Lol....Hi DC,....Can I say somethin' to all the foolish in the world? ...Ummm....Naw, better not! ROFL
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Go right ahead....it cant get any worse than what it already is I suppose HAH
The Antichrist, is a part of the big delusion.
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Go right ahead....it cant get any worse than what it already is I suppose HAH
Clearly you do not understand that the word of God is spoken in a mystery. I gave you scriptures to prove my points, and your just rambling on and building a whole doctrine on the word "man" and "him" which I already showed you can be speaking of a spirit that works in many.
When you find that "man" called the "little horn" aka "the tail" of the Red Dragon, aka "it" which can cast the host and stars of heaven to the ground, you be sure to let us know alright? LOL (WON'T HOLD BREATH)
Daniel 8:10
And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.
That "man" called "little horn" and "it" sho must have some long legs there D-Con. LOL!!!!
Clearly you do not understand that the word of God is spoken in a mystery. I gave you scriptures to prove my points, and your just rambling on and building a whole doctrine on the word "man" and "him" which I already showed you can be speaking of a spirit that works in many.
When you find that "man" called the "little horn" aka "the tail" of the Red Dragon, aka "it" which can cast the host and stars of heaven to the ground, you be sure to let us know alright? LOL (WON'T HOLD BREATH)
Daniel 8:10
And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.
That "man" called "little horn" and "it" sho must have some long legs there D-Con. LOL!!!!
God inspired EVERY WORD and each word has meaning.....what you just said told me that you really are missing the boat friend.....The word Revelation comes from a Greek word which means to reveal, take the cover off...it is meant to be understood....the use of personal pronouns cannot be rejected in favor of your guesses and supposition...I suggest you pay attention as it means exactly what it states! The beast/little horn is a real individual empowered by SATAN...and HE gets taken with the false prophet and they BOTH get cast alive into the lake of fire.....wake up slice!
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2 Thessalonians 2:8-12 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.”Clearly Paul was speaking of more than one single individual man.
I rehighlighted that trying to follow it through better, I have read it 20 times, I had my husband read it,
that Wicked there is "Even him" shown in a them
How is that not the case?
Im just asking looking at this because I dont follow these sort of conversations because I find them pretty crazy and I cant figure out what anyone is saying half the time because they will adress everything but what you are asking bout. Once in awhile I stick foot in and ask and hope I wont regret it for the 50th time lol
I rehighlighted that trying to follow it through better, I have read it 20 times, I had my husband read it,
that Wicked there is "Even him" shown in a them
How is that not the case?
Im just asking looking at this because I dont follow these sort of conversations because I find them pretty crazy and I cant figure out what anyone is saying half the time because they will adress everything but what you are asking bout. Once in awhile I stick foot in and ask and hope I wont regret it for the 50th time lol
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ANTICHRIST
This word means “against (or instead of) Christ.” It occurs a total of five times, singular and plural, all of them in two of John’s epistles.
The subject was not new among the Christians when John wrote his letters (c. 98 C.E.). First John 2:18 states: “Young children, it is the last hour, and, just as you have heard that antichrist [Gr., an·ti′khri·stos] is coming, even now there have come to be many antichrists; from which fact we gain the knowledge that it is the last hour.” John’s statement shows that there are many individual antichrists, though all together they may form a composite person designated “the antichrist.” (2Jo 7) The use of the expression “hour” as referring to a period of time, either relatively brief or of undetermined length, is exemplified in other writings of John. (See Joh 2:4; 4:21-23; 5:25, 28; 7:30; 8:20; 12:23, 27.) He thus did not restrict the appearance, existence, and activity of such antichrist to some future time only but showed that the antichrist was then present and would continue on.—1Jo 4:3.
This word means “against (or instead of) Christ.” It occurs a total of five times, singular and plural, all of them in two of John’s epistles.
The subject was not new among the Christians when John wrote his letters (c. 98 C.E.). First John 2:18 states: “Young children, it is the last hour, and, just as you have heard that antichrist [Gr., an·ti′khri·stos] is coming, even now there have come to be many antichrists; from which fact we gain the knowledge that it is the last hour.” John’s statement shows that there are many individual antichrists, though all together they may form a composite person designated “the antichrist.” (2Jo 7) The use of the expression “hour” as referring to a period of time, either relatively brief or of undetermined length, is exemplified in other writings of John. (See Joh 2:4; 4:21-23; 5:25, 28; 7:30; 8:20; 12:23, 27.) He thus did not restrict the appearance, existence, and activity of such antichrist to some future time only but showed that the antichrist was then present and would continue on.—1Jo 4:3.
Yes, and you still have the blinders of flesh covering your mind aka (carnally mined). The Lamb of God has a body, which is the Body of Christ, which is the Church made up of many members.
But guess what? The Beast also has a body, just as the Body of Christ is made up of many members.
Daniel 7:11
I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.
The wise will understand. Have a nice night D-Con...BOO RAH! Marine.
That's right, that Wicked works "IN" them, meaning "he" is a spirit working "IN" many. Stick with the scriptures, and not with the fanciful imaginations of carnally minded men.
Yes, and you still have the blinders of flesh covering your mind aka (carnally mined). The Lamb of God has a body, which is the Body of Christ, which is the Church made up of many members.
But guess what? The Beast also has a body, just as the Body of Christ is made up of many members.
Daniel 7:11
I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.
The wise will understand. Have a nice night D-Con...BOO RAH! Marine.
Whatever slice.....! Believe what you will.....
IMO when you put your opinions above Scripture; nothing you say is worth hearing.
A selected translation wont cut it..That's right, that Wicked works "IN" them, meaning "he" is a spirit working "IN" many. Stick with the scriptures, and not with the fanciful imaginations of carnally minded men.
2Th 2:8 8 And then the lawless one (the antichrist) will be revealed and the Lord Jesus will slay him with the breath of His mouth and bring him to an end by His appearing at His coming.AMP
2Th 2:8 And then shall be revealed the lawless one, whom the Lord Jesus shall slay with the breath of his mouth, and bring to nought by the manifestation of his coming; ASV
2Th 2:8 Then the one who embodies separation from Torah will be revealed, the one whom the Lord Yeshua will slay with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the glory of his coming.CJB
2Th 2:8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will kill with the breath of his mouth and bring to nothing by the appearance of his coming. ESV
2Th 2:8 and then the lawless one will be revealed. The Lord Jesus will destroy him with the breath of His mouth and will bring him to nothing with the brightness of His coming.HCSB
2Th 2:8 Then that lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will slay with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming; NASB
Should we go one??
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DesiredHaven
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Showing that 'wicked' is more than an evil force. It is evil incarnate = antichrist.
Just as Jesus was good incarnate.
Will not do any good...he spiritualizes everything, rejects context, words in context, inspired personal pronouns etc......and like most and has the market cornered on the word of God and is not open to learning and instruction!
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He is showing that the Man of Sin is an actual MAN possessed by Satan and not some spiritualistic rigmarole that some are blind to.....You know the ONE who is TAKEN alive with the FALSE PROPHET and cast ALIVE into the lake of fire and personalized by inspired personal pronouns such as HIM and HIS and identified as A MAN......amongst other things!
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What I meant is how did the translations you were quoting there say something other then the other translation? Thats what I was asking because I cant understand what you were showing in contrast except a word change between wicked and lawless right?
Because they are both the same word no?
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No, I was not catching the differences except in words, thats why I pulled up the definition because I have a really hard time understanding problems and differences and why people get so upset and backhanded with it.
11. 42 ἄνομος ου m:a non- Jew who lives completely without reference to the Jewish Law- Gentile, heathen, pagan. τοῖς ἀνόμοις ὡς ἄνομος... ἵνα κερδάνω τοὺς ἀνόμους for the sake of the Gentiles I live like a Gentile... in order to win Gentiles 1CO. 9:21. For another interpretation of ἄνομος in 1CO. 9:21, see 33. 57.
In a number of contexts, it may be best to speak of Gentiles as those who are not Jews. In some languages the equivalent of Gentiles is simply foreigners, but one must be very certain that the use of a term meaning foreigners will actually designate non- Jews rather than those people who do not speak the particular receptor language.
It would be a serious mistake to render ἄνομος as lawless on the basis of its etymology. To speak of a lawless person is to imply that he transgresses existing laws rather than being one who is not subject to the Mosaic Law. Louw &Nida
So Greek studies will take us in circles. Best is to take many translations and contexts and compare.
Whenever these threads come up, I always feel inclined to say.....
I really don't care about a future antichrist.
The only "antichrist" I care about dealing with is the anti-christ spirit that lives in me on a daily basis.
And praise God, He is defeating it in me a little more each day!
I really don't care about a future antichrist.
The only "antichrist" I care about dealing with is the anti-christ spirit that lives in me on a daily basis.
And praise God, He is defeating it in me a little more each day!