Sun of Righteousness

[Omegatime]

“For behold, the day comes, burning like an oven, when all the arrogant and all evildoers will be stubble; the day that comes shall burn them up, says the Lord of hosts, so that it will leave them neither root nor branch. 2 But for you who fear my name the sun of righteousness shall rise, with healing in its wings. You shall go forth leaping like calves from the stall.

What do you see in these scriptures and why Sun not Son

 

[LeeLoving]

From this verse it seems like it's speaking of a day when evildoers will be "made stubble", but for those that fear the name of the Lord of hosts, the sun of righteousness shall rise, and so forth.

It doesn't seem to be speaking about a person.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

“For behold, the day comes, burning like an oven, when all the arrogant and all evildoers will be stubble; the day that comes shall burn them up, says the Lord of hosts, so that it will leave them neither root nor branch. 2 But for you who fear my name the sun of righteousness shall rise, with healing in its wings. You shall go forth leaping like calves from the stall.

What do you see in these scriptures and why Sun not Son

“Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days.” (The days of Christ and the church )
‭‭Acts‬ ‭3:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the prophets use a lot of imagery like for instance “ the bright sun rising up with healing in his wings “ to foretell the appearance of Jesus the light of the world on esrth

the ots main function for us in Christ was to foretell the coming of Gods begotten son the messiah one day the the future to Jerusalem

they did this often through figures like the sun rising , the right arm of God reaching into the earth , or the appearance of a good shepherd sent by God

all of those things are actually foretelling the arrival of Jesus his birth preaching the gospel his power and miracles his teachings in the gospel his death suffering and resurrection from the dead his ascention back to the throne ect all the prophets are part of that witness and they used different imagery

“The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwell in the land of the shadow of death, upon them hath the light shined.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭9:2‬ ‭

you see how the rising of the sun fits together with that

“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭9:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I’d say it’s one of the prophets foretelling the messiahs arrival on earth about 700 years beforehand in a figure and image

 

[John146]

“For behold, the day comes, burning like an oven, when all the arrogant and all evildoers will be stubble; the day that comes shall burn them up, says the Lord of hosts, so that it will leave them neither root nor branch. 2 But for you who fear my name the sun of righteousness shall rise, with healing in its wings. You shall go forth leaping like calves from the stall.

What do you see in these scriptures and why Sun not Son

Speaking of the returnof Christ as King of kings and his 1,000 year reign.

1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.

 

[Omegatime]

“Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days.” (The days of Christ and the church )
‭‭Acts‬ ‭3:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the prophets use a lot of imagery like for instance “ the bright sun rising up with healing in his wings “ to foretell the appearance of Jesus the light of the world on esrth

the ots main function for us in Christ was to foretell the coming of Gods begotten son the messiah one day the the future to Jerusalem

they did this often through figures like the sun rising , the right arm of God reaching into the earth , or the appearance of a good shepherd sent by God

all of those things are actually foretelling the arrival of Jesus his birth preaching the gospel his power and miracles his teachings in the gospel his death suffering and resurrection from the dead his ascention back to the throne ect all the prophets are part of that witness and they used different imagery

“The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwell in the land of the shadow of death, upon them hath the light shined.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭9:2‬ ‭

you see how the rising of the sun fits together with that

“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭9:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I’d say it’s one of the prophets foretelling the messiahs arrival on earth about 700 years beforehand in a figure and image

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I myself both comings in these scriptures.

The first coming we know was on Passover weekend, but using the Sun and not Son told me it was exactly at the end of the 4000th year---As the Sun was made on the 4th day of creation

 

[Omegatime]

Speaking of the returnof Christ as King of kings and his 1,000 year reign.

1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.

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Yes, it does speak of his return and 1000 year reign. Story is told over and over again. This Day is the Day of the Lord which is the same as saying the 1000 year reign of the lord.

Burning of the tares will begin on the Day of the Lord as well as the resurrection/rapture. Same as the story from Prophet Joel and Apostle Peter. Great and Terrible Day of the Lord and Great and Glorious Day of the Lord. Begins at last moment of the Last or Seventh Trump and begins the Bowl Judgements. This is how the Lord shortens the days. Prophet Daniel called this day as the Blessed Day which happens on the 1335th Day of the Tribulation

 

[Pilgrimshope]

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I myself both comings in these scriptures.

The first coming we know was on Passover weekend, but using the Sun and not Son told me it was exactly at the end of the 4000th year---As the Sun was made on the 4th day of creation

Yeah I’m not really one who like to calculate the days and hours of his return but it sounds interesting you must be calculating a day as literally a thousand years ?

I look more at it like this regarding the timing

“But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. For they that sleep, sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night. But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him. Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do. And we beseech you, brethren, to know them which labour among you, and are over you in the Lord, and admonish you; and to esteem them very highly in love for their work's sake. And be at peace among yourselves. Now we exhort you, brethren, warn them that are unruly, comfort the feebleminded, support the weak, be patient toward all men. See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves, and to all men. Rejoice evermore. Pray without ceasing. In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you. Quench not the Spirit. Despise not prophesyings. Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Abstain from all appearance of evil. And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it. I charge you by the Lord that this epistle be read unto all the holy brethren.”
‭‭1 Thessalonians‬ ‭5:1-24, 27‬ ‭KJV‬‬

same thing really Peter said

“But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:10-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

i think we’re meant to repent and live as if Jesus could return tomorrow or maybe a thousand years jesus told a parable about a thief arriving in the night is why Peter and Paul are talking about a thief in the night and his return ….

 

[Omegatime]

Each Day of creation represents a thousand years. Been studying time for 40 years and I have no doubt about what i wrote. For some he will come as a thief in the night, for others everyone should know the very day. Are we not to assembly to meet the Lord.

Everyone had some excuses before as some scripture were sealed, but that excuse is no longer valid. From the time the man who will be called the antichrist making a covenany with many till the Blessed Day or the Day of the Lord is exactly 1335 days. There is only one time this is possible. From the Feast of Trumpets to the 1335th Blessed day is the day of Pentecost. This doesn't happen every year, but a select few, and only one in near future. Lord uses the feasts to complete his story.

 

[Omegatime]

Everyone should do a time study starting in Genesis 5. It's an eye opener.

 

[Obedience]

For some he will come as a thief in the night

But for you who fear my name the sun of righteousness shall rise, with healing in its wings. You shall go forth leaping like calves from the stall.

People who know that Jesus has come in the day.
People who don't know that Jesus has come in the night.

So it is "sun of righteousness" not son of righteousness.

 

[lovejoypeaceetc]

It's the word שֶׁ֣מֶשׁ which means "sun" in Malachi 4:2

(še·meš, https://biblehub.com/hebrew/8121.htm, https://biblehub.com/interlinear/malachi/4-2.htm)

The word for "son" is completely distinct so there's no connection intended

(בֵּ֚ן bên https://biblehub.com/hebrew/1121.htm such as in https://biblehub.com/interlinear/isaiah/9-6.htm)


I suppose it's using night as a metaphor for a time when wickedness can thrive unchecked - and day as a time when righteousness can prevail. So it's like the hope of dawn. This is bringing to mind John 3:19, Romans 13:13.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Each Day of creation represents a thousand years. Been studying time for 40 years and I have no doubt about what i wrote. For some he will come as a thief in the night, for others everyone should know the very day. Are we not to assembly to meet the Lord.

Everyone had some excuses before as some scripture were sealed, but that excuse is no longer valid. From the time the man who will be called the antichrist making a covenany with many till the Blessed Day or the Day of the Lord is exactly 1335 days. There is only one time this is possible. From the Feast of Trumpets to the 1335th Blessed day is the day of Pentecost. This doesn't happen every year, but a select few, and only one in near future. Lord uses the feasts to complete his story.

“For some he will come as a thief in the night, for others everyone should know the very day. “

“Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭25:13‬ ‭

maybe more study of what Jesus said about these things would change your mind ?

“Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning: lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping. And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭13:35-37‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.”
‭‭1 Thessalonians‬ ‭5:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The homeowner doesn’t know when the thief will arrive so he watches so that he’s ready when he comes he’s wise he’s heard the truth and so he needs the instruction to watch because he doesn’t know the day or hour

“knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, and saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

….but the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:3-4, 7, 10‬ ‭KJV‬‬


Paul and Peter didn’t know the day Jesus didn’t know the day said no man knows no angel knows only God the father knows the day but you “studied time “ and figured it all out ?

“But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:36‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Maybe it’s possible sometimes we are wrong bout our conclusions

 

[lovejoypeaceetc]

continuing from my last (I was too late to edit):

The coming of the day of righteousness is a relief for the meek faithful because they will be able to live their good lives unharassed by injustice. (This is reminding me of Matthew 5:3-12.) It's a terror for anyone who contributes to godlessness/lawlessness, though. We need to be covered by Christ because we are all doing wrong.

 

[Omegatime]

“For some he will come as a thief in the night, for others everyone should know the very day. “

“Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭25:13‬ ‭

maybe more study of what Jesus said about these things would change your mind ?

“Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning: lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping. And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭13:35-37‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.”
‭‭1 Thessalonians‬ ‭5:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The homeowner doesn’t know when the thief will arrive so he watches so that he’s ready when he comes he’s wise he’s heard the truth and so he needs the instruction to watch because he doesn’t know the day or hour

“knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, and saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

….but the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:3-4, 7, 10‬ ‭KJV‬‬


Paul and Peter didn’t know the day Jesus didn’t know the day said no man knows no angel knows only God the father knows the day but you “studied time “ and figured it all out ?

“But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:36‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Maybe it’s possible sometimes we are wrong bout our conclusions

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I'm going to be real bold here. The coming months you will probably see even this nation turn against Israel. Most of the world will look down on Israel and most already do and they will try to isolate Israel. This will set the stage for the coming antichrist to make a covenant with many in the middle east and Med sea area.

So Next year on the Feast of Trumpets the covenant will be made.

Because you fail to include time and all of the prophecies, you lack knowledge. I am being bold but I know who has been guiding me the last 40 years. Turmoil will come upon this earth before the Feast of trumpets.

Your scripture-Day of the lord coming like a thief-is for those who have not a clue into the fire they will enter during the bowl judgments. But for believers it is the Great and Glorious Day of the Lord. Acts 2:20

 

[vassal]

“For behold, the day comes, burning like an oven, when all the arrogant and all evildoers will be stubble; the day that comes shall burn them up, says the Lord of hosts, so that it will leave them neither root nor branch. 2 But for you who fear my name the sun of righteousness shall rise, with healing in its wings. You shall go forth leaping like calves from the stall.

What do you see in these scriptures and why Sun not Son

the sun burns, cleanses, this is analogous of the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah by fire and brimstone, also the destruction of Jerusalem and city by fire, the roots say all will be destroyed nothing will be left. the same will happen on the day of the lord. so the sun is the son of GOD coming with vengeance!

My opinion simply.
Blessings.

 

[vassal]

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I'm going to be real bold here. The coming months you will probably see even this nation turn against Israel. Most of the world will look down on Israel and most already do and they will try to isolate Israel. This will set the stage for the coming antichrist to make a covenant with many in the middle east and Med sea area.

So Next year on the Feast of Trumpets the covenant will be made.

Because you fail to include time and all of the prophecies, you lack knowledge. I am being bold but I know who has been guiding me the last 40 years. Turmoil will come upon this earth before the Feast of trumpets.

Your scripture-Day of the lord coming like a thief-is for those who have not a clue into the fire they will enter during the bowl judgments. But for believers it is the Great and Glorious Day of the Lord. Acts 2:20

yeah, I see the end coming too at an exponential rate! could be a nuclear war also explaining perhaps the SUN in the OP prophecy.

 

[Mem]

The sun is indicative of the dual power of it light, and there are many benefits derived from sunlight, but it can also scorch. The sun of righteousness distinction is indicative of something more than the common sun's indiscriminate power. They sun lacks the discernment between what it will scorch and what it will strengthen.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

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I'm going to be real bold here. The coming months you will probably see even this nation turn against Israel. Most of the world will look down on Israel and most already do and they will try to isolate Israel. This will set the stage for the coming antichrist to make a covenant with many in the middle east and Med sea area.

So Next year on the Feast of Trumpets the covenant will be made.

Because you fail to include time and all of the prophecies, you lack knowledge. I am being bold but I know who has been guiding me the last 40 years. Turmoil will come upon this earth before the Feast of trumpets.

Your scripture-Day of the lord coming like a thief-is for those who have not a clue into the fire they will enter during the bowl judgments. But for believers it is the Great and Glorious Day of the Lord. Acts 2:20

“I'm going to be real bold here. The coming months you will probably see even this nation turn against Israel.”

yeah I can already see that it’s been perpetual since Jesus said they were cursed and desolate and would be hated by all peoples but if they repented and believed the gospel they would be saved after the tribulation that he said was coming upon them all

Yes I agree every nation ends up turning against Israel in the end it happens about e wry other generation or so like he said would happen if they broke his covenant written in it clearly 🙂

“Your scripture-Day of the lord coming like a thief-is for those who have not a clue into the fire they will enter during the bowl judgments. “

wow so Jesus , Paul , Peter were all teaching christians the wrong things in scripture ? When scripture becomes wrong because your figgerin’ is right…..there’s a problem

“Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. ….Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:42, 44‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭25:13‬ ‭

“For the Son of man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch. Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning: lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping. And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭13:34-37‬ ‭

sometimes the best thing we can do is listen to what the lords saying about a subject first then maybe even his apostles make better sense

“But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.”
‭‭1 Thessalonians‬ ‭5:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.”
‭‭1 Thessalonians‬ ‭5:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“But the end of all things is at hand: ( 1900 years ago ) be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭4:7‬ ‭

“Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.

Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭20:30-31‬ ‭

“For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.

Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭21:35-36‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God,

wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:10-13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

It’s part of the doctrine not to know the timing because we’re supposed to live like it could be tomorrow live upright while we wait for him

“For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;”
‭‭Titus‬ ‭2:11-13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Im not sure that you know but that’s just me . What you refer to as tbat scripture thing for the clueless I think of it as what was actually said by God so that could be the disconnect when someone’s “prophesying “ the opposite of the Bible it’s always a red flag for me

 

[Obedience]

“I'm going to be real bold here. The coming months you will probably see even this nation turn against Israel.”

yeah I can already see that it’s been perpetual since Jesus said they were cursed and desolate and would be hated by all peoples but if they repented and believed the gospel they would be saved after the tribulation that he said was coming upon them all

Yes I agree every nation ends up turning against Israel in the end it happens about e wry other generation or so like he said would happen if they broke his covenant written in it clearly 🙂

“Your scripture-Day of the lord coming like a thief-is for those who have not a clue into the fire they will enter during the bowl judgments. “

wow so Jesus , Paul , Peter were all teaching christians the wrong things in scripture ? When scripture becomes wrong because your figgerin’ is right…..there’s a problem

“Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. ….Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:42, 44‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭25:13‬ ‭

“For the Son of man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch. Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning: lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping. And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭13:34-37‬ ‭

sometimes the best thing we can do is listen to what the lords saying about a subject first then maybe even his apostles make better sense

“But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.”
‭‭1 Thessalonians‬ ‭5:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.”
‭‭1 Thessalonians‬ ‭5:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“But the end of all things is at hand: ( 1900 years ago ) be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭4:7‬ ‭

“Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.

Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭20:30-31‬ ‭

“For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.

Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭21:35-36‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God,

wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:10-13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

It’s part of the doctrine not to know the timing because we’re supposed to live like it could be tomorrow live upright while we wait for him

“For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;”
‭‭Titus‬ ‭2:11-13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Im not sure that you know but that’s just me . What you refer to as tbat scripture thing for the clueless I think of it as what was actually said by God so that could be the disconnect when someone’s “prophesying “ the opposite of the Bible it’s always a red flag for me

@soberxp