The Bible and the LGBTQ+ Pride Month of June

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1 And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing [them] rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground; 2 And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant's house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we will abide in the street all night. 3 And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him, and entered into his house; and he made them a feast, and did bake unleavened bread, and they did eat. 4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, [even] the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter: 5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where [are] the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them. ... 11 And they smote the men that [were] at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves to find the door. ... 24 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven; 25 And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground. skin unlocked
 
I know many have a narrative that Many Christians bash on homosexuality over other sins that are just as sinful.
We come across as unloving and hateful. That is a false narrative. It is the LGBTQ movement which is a cult of sexual perversion today, that is violent, militant, and radicalized. In the 1980's Gays just wanted to be accepted for who they choose to love as an adult. Live and let live. They were teachers, pastors, and many other adult professions that targeted children. They preyed on our kids in school and the list is very long over the past 36 years. The Church could not defend the narrative that was told to us about being intolerant.

and unloving. Saying what the word of God said was dismissed and lambasted by media, news and political parties. In addition the church and others were challenged after the killing of young gay men. The media did many exclusives on it to bring attention to this.

Movements to protect gays and acceptance of this sin was at all time high. HIV took it to the next level. I am saying all this from personal experience in CA my State where i was born and raised. What we are seeing today in CA and many other states and countries is what happens when one takes fire to their side as the Bible says in Proverbs 6:27.

The church was not salt and light. They choose to go political instead of becoming teachers , counselor, school board members to have a presence in education where the church lost a footing. we fought to get prayer back in schools instead of praying with our children and teaching them to pray. We sought to have statues of the Ten Commandments instead of live them. Just like "In God we trust " on our money but live as though the god of government is who we trust.

We have form of godliness but deny the power thereof. 2Tim 3:5-7

Now we have a strong hold in our nation. Guess what the answer is? it is still the word of God , Prayer , and repentance.
The LGBTQ are in broad daylight preying on children. They are protected by schools, churches and the law of the land.

How much longer will a Holy God allow man to thumb if finger in his face before His anger is kindled? How long will he allow those to profane His name and associate the living God with sin and perversion at the expense of His love?

The time is short. And most are not ready for what is coming. There is no other sin that attacks children like the Homosexual agenda. Just because Christians and many mothers and women who have gay children and trans ones too doesn't mean God is accepting their sin. They must repent as we must. There are no gay Christians. We do not identify with sin after we have been saved we separate ourselves unto God and live as the called out ones. IF one wants to stay in their sin to fit in they are not saved.

yes one may struggle with sinful things after being saved but you do not stay in that lifestyle and call it struggling. You must separate and remove yourself from it.
 
I think God thought it was ok to have polygamous relationships too, after all, Jacob married TWO wives and he also had children with his wives maids.

Jesus never married, so, it's unclear whether he was straight, or...not straight. Also same sex couples can now marry.

Every one else just fornicates, that's the default for those who can't afford to marry. Even in the NT, there had to be a special rule for new believers to abstain from fornication, as everyone was as a way of life.
NO!
Don't let the 🏳️‍🌈rainbow mod squad deceive you!

Jesus is God Almighty, the Creator of all life.
He destroyed the cities of the well watered plain of Sodom for their wicked perversions and violence. Nothing but glass remains.
That is Who visited Abram and Sarai accompanied by two angels.
Once they completed their mission, Jesus called down fire and brimstone from Heaven, totally wiping out those civilizations.
The blasphemous lie that Jesus was a sexual deviant was spread by perverts and the demons that possess them. They will all be judged by Him and cast into the lake of fire. Revelation 21:8 KJV
They portray a different Jesus that cannot save. They portray an effeminate sinner who is not the lamb without spot or blemish, who is just a sinner, unqualified to atone for sins. That's their hippy homo fake anti-jesus.

Jesus did not marry for a number of reasons. His mission was far more important than to tend to the needs of a woman. He came to give His life a ransom for all and bring many sons and daughters to His Father by through faith. Ephesians 2:8 KJV

But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. 7For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; 8And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. 9What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
Mark
 
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The Lord God Almighty Father did that, (destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah) Jesus Christ the son did not. Also note, after that Lot got drunk and his daughters had incest with him! ew. Did God destroy their offspring? No, didn't he have mercy on the Moabites? Ruth was a Moabite woman.....

Jesus forgave the sinner, Mary the one caught in adultery. He prevented her from being stoned, by the men who were going to stone her, because they were sinners too.

I am not saying Jesus was gay --of course not - but what is the 'A' in LBQTA stand for? Asexual!!

Jesus was saying many people wouldn't understand why eunuchs didn't marry - but he did!

Also, Phillip helped a eunuch understand the Bible - a passage from Isaiah - he didn't snob him or turn him away.

Yea so anyway, call me names if you want, but I really think y'all need to show a bit of grace in situations. It's not as clearcut as you may think. Besides, 'conversion therapy' is banned in many countries, because of the abuse.
 
The Lord God Almighty Father did that, (destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah) Jesus Christ the son did not. Also note, after that Lot got drunk and his daughters had incest with him! ew. Did God destroy their offspring? No, didn't he have mercy on the Moabites? Ruth was a Moabite woman.....

Jesus forgave the sinner, Mary the one caught in adultery. He prevented her from being stoned, by the men who were going to stone her, because they were sinners too.

I am not saying Jesus was gay --of course not - but what is the 'A' in LBQTA stand for? Asexual!!

Jesus was saying many people wouldn't understand why eunuchs didn't marry - but he did!

Also, Phillip helped a eunuch understand the Bible - a passage from Isaiah - he didn't snob him or turn him away.

Yea so anyway, call me names if you want, but I really think y'all need to show a bit of grace in situations. It's not as clearcut as you may think. Besides, 'conversion therapy' is banned in many countries, because of the abuse.
so twisted
 
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I am not saying Jesus was gay --of course not - but what is the 'A' in LBQTA stand for? Asexual!!

Jesus was saying many people wouldn't understand why eunuchs didn't marry - but he did!

Also, Phillip helped a eunuch understand the Bible - a passage from Isaiah - he didn't snob him or turn him away.

Yea so anyway, call me names if you want, but I really think y'all need to show a bit of grace in situations. It's not as clearcut as you may think. Besides, 'conversion therapy' is banned in many countries, because of the abuse.
Eunuchs and castrated men are not relevant to this issue of The Bible and the LGBTQ+ Pride Month of June.

While opponents of conversion therapy condemn any attempt to free a person from perversion, they certainly feel it is okay to promote the gay agenda and convert heterosexuals to accept or practice homosexuality.

While we should not persecute, mock, or harm homosexuals, the spiritual reality is very clear cut.

Romans 1


21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
 
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I think God thought it was ok to have polygamous relationships too, after all, Jacob married TWO wives and he also had children with his wives maids.

Jesus never married, so, it's unclear whether he was straight, or...not straight. Also same sex couples can now marry.

Every one else just fornicates, that's the default for those who can't afford to marry. Even in the NT, there had to be a special rule for new believers to abstain from fornication, as everyone was as a way of life.
Polygamy was practiced at a time when the population was low and children were essential for the development of society. The modern world has turned away from God in many ways, including God's will for family. "Children are a blessing from the Lord", psalm 37:6. For many, the unborn are no more than parasites and children are a burden rather than a blessing.

Monogamy is recommended in the NT. Paul said that it was one of the qualifications for eldership. You only have to read the family conflicts in polygamous marriages to see why. Rachel and Leah fought. Sarah was treated with contempt by Hagar.

Christians need to shun the morality of the world. Fornication is not about marriage. It's about indulging the natural desire for sex in a way that displeases God and that harms the individual psychologically.

Since God condemns homosexuality as an abomination and honours male/female marriage, Lord Jesus was straight. "Same sex" couples marrying may well be the law of the land, but it is still an abomination to God.
 
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Captain Cook had a wife, but he left her at home. I think he only saw her once every few years or so, and she was left to raise children on her own. Well that's what I read anyway.

Captain Cook had a crew with him, and a cat I think.
That was normal for seafarers. The difference these days is the amount of time spent at sea. It's a lot less than in the days of sail.

I spent 8-1/2 years in the Navy. Most of the married people had a family home and visited the family whenever they could. That even applied to people on shore bases. My father was military and we moved a lot. Australia was my 14th address and fourth country when I came here.

Aussies tend to leave family in one place. It's much easier for education and stability for the kids. And often the home is near the wife's parents. That helps a lot.

Having said that, in my day the divorce rate for Navy people was about 80%.​
 
My point is. The term sodomite comes from the city of Sodom.
From https://www.etymonline.com/
Sodomy (n.)
c. 1300, sodomie, "unnatural sexual relations," such as those customs imputed to the inhabitants of Biblical Sodom, especially between men but also with beasts, from Old French sodomie. Compare Late Latin peccatum Sodomiticum "anal sex," literally "the sin of Sodom," from Latin Sodoma. In Middle English also synne Sodomyke (early 14c.).

sodomite (n.)
late 14c., "one who practices sodomy," also "resident of biblical Sodom," from Old French Sodomite "inhabitant of Sodom; sodomite," also a general term of abuse, or directly from Late Latin Sodomita, from Greek Sodomitēs "inhabitant of Sodom"

From the Unabridged Oxford English Dictionary
Sodomy
C1325-
1.a.
Formerly: any form of sexual intercourse characterized as unnatural or immoral, or otherwise culturally stigmatized. Later: any of a number of forms of sexual intercourse other than heterosexual vaginal intercourse, esp. as legally defined (see note). Now chiefly: anal intercourse, esp. between men; (sometimes more generally) homosexual activity, homosexuality. Cf. buggery n.

The use of the word to refer to homosexual activity or homosexuality in general is now usually regarded as derogatory and offensive.

The definition of sodomy in Criminal Law has varied over time and from one jurisdiction to another. Anal and oral intercourse, sexual activity between men, same-sex sexual activity of any kind, and bestiality have all been included. Less specific definitions identifying sodomy simply as a ‘crime against nature’ have also been used. In the later 20th century the use of the term to denote a specifically criminal act has declined, but it remains in use, particularly in legal contexts, to denote the specific sexual act of penetration of the anus by the penis, esp. as an act of violence.
https://www.oed.com/dictionary/sodomy_n?tab=meaning_and_use#21952429
(I have a paid subscription, so I don't know if the URL works for others.)

It was 1300 years after the last book of the Bible before the church created the word “sodomy” in Latin.

Sodom:

In the OT Hebrew - סְדֹם Cdom

Sodomite:
In the OT Hebrew - קָדֵשׁ qadesh (The Hebrew for Sodom and a sodomite are not related, totally different words)

The KJV “sodomites” renders what is known to be “male temple prostitutes”, which you see hinted at in the KJV margin note.
 
From https://www.etymonline.com/
Sodomy (n.)
c. 1300, sodomie, "unnatural sexual relations," such as those customs imputed to the inhabitants of Biblical Sodom, especially between men but also with beasts, from Old French sodomie. Compare Late Latin peccatum Sodomiticum "anal sex," literally "the sin of Sodom," from Latin Sodoma. In Middle English also synne Sodomyke (early 14c.).

sodomite (n.)
late 14c., "one who practices sodomy," also "resident of biblical Sodom," from Old French Sodomite "inhabitant of Sodom; sodomite," also a general term of abuse, or directly from Late Latin Sodomita, from Greek Sodomitēs "inhabitant of Sodom"

From the Unabridged Oxford English Dictionary
Sodomy
C1325-
1.a.
Formerly: any form of sexual intercourse characterized as unnatural or immoral, or otherwise culturally stigmatized. Later: any of a number of forms of sexual intercourse other than heterosexual vaginal intercourse, esp. as legally defined (see note). Now chiefly: anal intercourse, esp. between men; (sometimes more generally) homosexual activity, homosexuality. Cf. buggery n.

The use of the word to refer to homosexual activity or homosexuality in general is now usually regarded as derogatory and offensive.

The definition of sodomy in Criminal Law has varied over time and from one jurisdiction to another. Anal and oral intercourse, sexual activity between men, same-sex sexual activity of any kind, and bestiality have all been included. Less specific definitions identifying sodomy simply as a ‘crime against nature’ have also been used. In the later 20th century the use of the term to denote a specifically criminal act has declined, but it remains in use, particularly in legal contexts, to denote the specific sexual act of penetration of the anus by the penis, esp. as an act of violence.
https://www.oed.com/dictionary/sodomy_n?tab=meaning_and_use#21952429
(I have a paid subscription, so I don't know if the URL works for others.)

It was 1300 years after the last book of the Bible before the church created the word “sodomy” in Latin.

Sodom:

In the OT Hebrew - סְדֹם Cdom

Sodomite:
In the OT Hebrew - קָדֵשׁ qadesh (The Hebrew for Sodom and a sodomite are not related, totally different words)

The KJV “sodomites” renders what is known to be “male temple prostitutes”, which you see hinted at in the KJV margin note.

If use of the word "sodomy" to refer to homosexual activity is now regarded as "derogatory and offensive", then simply describe the activity by saying "inserting sexual organs into oral and/or excretal organs".
 
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If use of the word "sodomy" to refer to homosexual activity is now regarded as "derogatory and offensive", then simply describe the activity by saying "inserting sexual organs into oral and/or excretal organs".
Everything is offensive now so I just carry on as always and let those offended to rant and pull out their hair.
 
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Homosexuality is the correct term. Christian’s should not use more graphic language.

Ephesians 4:29

Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.
 
Homosexuality is the correct term. Christian’s should not use more graphic language.

Ephesians 4:29

Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.

Yes, but Paul also wrote Rom. 1:18-32 condemning sin, although perhaps not graphically.
What about Gal. 1:6-9? IOW, there is a time to be edifying and a time to be reproving.
 
Yes, but Paul also wrote Rom. 1:18-32 condemning sin, although perhaps not graphically.
What about Gal. 1:6-9? IOW, there is a time to be edifying and a time to be reproving.
Do you have to use graphic language to reprove someone?
 
It is claimed that the KJV translation of 1 Cor. 6:9 & 1 Tim. 1:10 refer to homosexuals. That is a flat out lie! Read what the definitions of the key words were at the time of the 1611 KJV -

From the Oxford English Dictionary, [a historical English Dictionary to see what the KJV meant]

“abuser
4
A person who defiles someone, a violator; a person who injures or mistreats someone; spec. a person who mistreats a woman or child sexually or otherwise, esp. on a regular basis. 1584-

1611

Nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselues with mankine.
Bible (King James Version) 1 Corinthians vi. 9

Defile
4
To violate the chastity of, to deflower; to debauch. Obsolete. A1400-1769

1611

Shechem the son of Hamor..tooke her, and lay with her, and defiled her.
Bible (King James Version) Genesis xxxiv. 2”

It shows specifically that the definitions above are what is seen in the KJV!


From the 1828 Webster’s English Dictionary

“ABU'SER,
n. s as z. One who abuses, in speech or behavior; one that deceives; a ravisher; a sodomite. 1 Cor 6. [Notice, sodomite]

DEFILE, v.t. 5. To corrupt chastity; to debauch; to violate; to tarnish the purity of character by lewdness. [‘defile’ is used in 1 Tim. 1:10]
Schechem defiled Dinah. Gen 34.

As can be seen, the 1828 Webster’s and the massive Oxford English Dictionary agree and the 1828 specifically applies this to "sodomites", and the definitions do NOT match homosexuals of today.
 
It is claimed that the KJV translation of 1 Cor. 6:9 & 1 Tim. 1:10 refer to homosexuals. That is a flat out lie! Read what the definitions of the key words were at the time of the 1611 KJV -

From the Oxford English Dictionary, [a historical English Dictionary to see what the KJV meant]

“abuser
4
A person who defiles someone, a violator; a person who injures or mistreats someone; spec. a person who mistreats a woman or child sexually or otherwise, esp. on a regular basis. 1584-

1611

Nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselues with mankine.
Bible (King James Version) 1 Corinthians vi. 9

Defile
4
To violate the chastity of, to deflower; to debauch. Obsolete. A1400-1769

1611

Shechem the son of Hamor..tooke her, and lay with her, and defiled her.
Bible (King James Version) Genesis xxxiv. 2”

It shows specifically that the definitions above are what is seen in the KJV!


From the 1828 Webster’s English Dictionary

“ABU'SER,
n. s as z. One who abuses, in speech or behavior; one that deceives; a ravisher; a sodomite. 1 Cor 6. [Notice, sodomite]

DEFILE, v.t. 5. To corrupt chastity; to debauch; to violate; to tarnish the purity of character by lewdness. [‘defile’ is used in 1 Tim. 1:10]
Schechem defiled Dinah. Gen 34.

As can be seen, the 1828 Webster’s and the massive Oxford English Dictionary agree and the 1828 specifically applies this to "sodomites", and the definitions do NOT match homosexuals of today.
How do these verses fit in with today’s definitions of homosexuals?

[Gen 19:5 KJV] 5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where [are] the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.
[Lev 18:22 KJV] 22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination.
[Lev 20:13 KJV] 13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them.
[Rom 1:26-27 KJV] 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
 
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