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p_rehbein

p_rehbein

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That's a common misconception about anarcho-capitalism. It wouldn't be just some insane free for all. There would be laws and everyone would be able to have (and openly carry) a firearm to prevent riff raff. It would be just a little different than the Wild West, which really wasn't that bad of an era for America. Think about the Israelites of the Bible (before the kings). Pretty close example of an Anarchist society (although the Israelites seem to have leaned on a blend of Anarcho-capitalism and Anarcho-communism)


But, but, if there are Laws.......that mean these Laws would Govern the lives/actions of the citizens, and there must needs be a Government to enforce said laws.......and this would NOT:

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we agree on what the cancer is, but an Anarcho-capitalist society kills the cancer at it's root: Government.

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Bushido8000

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p_rehbein said:
That's a common misconception about anarcho-capitalism. It wouldn't be just some insane free for all. There would be laws and everyone would be able to have (and openly carry) a firearm to prevent riff raff. It would be just a little different than the Wild West, which really wasn't that bad of an era for America. Think about the Israelites of the Bible (before the kings). Pretty close example of an Anarchist society (although the Israelites seem to have leaned on a blend of Anarcho-capitalism and Anarcho-communism)


But, but, if there are Laws.......that mean these Laws would Govern the lives/actions of the citizens, and there must needs be a Government to enforce said laws.......and this would NOT:

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we agree on what the cancer is, but an Anarcho-capitalist society kills the cancer at it's root: Government.

END QUOTE....

:)
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No no, government is needed for REGULATION. Not laws. But I'm glad you brought up that argument so I could drop this bomb of an article

https://christophercantwell.com/2014/05/01/crime-anarcho-capitalist-society/

You see, essentially (at least partially) WE would be the police, and where we can't (or wont), markets provide my friend.
That's the back bone of an Anarcho-capitalist society. Delicious, free market trade.
 
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p_rehbein

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Bushido8000 said:
No no, government is needed for REGULATION. Not laws. But I'm glad you brought up that argument so I could drop this bomb of an article

https://christophercantwell.com/2014/05/01/crime-anarcho-capitalist-society/

You see, essentially (at least partially) WE would be the police, and where we can't (or wont), markets provide my friend.
That's the back bone of an Anarcho-capitalist society. Delicious, free market trade.
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Regulations ARE Laws.

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Everyone having a gun is no more the answer than Nobody having a gun. People can create a "perfect society" in theory. However, once the "human factor" is introduced into the theory, it becomes terminally flawed.

Even the "society" the guy in the Article describes will fail due to the human factor.

A person gains a little power over persons/places/things.....will begin to hunger for more power over persons/places/things, for this is the nature of humans. Another person will witness and begin to covet the power the first person has over persons/places/things, and seek to gain said power for themselves, and thus conflict is born.

And, given that everyone has guns, the real possibility of violent confrontation(s) is born, and the perfect society is lost forever amid the gun smoke of conflicting desires for power.
 
Bushido8000

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p_rehbein said:
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Regulations ARE Laws.

Additional thought:

Everyone having a gun is no more the answer than Nobody having a gun. People can create a "perfect society" in theory. However, once the "human factor" is introduced into the theory, it becomes terminally flawed.

Even the "society" the guy in the Article describes will fail due to the human factor.

A person gains a little power over persons/places/things.....will begin to hunger for more power over persons/places/things, for this is the nature of humans. Another person will witness and begin to covet the power the first person has over persons/places/things, and seek to gain said power for themselves, and thus conflict is born.

And, given that everyone has guns, the real possibility of violent confrontation(s) is born, and the perfect society is lost forever amid the gun smoke of conflicting desires for power.
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Regulations are control mechanisms, not laws.

The problem is that you're assuming that an anarchist society is some sort of utopia. It's far from it. I desire a free society, but what needs to be understood is that...

A Free Society Is Not The Same Thing As A Civilized Society. Of course there will be conflicts between people with guns, that's the point. That's how things were sorted out in the Wild West. Gentlemen regularly agreed to have duels throughout American history. The concept is that if someone tries to rob you, you can kill them. If you are in a city and someone tries to rob or kill someone in public, the public can immediately kill the criminal. Also, there would need to be conditioning before an Anarchist society developed. Just like we needed to be conditioned to accept and function in a Democratic Republic.

There wouldn't be anymore mass shootings

 
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