The Catholics and my conclusion
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Of course they would not. A catholic does not even think one can know they are saved until they get to heaven, so how could they (of their own doctrinal teaching) judge anyone elses salvation when they teach no one can know they are saved.This line of reasoning is prety sad..
As for judging calvins doctrines, Happens all the time in here, Maybe you are selectively seeing what you want to see so you miss that fact?
Actually it was taught by Paul peter and all the apostles. They places scripture as their guide, their proof, and their master (since scripture they saw as the living word of God thus God himself)
it was not until rome had to get away from scripture because scripture did not support their man made doctrines that sola scriptura even became a topic of debate.
Jesus commissioned people to teach is word He did not commision some church which rejects his word as sole authority.
Paul even said he had more respect for someone who tested what he taught by the word of God then people who just took him blindly. He tells us the word is able to make us complete. not men.
But who was Ignatius, He was bishop of a city church, not of a see. That is how you cheat by reading in what is not there. He was certainly NOT a member of the Roman Catholic church. Antioch was separate from Rome, so he was not even a member of the Roman church. The Roman Catholic church would not exist for another seven hundred years when it seceded from 'the Catholic (universal) church'.
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There was no see. It was a city church. Every city had its one church. He was thus the chief overseer (not bishop as we know of them) of the Antiochene church. Peter did not found a see. He established a church.,
So he acknowledged that the church he was referring to was NOT the Roman Catholic church. It was the universal church made up of Celtic church, Eastern Orthodox, Baptist, and many other Orthodox and Catholic churches not connected to Rome. Indeed when he wrote to Rome he knew that Rome had no single bishop, so addressed the church as a whole.
In which there were no archbishops, no priests, and so on. each church had overseers, deacons and elders. No one church exerted authority over others.
the overseer/pastor of each church.
the elders (NOT priest) who were over all church arrangements in individual churches.
the servants who ministered in each individual church. These bore no relationship to modern deacons.
You lie. He was NOT on your church. If anything he was primitive eastern orthodox (although they did not yet exist). Yours is the dishonesty which shows even the milder form of the Roman Catholic church to be full of deceit.
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Good Morning Epostle,
Baptism has to do with identifying ourselves with Christ's death, burial and resurrection. Going down into the water is symbolic for dying with Christ and the old nature and coming up the new man in Christ. Therefore, infant baptism would not be practical or beneficial for an infant and that because they would not be aware of what is being done to them and they would not have lived in order to experience the sinful nature to know what they dying to. The only reason that the RCC baptizes infants is because of their belief that baptism cleanses one of sin, which is false. For without the individuals receiving of Christ as personal Lord and Savior, baptism alone means nothing and a infant isn't even aware that he/she even exists, much less have an understanding of the sinful nature. Regarding the spiritual state of infants, scripture states the following:
"For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy."
The reason for sola scriptura, that is, the Bible being the supreme authority in all matters of doctrine and practice, is because one, it is the word of God which he gave us and two, without scripture there is no way to verify whether or not what anyone is teaching as being the truth, which means that you would just have to take their word for it. A good example of this, is when Paul said that the Bereans Jews were more of noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true. The word of God is necessary for us to know what is the truth and what is false.
"All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work."
The servant of God is everyone who belongs to him both men and women. The Church was never meant to have one leader over it. In fact regarding this Jesus said the following:
"But Jesus called them together and said, “You know that the rulers in this world lord it over their people, and officials flaunt their authority over those under them. But among you it will be different. Whoever wants to be a leader among you must be your servant, and whoever wants to be first among you must become your servant."
Roman Catholicism is a hierarchy of priests, cardinals, bishops and pope's, exactly the opposite of what Jesus states above.
Again, this why the word of God is the sole authority of all that is the truth, which is how the true believer can determine whether the RCC or any system of belief is of God. The true believer doesn't need to pay attention to what anyone in the 18th or any century said, because we can compare the teachings of the RCC with those of Scripture and it immediately becomes evident that the RCC doesn't measure up with Scripture on many levels.
Many people interpret “cross” as some burden they must carry in their lives: a strained relationship, a thankless job, a physical illness. With self-pitying pride, they say, “That’s my cross I have to carry.” Such an interpretation is not what Jesus meant when He said, “Take up your cross and follow Me.”
"Take up your cross and follow Me” means being willing to die in order to follow Jesus. This is called “dying to self.” It’s a call to absolute surrender." As believer's we need to always be prepared to go through persecution and even death keeping the testimony of Jesus and the word of God.
Neither crucifixes, St. Christopher medals, rosary beads, miter hats, smoke of God, holy water, etc., are not required for salvation and are in fact just religious relics and artifacts created by the tradition of men.
Come out of her my people so that you will not partake of her plagues. For her sins are piled up to heaven and God has remembered her crimes.
Baptism has to do with identifying ourselves with Christ's death, burial and resurrection. Going down into the water is symbolic for dying with Christ and the old nature and coming up the new man in Christ. Therefore, infant baptism would not be practical or beneficial for an infant and that because they would not be aware of what is being done to them and they would not have lived in order to experience the sinful nature to know what they dying to. The only reason that the RCC baptizes infants is because of their belief that baptism cleanses one of sin, which is false. For without the individuals receiving of Christ as personal Lord and Savior, baptism alone means nothing and a infant isn't even aware that he/she even exists, much less have an understanding of the sinful nature. Regarding the spiritual state of infants, scripture states the following:
"For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy."
The reason for sola scriptura, that is, the Bible being the supreme authority in all matters of doctrine and practice, is because one, it is the word of God which he gave us and two, without scripture there is no way to verify whether or not what anyone is teaching as being the truth, which means that you would just have to take their word for it. A good example of this, is when Paul said that the Bereans Jews were more of noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true. The word of God is necessary for us to know what is the truth and what is false.
"All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work."
The servant of God is everyone who belongs to him both men and women. The Church was never meant to have one leader over it. In fact regarding this Jesus said the following:
"But Jesus called them together and said, “You know that the rulers in this world lord it over their people, and officials flaunt their authority over those under them. But among you it will be different. Whoever wants to be a leader among you must be your servant, and whoever wants to be first among you must become your servant."
Roman Catholicism is a hierarchy of priests, cardinals, bishops and pope's, exactly the opposite of what Jesus states above.
Again, this why the word of God is the sole authority of all that is the truth, which is how the true believer can determine whether the RCC or any system of belief is of God. The true believer doesn't need to pay attention to what anyone in the 18th or any century said, because we can compare the teachings of the RCC with those of Scripture and it immediately becomes evident that the RCC doesn't measure up with Scripture on many levels.
Many people interpret “cross” as some burden they must carry in their lives: a strained relationship, a thankless job, a physical illness. With self-pitying pride, they say, “That’s my cross I have to carry.” Such an interpretation is not what Jesus meant when He said, “Take up your cross and follow Me.”
"Take up your cross and follow Me” means being willing to die in order to follow Jesus. This is called “dying to self.” It’s a call to absolute surrender." As believer's we need to always be prepared to go through persecution and even death keeping the testimony of Jesus and the word of God.
Neither crucifixes, St. Christopher medals, rosary beads, miter hats, smoke of God, holy water, etc., are not required for salvation and are in fact just religious relics and artifacts created by the tradition of men.
Come out of her my people so that you will not partake of her plagues. For her sins are piled up to heaven and God has remembered her crimes.
Also, to Blain, dont take this the wrong way at all. I really like you, I think its awesome that you want to get closer to God, and I totally thought it was not in any way a bad thing to learn more about the catholic faith. But when you talked about how we should be more loving to them, that we can be too mean to them, I kinda hope that the behavior of the catholics here taught you something 
This is what debating the word of God is, its 100% serious, and not to be taken lightly, or treated like a playful "lets agree to disagree" opinion like youd have with your friends about your favorite tv show or video game Its everything that matters, the entire truth of the world around you, and you should always stand up when you know someone is adding things into it that are not from God.
The catholics here are on fire, too. Im 100% sure they dont hate us, but love us, and really do believe their church is true. We should always want to bring them the word of God, and love is absolutely a part of it, but there are times for debating too. Its the way the world is, its not hate, we still love them. But the truth is the truth, and we should always stand by it. If not, we let ourselves be lead away into the hands of the wolves.
Anywho, Im way happy to hear that you see whats in the word of God, too. I kinda did the same thing you did with islam. I had talked to some muslims before I came to Christ, so I did deal with some false teachings about how Christ was just another prophet that I didnt know how to understand when coming to Him. So I had to learn His word on that too. I didnt just trust the word of mohammad on this, I also had to see what Christ said Himself, and the life He lead. And through that, I found that the quran actually literally stands against EVERYTHING muhammad said Like, he is almost the opposite of everything Christ was And now through that, my faith has become stronger, and I feel I better understand Him.
I didnt want you to judge the catholic faith on the people, and what they say, but what God says, and THEN take what they say and compare it to their words. Everything needs to be judged on Christs teachings. Now that you have found Christ, you can also try to help those who are seeking Him in the catholic church find Him in His word, and not from their church :3
This is what debating the word of God is, its 100% serious, and not to be taken lightly, or treated like a playful "lets agree to disagree" opinion like youd have with your friends about your favorite tv show or video game Its everything that matters, the entire truth of the world around you, and you should always stand up when you know someone is adding things into it that are not from God.The catholics here are on fire, too. Im 100% sure they dont hate us, but love us, and really do believe their church is true. We should always want to bring them the word of God, and love is absolutely a part of it, but there are times for debating too. Its the way the world is, its not hate, we still love them. But the truth is the truth, and we should always stand by it. If not, we let ourselves be lead away into the hands of the wolves.
Anywho, Im way happy to hear that you see whats in the word of God, too. I kinda did the same thing you did with islam. I had talked to some muslims before I came to Christ, so I did deal with some false teachings about how Christ was just another prophet that I didnt know how to understand when coming to Him. So I had to learn His word on that too. I didnt just trust the word of mohammad on this, I also had to see what Christ said Himself, and the life He lead. And through that, I found that the quran actually literally stands against EVERYTHING muhammad said
Like, he is almost the opposite of everything Christ was And now through that, my faith has become stronger, and I feel I better understand Him.I didnt want you to judge the catholic faith on the people, and what they say, but what God says, and THEN take what they say and compare it to their words. Everything needs to be judged on Christs teachings. Now that you have found Christ, you can also try to help those who are seeking Him in the catholic church find Him in His word, and not from their church :3
*That probly sounded like Im trying to teach you something, as if Im more knowing than you : p I didnt mean it like that : p I meant with this one issue, haha : p
Im just coming to Christ in truth from just last year, Im not trying to be an expert here : p Ive dealt with dealing with the religions of the earth and their battle against the Christians a little bit, and have learned from my experience that we really need to use His word before judging, and I was just worried about you not doing that already.
Dont take my posts the wrong way.
Im just coming to Christ in truth from just last year, Im not trying to be an expert here : p Ive dealt with dealing with the religions of the earth and their battle against the Christians a little bit, and have learned from my experience that we really need to use His word before judging, and I was just worried about you not doing that already.
Dont take my posts the wrong way.
All of the Churches were under the jurisdiction of the successors of Peter. There is plenty of historical evidence to prove this. The "individual church theory" has never held up to scrutiny. The Catholic Church cannot succeed from herself, that is absurd.
Ignatius of Antioch was a student of John the Apostle and 3rd bishop of Jerusalem.
Please ditch the word "Roman" as a prefix. It was first used as an insult by the Anglicans in the 16th century. The "Celtic" church was established in Ireland several centuries later. Let's examine a few more quotes from Ignatius of Antioch and see if they line up with what you say:
"See that ye all follow the bishop, even as Christ Jesus does the Father, and the presbytery as ye would the apostles. Do ye also reverence the deacons, as those that carry out the appointment of God. Let no man do anything connected with the Church without the bishop. Let that be deemed a proper Eucharist, which is [administered] either by the bishop, or by one to whom he has entrusted it. Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude also be; by the bishop, or by one to whom he has entrusted it. Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude also be; even as, wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church."
Ignatius of Antioch, Epistle to the Smyrneans, 8:2 (c. A.D. 110).
Theodoret mentions Ignatius
"So have I learnt not only from the apostles and prophets but also from the interpreters of their writings, Ignatius, Eustathius, Athanasius, Basil, Gregory, John, and the rest of the lights of the world; and before these from the holy Fathers in council at Nicea, whose confession of the faith I preserve in its integrity, like an ancestral inheritance, styling corrupt and enemies of the truth all who dare to transgress its decrees."
Theodoret of Cyrus, To Florentius, Epistle 89 (A.D. 449).
“It is better to be silent and be real than to talk and not be real.”
(Letter to the Ephesians15.1)
“It is right, therefore, that we not just be called Christians, but that we actually be Christians.”
(Letter to the Magnesians 4.1)
“Christianity is greatest when it is hated by the world.”
(Letter to the Romans 3.3.)
“Flee from wicked practices; better yet, preach a sermon about them.” (Letter to Polycarp5.1)
You must all follow the lead of the bishop, as Jesus Christ followed that of the Father; follow the presbytery as you would the Apostles; reverence the deacons as you would God's commandment. Ignatius of Antioch
May nothing entice me till I happily make my way to Jesus Christ! Fire, cross, struggles with wild beasts, wrenching of bones, mangling of limbs - let them come to me, provided only I make my way to Jesus Christ.
Ignatius of Antioch
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Maybe its because you fail to see the difference between ecclesiastical jurisdiction and exerted authority. Dominating dictatorship is a funnymentalist myth.
An elder is the same as priest. In fact, the term “priest” is simply a shortened, English version of the Greek word for “elder” - presbuteros - as any dictionary will confirm. This is any some Old Catholic translations render the word as “priests” where Protestant Bibles have “elder.” Office of the New Testament Priesthood
St. Ignatius of Antioch was in a orthodox church that didn't yet exist? I wouldn't call you deceitful, but the statement is rather stupid.
Most of us True Christians on this site are missing the point with the Catholics and i'm also guilty of missing this very important point.
God positively decrees the election of some and negatively decrees the reprorbation of others. The positive side refers to God's active intervention in the lives of the elect to work Faith in their hearts. The negative refers to His passing them by and withholding His regenerating Grace from them.
If we are not really ashamed of the Gospel, we must acknowledge what is declared that God by His eternal goodwill appointed those whom He pleased unto Salvation,rejecting all the rest. Those whom He blessed with the free adoption to be His sons He illumines by the Holy Spirit, that they may receive the life which is offered to them in Christ. While others, continuing of their own free will in unbelief, are left destitute of the Light of Faith, in total darkness.
Therefore are we going against the will of the Father when we insist others,the Catholics, must accept Salvation from God? They may very well have been predestined not to accept God like us True Christians were.
2 Peter 2:4-10
[SUP]4 [/SUP] For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to chains of gloomy darkness to be kept until the judgment;
[SUP]5 [/SUP] if he did not spare the ancient world, but preserved Noah, a herald of righteousness, with seven others, when he brought a flood upon the world of the ungodly;
[SUP]6 [/SUP] if by turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to ashes he condemned them to extinction, making them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
[SUP]7 [/SUP] and if he rescued righteous Lot, greatly distressed by the sensual conduct of the wicked
[SUP]8 [/SUP] (for as that righteous man lived among them day after day, he was tormenting his righteous soul over their lawless deeds that he saw and heard);
[SUP]9 [/SUP] then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials, and to keep the unrighteous under punishment until the day of judgment,
[SUP]10 [/SUP] and especially those who indulge in the lust of defiling passion and despise authority. Bold and willful, they do not tremble as they blaspheme the glorious ones
Romans 8:29-30
[SUP]29 [/SUP] For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers.
[SUP]30 [/SUP] And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.
God positively decrees the election of some and negatively decrees the reprorbation of others. The positive side refers to God's active intervention in the lives of the elect to work Faith in their hearts. The negative refers to His passing them by and withholding His regenerating Grace from them.
If we are not really ashamed of the Gospel, we must acknowledge what is declared that God by His eternal goodwill appointed those whom He pleased unto Salvation,rejecting all the rest. Those whom He blessed with the free adoption to be His sons He illumines by the Holy Spirit, that they may receive the life which is offered to them in Christ. While others, continuing of their own free will in unbelief, are left destitute of the Light of Faith, in total darkness.
Therefore are we going against the will of the Father when we insist others,the Catholics, must accept Salvation from God? They may very well have been predestined not to accept God like us True Christians were.
2 Peter 2:4-10
[SUP]4 [/SUP] For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to chains of gloomy darkness to be kept until the judgment;
[SUP]5 [/SUP] if he did not spare the ancient world, but preserved Noah, a herald of righteousness, with seven others, when he brought a flood upon the world of the ungodly;
[SUP]6 [/SUP] if by turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to ashes he condemned them to extinction, making them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
[SUP]7 [/SUP] and if he rescued righteous Lot, greatly distressed by the sensual conduct of the wicked
[SUP]8 [/SUP] (for as that righteous man lived among them day after day, he was tormenting his righteous soul over their lawless deeds that he saw and heard);
[SUP]9 [/SUP] then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials, and to keep the unrighteous under punishment until the day of judgment,
[SUP]10 [/SUP] and especially those who indulge in the lust of defiling passion and despise authority. Bold and willful, they do not tremble as they blaspheme the glorious ones
Romans 8:29-30
[SUP]29 [/SUP] For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers.
[SUP]30 [/SUP] And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.
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CATHOLIC - WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
CATHOLIC comes from the Greek word Katholikos, which was later Latinized into Catholicus.
It means 'Universal', which in itself means, 'of or relating to, or affecting the entire world and ALL peoples therein'. It means, ALL encompassing, comprehensibly broad, general, and containing ALL that is necessary. In summation, it means ALL people in ALL places, having ALL that is necessary, and for ALL time.
It is inferred in Matthew 28:19-20, "Go, therefore and make disciples of ALL nations...teaching them to observe ALL that I have commanded you; And behold, I am with you ALL days, even unto the consummation of the world." That is a statement of Universality, Katholicos, Catholicus, Catholic.
Rom. 1:8 ….and you belong to that Church whose faith St. Paul describes as being "proclaimed (KATanggeletai) in the whole universe (en HOLO to kosmo)”
Thus the word KATAHOLOS or Catholic in English originated from Scriptures - Romans 1:8
"Where the Bishop appears, there let the people be, just as where Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church."
St. Ignatius of Antioch's letter to the Smyrneans, paragraph 8, of 106 A.D.,
Undoubtedly the word was in use before the time of this writing. What about Constantine? He wouldn't be born for another 250 years.
Written records of the term "CATHOLIC" describing a character of the Christian Church:
Ignatius, Letter to the Smyrneans 106AD;
Martyrdom of St. Polycarp 155AD;
Clement of Alexandria, Stromateis 202AD;
Cyprian, Unity of the Catholic Church 251AD;
Cyprian, Letter to Florentius, 254AD
"Christian is my name, and Catholic my surname. The one designates me, while the other makes me specific. Thus am I attested and set apart... When we are called Catholics it is by this appellation that our people are kept apart from any heretical name."
Saint Pacian of Barcelona, Letter to Sympronian, 375 A.D.
This is primary source documentation, not somebody's opinions.
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Non of that makes a catholic in the sense of the roman church a chid of God
Non of that makes a catholic, in the roman sense, the true church of God.
Calling a church catholic no more makes it the universal church of god than some church calling itself the church of Christ makes it a true church of Christ.
it is what is being taught and what a person places their faith in (actually WHO a person places their faith in ) that makes an assembly of believers a true church. Not what the name is.
Pius IX, Ineffabilis Deus (1854).
It was in 1854 when the Catholic Church created the Doctrine that Mary was born without sin. Before 1854 they was no official Doctrine that Mary was without sin.
I find it amazing that it took the Catholics over 1800 years to suddenly realize that Mary was without sin!
1854 marks the date when the Catholics walked away from God to follow and Worship Mary as their God.
It was in 1854 when the Catholic Church created the Doctrine that Mary was born without sin. Before 1854 they was no official Doctrine that Mary was without sin.
I find it amazing that it took the Catholics over 1800 years to suddenly realize that Mary was without sin!
1854 marks the date when the Catholics walked away from God to follow and Worship Mary as their God.
Of course the Roman Catholic church is in denial of the truth...message truncated...
Bartholomew F. Brewer
Hugh Farrell.
Charles Berry.
Bob Bush.
"There two types of works. Not by works of the law (Paul) but good works (James) which is inseparable. Works is the same as love. You cannot separate love from faith. Some of you probably do this instinctively when you perform any act of mercy. (they are listed). No Christian should do good for a reward, we do good because we love our (sometimes annoying) neighbor. How is that possible? By the grace of Christ. When you look at it that way, it's what we all aspire to. This constant drum-beat of "works righteousness" is ridiculous. And contrary to several encyclicals since the first "works righteousness" heretic, Pelagius, was renounced by the Church in the six century. Yet the myth prevails.
mailmandan, since you posted a short list of priests who left the priesthood, I see no reason why I can't post some going the other way.
The Scott Hahn Conversion Story
Here following is the transcript of a talk given by Scott Hahn outlining his journey of faith, a journey that took him from being a fervent Presbyterian minister and Professor of Theology at a major Protestant seminary to become a Roman Catholic Theologian and internationally known apologist for the Catholic Church. Through study and prayer Scott Hahn came to realize that the truth of the Catholic Church is firmly rooted in Scripture.
read more here
video format https://www.youtube....h?v=XyFuaXlYo8Q
Francis Beckwith was president of the Evangelical Theological Society, an association of 4,300 Protestant theologians. Now he has returned to the Church of his baptism.
Read more here:
Ulf was a restless secular teenager. He turned his life to Christ from the witness of a friend. Birgitta was born in India to Methodist missionary parents. Ulf and Birgitta met at university, while Ulf was studying for ministry in the Lutheran Church. After they were married they were both active in the Charismatic renewal. From this they founded the Word of Life Bible School out of which grew a megachurch. As their ministry grew, they began to encounter Catholics. They began to ask, “What is the essence of the Church?” After living in Israel for three years, the witness of Catholic began a journey for them that would lead them Home to the Catholic Church.
read more here (accompanying video)
Pastor and Flock Convert to CatholicismWhen Pentecostal minister Alex Jones came into the Church this past Easter he was not alone. He brought much of his congregation in with him. read more here
Dr. Robert Koons
A life-long, active Missouri-Synod Lutheran, Dr. Robert Koons made the shocking announcement in 2006 that he was planning on entering the Catholic Church.
"I teach metaphysics, philosophy of religion, philosophical logic, and ancient and medieval philosophy at the University of Texas. I've been at UT for 24 years, after having studied philosophy at Michigan State, Oxford and UCLA. I have authored two books, Paradoxes of Belief and Strategic Rationality (Cambridge Univ., 1997) and Realism Regained (Oxford Univ., 2000), and co-edited a third, The Waning of Materialism (OUP, 2010, with George Bealer). Tim Pickavance and I are at work on a textbook in Metaphysics for Blackwell/Wiley. I serve on the Executive Committee of the Society of Christian Philosophers, and I'm a senior fellow with the Discovery Institute's Center for Science & Culture and the Witherspoon Institute, and I'm a member of the Academic Council of the Jack Miller Center for Teaching America's Founding Principles and History. I'm the president of the Texas Association of Scholars, the statewide affiliate of the NAS, and Senator of the Phi Beta Kappa Society."
Dr. Robert Koons - Deep in Scripture 06/30/2010 - The Coming Home Network
Bartholomew F. Brewer
Hugh Farrell.
Charles Berry.
Bob Bush.
As you can see, even Roman Catholic Priests can discover the truth found in God's Word and escape the error of the Roman Catholic system of works' righteousness and so can you. To God be the glory.
"For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 not as a result of works, so that no one can boast (Ephesians 2:8-9).
"For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 not as a result of works, so that no one can boast (Ephesians 2:8-9).
mailmandan, since you posted a short list of priests who left the priesthood, I see no reason why I can't post some going the other way.
The Scott Hahn Conversion Story
Here following is the transcript of a talk given by Scott Hahn outlining his journey of faith, a journey that took him from being a fervent Presbyterian minister and Professor of Theology at a major Protestant seminary to become a Roman Catholic Theologian and internationally known apologist for the Catholic Church. Through study and prayer Scott Hahn came to realize that the truth of the Catholic Church is firmly rooted in Scripture.
read more here
video format https://www.youtube....h?v=XyFuaXlYo8Q
Francis Beckwith was president of the Evangelical Theological Society, an association of 4,300 Protestant theologians. Now he has returned to the Church of his baptism.
Read more here:
Ulf was a restless secular teenager. He turned his life to Christ from the witness of a friend. Birgitta was born in India to Methodist missionary parents. Ulf and Birgitta met at university, while Ulf was studying for ministry in the Lutheran Church. After they were married they were both active in the Charismatic renewal. From this they founded the Word of Life Bible School out of which grew a megachurch. As their ministry grew, they began to encounter Catholics. They began to ask, “What is the essence of the Church?” After living in Israel for three years, the witness of Catholic began a journey for them that would lead them Home to the Catholic Church.
read more here (accompanying video)
Pastor and Flock Convert to CatholicismWhen Pentecostal minister Alex Jones came into the Church this past Easter he was not alone. He brought much of his congregation in with him. read more here
Dr. Robert Koons
A life-long, active Missouri-Synod Lutheran, Dr. Robert Koons made the shocking announcement in 2006 that he was planning on entering the Catholic Church.
"I teach metaphysics, philosophy of religion, philosophical logic, and ancient and medieval philosophy at the University of Texas. I've been at UT for 24 years, after having studied philosophy at Michigan State, Oxford and UCLA. I have authored two books, Paradoxes of Belief and Strategic Rationality (Cambridge Univ., 1997) and Realism Regained (Oxford Univ., 2000), and co-edited a third, The Waning of Materialism (OUP, 2010, with George Bealer). Tim Pickavance and I are at work on a textbook in Metaphysics for Blackwell/Wiley. I serve on the Executive Committee of the Society of Christian Philosophers, and I'm a senior fellow with the Discovery Institute's Center for Science & Culture and the Witherspoon Institute, and I'm a member of the Academic Council of the Jack Miller Center for Teaching America's Founding Principles and History. I'm the president of the Texas Association of Scholars, the statewide affiliate of the NAS, and Senator of the Phi Beta Kappa Society."
Dr. Robert Koons - Deep in Scripture 06/30/2010 - The Coming Home Network