense against tampering and counterfeiting. Any attempt to interfere with the hologram will likely leave visible signs of damage, making it immediately apparent that the product or document has been tampered with.

There is no doubt that many of the things in the Bible are directly tied to historical events and those events help to define and understand the word.

However, 2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Therefore, when the Bible says "Let them be confounded and turned back that hate Zion". It is applicable to us, it is profitable for us. That word is part of the fiber of Jesus Christ and so when Jesus said

John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

If you are in Jesus Christ and you ask this, you are praying according to His will. The fact that this was a prayer of David or a prayer of Hezekiah or others, and that when they prayed the Lord answered, that doesn't mean the prayer is no longer God's will, it means that you have that much greater assurance that the Lord will answer. He did it before, He'll do it again.

We are told clearly that everything in the Old Testament is written for our benefit.

1 Corinthians 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.

The Bible reveals a living God, one that is present and active.

1 John 5:14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:

 

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Ecclesiastes 1:9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

I liken prophecy to the Mandlebrot set. You can look at some event in the Old Testament and see it again in the New Testament. Man fell according to Rabbinical teaching on the 9th of Av. Later the spies returned with the bad report on the 9th of Av causing the Jews to be cursed for a full 40 years (they had already spent two of those forty in the wilderness, so they had to continue wandering for another 38 years). Both Holy Temples were destroyed on the 9th of Av. The Jews lost the Battle of Betar in 133 AD on the 9th of Av, The Romans ploughed the temple mount on the 9th of Av, the Jews were expelled from England on the 9th of Av, the Jews were banished from Spain on the 9th of Av, and World War 1 began on the 9th of Av.

Everything in the Old Testament was done for our example, and again, I liken that to a Mandlebrot set.

 

[DeepSeeker]

I believe that Jesus is the incarnated word of God. I believe when we search the scriptures the goal is to see Jesus, because the scriptures testify of Jesus. Chuck Missler described the Bible as containing a holographic image of God. When you look at the image as a 2d image it is fuzzy. But if you shine a light through it that was identical to the light that made the image, then you will see the 3d image. He said storing information in this format resists anyone trying to distort it.

In summary, a combination of physical tamper-evident features, sophisticated manufacturing processes, and complex optical and visual security elements makes holographic images a robust defense against tampering and counterfeiting. Any attempt to interfere with the hologram will likely leave visible signs of damage, making it immediately apparent that the product or document has been tampered with.

There is no doubt that many of the things in the Bible are directly tied to historical events and those events help to define and understand the word.

However, 2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Therefore, when the Bible says "Let them be confounded and turned back that hate Zion". It is applicable to us, it is profitable for us. That word is part of the fiber of Jesus Christ and so when Jesus said

John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

If you are in Jesus Christ and you ask this, you are praying according to His will. The fact that this was a prayer of David or a prayer of Hezekiah or others, and that when they prayed the Lord answered, that doesn't mean the prayer is no longer God's will, it means that you have that much greater assurance that the Lord will answer. He did it before, He'll do it again.

We are told clearly that everything in the Old Testament is written for our benefit.

1 Corinthians 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.

The Bible reveals a living God, one that is present and active.

1 John 5:14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:

I appreciate Your comments. However, I see what was written in that scripture was written to The Gentiles at that Time.
Does that mean It is of no value Today ? Absolutely not!
It does mean; however, that It was written TO THEM DIRECTLY. IF I write A Letter to My friend, and much later someone find It. Then, after finding It, They say: "I like that, I will use it also for Myself. This is unfortunately what has taken place with The Bible scriptures many times.
When writing a letter, and I address It to a particular person, and someone finds It much later; should They take what was written to that person, and use It for Themselves? Yet many times, this is what occurs with the Bible text.

It was not until The Apostle Paul was appointed to go to The Gentiles, that The Gentles had spiritual salvation offered to Them.

DeepSeeker

 

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I appreciate Your comments. However, I see what was written in that scripture was written to The Gentiles at that Time.
Does that mean It is of no value Today ? Absolutely not!
It does mean; however, that It was written TO THEM DIRECTLY. IF I write A Letter to My friend, and much later someone find It. Then, after finding It, They say: "I like that, I will use it also for Myself. This is unfortunately what has taken place with The Bible scriptures many times.
When writing a letter, and I address It to a particular person, and someone finds It much later; should They take what was written to that person, and use It for Themselves? Yet many times, this is what occurs with the Bible text.

It was not until The Apostle Paul was appointed to go to The Gentiles, that The Gentles had spiritual salvation offered to Them.

DeepSeeker

I have a different view, Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today and forever. He is the incarnated word of God.

When I search the scriptures I come to find Jesus because that is what the scripture is testifying.

 

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We limit not the truth of God

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We limit not the truth of God
To our poor reach of mind,
By notions of our day and sect,
Crude, partial and confined.
Now let a new and better hope
Within our hearts be stirred:
The Lord hath yet more light and truth
To break forth from His Word.
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Who dares to bind by his dull sense
The oracles of heaven,
For all the nations, tongues and climes
And all the ages given!
The universe how much unknown!
That ocean unexplored!
The Lord hath yet more light and truth
To break forth from His Word.
3
Darkling our great forefathers went
The first steps of the way;
’Twas but the dawning yet to grow
Into the perfect day;
And grow it shall, our glorious Sun
More fervid rays afford:
The Lord hath yet more light and truth
To break forth from His Word.
4
The valleys past, ascending still,
Our souls would higher climb,
And look down from supernal heights,
On all the bygone times;
Upward we press, the air is clear,
And the sphere-music heard!
The Lord hath yet more light and truth
To break forth from His Word.
5
O Father, Son and Spirit, send
Us increase from above;
Enlarge, expand all Christian hearts
To comprehend Thy love;
And make us all go on to know
With nobler powers conferred:
The Lord hath yet more light and truth
To break forth from His Word.

I have no problem with someone who studies history or archaelogy and brings that knowledge to help us understand the word of God. However, I do have a problem with someone telling me we must read the word this way. There is a principle that understanding the meaning of the word at the time it was given is very important to understanding it today, that is fine. But if someone says this word does not apply to us today, that to me is not fine. That is directly contradictory to the Bible which says "all scripture is profitable for instruction". All of it is profitable to us today, all of it applies to us today. I also do not limit my understanding to what I was taught by Watchman Nee. I think he was an excellent Bible expositor. But that doesn't mean his Bible exposition is now canon. For example I believe that Luke 21 refers to the end of the age, the Day of the Lord after the church age is over. That aligns with Watchman Nee. I also believe it refers to 70 AD. That aligns with what others see. I believe it aligns to both. I believe the word is very clear to anyone who is open to reading it that this is the case. The people debating over this are limited by their sect, crude, partial and confined.

The Lord hath yet more light and truth To break forth from His Word.

 

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So then, let us consider what the Bible says about the rapture and the 9th of Av.

1. It will be as the days of Noah. Why did God flood the earth? It was because man had become flesh and their thoughts were on nothing but evil all day long. This is the same reason why the day of the Lord is coming. Noah's flood depicts the rapture as Noah (Christ) and seven more souls (the church) are delivered from that judgment. That judgment would be directly tied to the Fall of Man -- that is the 9th of Av. They enter the ark seven days before the rain falls and the ark rises. If you begin counting with the 9th of Av as the first day, seven days later is the 15th of Av, that is when the curse ended. The rapture will be seven years before the curse ends.

2. We are also told it will be as the days of Lot. Why did God rain fire on Sodom and Gomorrah? It was because the cry of their evil had risen up to heaven. This is why the Day of the Lord will come on the earth. Lot and his two daughters represent the apostasy, the left behind saints who will flee to the wilderness during the tribulation. Once again the rapture is a rescue that takes place at the same time as the judgment falls and we know from history that the judgment falls on the 9th of Av.

3. When Samson pushes out the two pillars (represents the rapture as the church is the pillar and base of the truth) the temple to Baal collapses and kills all the idolaters and false prophets. Once again, the rapture coincides with the judgement on man for the fall, and that takes place on the 9th of Av.

4. When Elijah calls down fire and all of Israel knows at that moment that Jehovah He is God and He is Lord, that depicts the rapture. At the same time the false prophets are taken down to the brook and killed. That means the judgment falls at the same time as the rapture and we know that the judgment falls on the 9th of Av.

5. When Moses comes down the mountain and breaks the two tablets because Israel is involved in Pagan worship and an orgy, that was the 9th of Av. At that time Moses calls for those who will stand with the Lord, the tribe of Levi goes up to Him, depicting the rapture and then everyone else drinks the bitter water depicting the tribulation and 3,000 are killed indicating judgment on the idolaters.

6. Pentecost is 50 days after the Lord's ascension, He ascended on Shavuot, and Pentecost is on the 8th of Av, the Feast of New wine (this is contrary to what is taught by the Catholic church and denominations, but that teaching is not Biblical, it is easy to prove without any doubt that Jesus ascended on Shavuot, not ten days before hand and that it was a full fifty days later that Pentecost took place and that was the Feast of new wine). This is when the Church age began. Therefore it makes perfect sense that it concludes on the 9th of Av.

7. When Jesus was asked about when these things would take place it was in reference to the temple being cast down and not one stone remaining on another. The temple is always cast down on the 9th of Av. The first two temples were both cast down on that date. Jesus said He would build His church and Paul said the church is the temple of God. The church is the third temple, at the rapture it will be cast down. If your faith is on the rock, on the revelation of Jesus Christ, then you will be raptured. If your faith is resting on what brother so and so says, or what the pastor says, then you are a stone that is resting on another stone and you will be cast down. This will happen on the 9th of Av.

 

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Manhattan NY, You Burn First 6-19-25@1:27 PM

Cities that will be targeted by suitcase nukes

Manhattan
Syracuse NY
Three in Texas
One in Virginia
One in Maryland
Two in California
One in Florida

Everyone should have sought the Lord whether or not they need to leave. If you live in NY, Texas, Virginia, Maryland, California or Florida you should be crying out to the Lord for the location. Even if you do not live in the ten block area that is incinerated, and even if you do not live within a mile of the blast the impact will still be devastating. The air and water will be contaminated and the power will be out.

 

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How have I hated instruction, and my heart despised reproof; (Proverbs 5:12)

When you suffer calamity in your personal life, or in your career then you will say "How have I hated instruction, and my heart despised reproof;".

Once you learn this you will love instruction and you will love reproof.

 

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A closer look at the Apostasy

Proverbs 7:1 My son, keep my words, and lay up my commandments with thee.

The apostasy means to depart. There is a big debate over whether it refers to the rapture or whether it refers to the church departing from the Lord. The first use of this word refers to Jews departing from the words of Moses. So I'm not going to even bother with whether or not we are talking about the rapture, the New Testament clearly talks about God's people departing from His word and His commandments.

2 Keep my commandments, and live; and my law as the apple of thine eye.

One of the biggest debates today is over "works salvation". So let's address this. On the one hand there is absolutely nothing you can do to save yourself from sin. You have sinned, you are a debtor to sin, and you cannot pay off that debt, hence you are a slave to sin. Jesus paid the full price when He died on the cross and poured out His blood for you. The only way to be saved from sin is to receive Jesus' redemption, let the Lord's blood pay the price for your sin. To do that you must confess your sins and receive the salvation that Jesus wrought as a free gift of grace.

That said the New Testament commands us to "believe and be baptized". It isn't a suggestion, it is a command. You are not saved from sin by being baptized. According to the New Testament baptism is the testimony of a heart that is right with God. If you pray to the Lord and get saved you can tell your friends in the world and they will say "Cool". You can talk about the Lord's love, and peace and forgiveness and everyone will be fine with that. Not much different from someone telling them about how Yoga helps them or Transcendental Meditation or LSD. But, if you go and get baptized after believing watch their faces drop. "Why would you go and do that?" Finding God and being spiritual are fully acceptable in the world, but being baptized, no that is a testimony that you are leaving the world and following Jesus. That is not acceptable.

That was my testimony. I did not see any reason why I needed to be baptized, as far as I was concerned I was saved. However, they showed me in the word of God where we are told to believe and then be baptized (I had been christened as a child). My thought was "If Jesus says we need to do this fine, I'll do it". That obedience begins a new process of salvation, not from sin, but the salvation of your soul. We are rebellious, we are all doing what is right in our own eyes. To declare that Jesus is Lord is one thing, to actually do what He says, well that is proof that He is Lord of your life. This is why Philippians says to "work out your own salvation with fear and trembling". He isn't talking about salvation from sin, he is talking about the salvation of your rebellious soul.

3 Bind them upon thy fingers, write them upon the table of thine heart.

This is. a reference to the New Covenant that Ezekiel talks about where God will write His word on our heart. An engagement ring is "bound on your finger". When you bind the word to your actions then to God it is comparable to wearing an engagement ring. Anyone can say they love the Lord, but the Lord said "if you love Me why don't you do the things that I command?"

4 Say unto wisdom, Thou art my sister; and call understanding thy kinswoman:

Think of all the jokes about how no one can understand women. No one is going to understand the whole Bible from day one. Rather you get to know the Bible, think of it as a relationship where you get to know a close relative who is a woman.

5 That they may keep thee from the strange woman, from the stranger which flattereth with her words.

As a rule the women I am related to are more diplomatic and considerate of others feelings than I am. But they don't flatter with their words. They may show interest, they may appreciate certain things, but if there is something they don't like they will let you know. So this works equally well for a Pastor. A pastor should be more diplomatic, more considerate, more circumspect with his words than what you typically see in the world. No coarse jesting, no corrupt speech, etc. However, they aren't supposed to flatter you, that would be strange.

6 For at the window of my house I looked through my casement,

The church is the house of God, it is also the family of God. We don't have a thousand people living in one house as a family, that would be strange. The largest family I ever knew had sixteen children, but even so by the time the youngest was born (my friend) some of his oldest brothers and sisters had already gotten married and had kids of their own, so even then you didn't have all of them living under one roof. If the church you meet with is not like a family then something is strange. If you go to church and half the people are strangers then something is very strange about that church.

7 And beheld among the simple ones, I discerned among the youths, a young man void of understanding,

The reason people are in the apostasy is because they are void of understanding. They may quote Bible verses, but they are void of understanding the harm of being in that assembly. If you are in the apostasy, I don't mean that some of the people in the congregation are sinners, that is the church as the hospital. I mean that you are in a church that is leaving the word of God, a church that does not obey the commandments of God. They pick and choose what they will keep. I'm not talking about legalistic. For example, one rule in the New Testament is that the Pastor is the husband of one wife. If they ignore that and say it is out of date or sexist then they have departed from the word of God. They do that because they are void of understanding. The church is composed of men and women, hence the leader of the church needs to be both man and woman, to get that you need a pastor who is married. Second, we have a lot of damaged people who come into the church and the first evidence of damage is a damaged marriage. As a result we need the pastor to be an example to the flock showing them the way of salvation and one evidence that this is the case is a good marriage. No one knows the real situation of a man better than his wife and children, the best way to vet someone is to see that those relationships are good. This rule is not sexist, what is sexist is having a single person be the pastor whether male or female. This rule is not hypocritical, you aren't picking the guy who can speak the best, you are picking the guy who is the best example of a life lived for the Lord.

8 Passing through the street near her corner; and he went the way to her house,

Why do people who are void of understanding get attracted to the apostate churches? I find this expression strange "the way to her house". If I look out my window and see someone walking down the street or driving down the street I would not assume they were going "the way to a harlot's house". To me this sounds like there are big signs saying "this church, this way".

9 In the twilight, in the evening, in the black and dark night:

At this time it is very hard to see blemishes. The church should be a lighthouse, when you get into the meeting you should feel like you have stepped into the light. If you go to a church where you feel like you can hide and no one will see you that is a strange church. A church like this will be very comfortable for sinners. Think of being a sinner as being someone who has leprosy. You don't want to go into the light, it is exposing, but it is also the only way you will get well. We have to confess our sins and repent of them and the best way is to shine a bright light so that we can't ignore them.

 

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A closer look at the Apostasy (part 2)

Proverbs 7:10 And, behold, there met him a woman with the attire of an harlot, and subtil of heart.

If you are void of understanding you assume no one is out hunting for you, no one is lying in wait for you. This woman is like a salesman who works on commission. If you go to a church that seems more like a company that is looking at the monthly sales than like a family, that is a strange church. A harlot is a woman who sees her relationships with men as transactional, like a saleswoman, rather than as a wife.

11 (She is loud and stubborn; her feet abide not in her house:

If you think you "like this" then you are void of understanding. Who wants a wife that does not abide in the house? Loud and stubborn is strange for a woman because women grow up in a society where they are smaller and weaker than men. A normal woman will be thinking of risks, she will want to be with several friends because on her own she is much more likely to be taken advantage of.

12 Now is she without, now in the streets, and lieth in wait at every corner.)

If this is the way she is when she is single she won't change simply because she is married. She is what she is and she enjoys being who she is. The reason the man who is void of understanding gets involved with her is because it is easy. She caught him, not the other way around. The proper way to find a wife and to find a church is to pray about it and to be led by the Lord. If there are big signs, billboards, neon lights, ads on TV, that is not being led by the Lord. That is someone who lieth in wait for you.

13 So she caught him, and kissed him, and with an impudent face said unto him,

An impudent face is a major flashing red light, do not get involved with a woman who has an impudent face. In the same way do not get involved with a church that has an impudent face. This word means "not showing due respect for another person". What you must see in any church is that they are showing due respect to Jesus Christ. Jesus is the incarnated word of God, to show due respect to Jesus means you must also show due respect to the word of God. For example "our creed is 'the Bible only'". What they are saying is we believe whatever the Bible says. They may also say they believe the Bible is the inerrant word of God. An impudent church will says that the Bible is out of date, it is sexist, it is anachronistic, etc.

14 I have peace offerings with me; this day have I payed my vows.

This is a stunning thing to say. She is a harlot and an adulterous woman seducing a man to commit adultery with her. Yet at the same time she has "peace offerings with her and she has already paid her vows". The vows indicate thanksgiving. The apostasy is just like this, they give thanks that they have been forgiven of sin and now have peace with God and yet it has not impacted their living at all. They can live in sin with impunity. Imagine listening to an adulterous wife talk this way, you would thing "this is a strange woman, a strange marriage, let me slowly back away from this".

15 Therefore came I forth to meet thee, diligently to seek thy face, and I have found thee.

This is what cults do, it is called "drinking the kool aid". Because I am so happy and full of thanksgiving I want to share it with the world. But you have a married woman, dressed as a harlot, walking the city streets to snare men to have an adulterous affair with. Don't listen to their "happy talk" look at what they do, not what they say.

16 I have decked my bed with coverings of tapestry, with carved works, with fine linen of Egypt. 17 I have perfumed my bed with myrrh, aloes, and cinnamon.

Who does this? It sounds like the honeymoon suite in Las Vegas. The gospel in the apostasy is that you can be forgiven of sins, go to heaven and still live in sin and depravity. It does not pass the smell test.

18 Come, let us take our fill of love until the morning: let us solace ourselves with loves. 19 For the goodman is not at home, he is gone a long journey: 20 He hath taken a bag of money with him, and will come home at the day appointed.

Why do you think some people are so concerned about "when the rapture will be"? If you are living every day one with the Lord, walking according to the will of God and full of life and peace, does it really matter? However, if you are this adulterous harlot, you know your husband will come home one day with a bag of money and you certainly don't want to get caught in bed with another man on that day, then it matters a whole lot. This word exposes the whole lie. She knows that she does not want to be caught in the act of adultery when the Lord comes home, yet she pretends it is OK because she is forgiven. If you fall for that garbage then you are void of understanding.