The Church, and Israel and the Last Days.

[Revelation1v8]

So you are saying that 50% are taken to judgement?
50% of what group?
Taken before the flood? Taken pretrib?

What is it with you and your 50%? Those verses are only showing that unbelievers are plucked up for judgement and others are left to remain. This is why I'm showing everyone that Jesus' Millennial Kingdom period is on earth and not in Heaven because Revelation 20 tells us that the Great White Throne Judgement doesn't happen until AFTER Jesus 1,000 year reign of peace here on earth.

If you want to compare Matthew 24 to something, compare it to Zechariah 13:8-9 when Jesus returns to cut off 2/3 from the land He promised to Abraham and leave 1/3 of them to remain in the land.

 

[Psalm1]

You are forcing the text to say what you want to hear and avoiding the contextual clues. You need to suspend your suppositions and your paradigm in order to listen to what John wants to teach you.

Your response came too quickly, which suggests you didn't take the time to examine what I said.

Revelation 7:3 Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees until we have sealed the bond-servants of our God on their foreheads.”

What information can we glean from that verse? The place where the protection event takes place is ON THE EARTH. Angels will be sent out to harm the earth, the sea, and the trees. The 114k are sealed so that no harm will come to them.

Revelation 7:9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, and palm branches were in their hands;

Notice that the location has changed from the earth, where the wind is blowing, to the throne, which, according to Chapter 4, is in heaven. Verse 3 talks about the tribes of Israel; verse 9 talks about people from every nation. They are wearing white robes, which symbolize their purification. They wave palm branches, celebrating the arrival of the One who brings salvation.

The first group is on the earth; they have not yet been delivered; they are the tribes of Israel. The second group is standing before the throne, already saved, and celebrating the one who saved them.

Exactly.
A no brainer.

I would add that the ones in heaven, the innumerable number, actually have on dirty robes, that had to be washed in the blood.

( those 50% left behind from the pretrib rapture)
It even says they are martyred. Billions martyred by the AC, during the trib.

 

[Psalm1]

What is it with you and your 50%? Those verses are only showing that unbelievers are plucked up for judgement and others are left to remain. This is why I'm showing everyone that Jesus' Millennial Kingdom period is on earth and not in Heaven because Revelation 20 tells us that the Great White Throne Judgement doesn't happen until AFTER Jesus 1,000 year reign of peace here on earth.

If you want to compare Matthew 24 to something, compare it to Zechariah 13:8-9 when Jesus returns to cut off 2/3 from the land He promised to Abraham and leave 1/3 of them to remain in the land.

No you labeled them unbelievers.
what is wrong with you?

IT SAYS THEY ARE TAKEN "BEFORE THE FLOOD."...AHEM, PRETRIB
IT SAYS ..CUE DRUM ROLL..."ONE TAKEN, ONE LEFT".
HELLO....ABOUT 6 TIMES.

( the bizarre, postribber, made up, "wicked man rapture if half the planet" pretrib.)

 

[Psalm1]

What is it with you and your 50%? Those verses are only showing that unbelievers are plucked up for judgement and others are left to remain. This is why I'm showing everyone that Jesus' Millennial Kingdom period is on earth and not in Heaven because Revelation 20 tells us that the Great White Throne Judgement doesn't happen until AFTER Jesus 1,000 year reign of peace here on earth.

If you want to compare Matthew 24 to something, compare it to Zechariah 13:8-9 when Jesus returns to cut off 2/3 from the land He promised to Abraham and leave 1/3 of them to remain in the land.

Don't omit the setting and timing, of the ones taken, or the fact half are left behind.
Why do that?

 

[Revelation1v8]

No you labeled them unbelievers.
what is wrong with you?

IT SAYS THEY ARE TAKEN "BEFORE THE FLOOD."...AHEM, PRETRIB
IT SAYS ..CUE DRUM ROLL..."ONE TAKEN, ONE LEFT".
HELLO....ABOUT 6 TIMES.

( the bizarre, postribber, made up, "wicked man rapture if half the planet" pretrib.)

You're going to have to show me the Bible verses you are speaking about because you're not making any sense to me. Matthew 24 isn't talking about a flood or before the flood. It only says that people (like the one in the field and the one in bed) will be doing what they always do (like those in the days of Noah), but not watching for Jesus' return. Because they aren't watching and paying attention, they will be taken away unsuspectingly.

 

[Psalm1]

People have been deceived for so long, that the ones taken in Matthew 24 are some bizarre wicked rapture of half the planet, before the flood,( pretribbers made up, wicked man rapture, of half the planet), that they can not be pried lose from that made up fairy tale.

 

[Revelation1v8]

Don't omit the setting and timing, of the ones taken, or the fact half are left behind.
Why do that?

You're the one creating a setting that isn't there. Matthew 24 isn't talking about a rapture. It's most likely talking about the Great Tribulation period right before the Second Coming of Jesus when He will cut off 2/3 of the people living in the land and preserve 1/3 of them to remain in the land for His Millennial Kingdom reign. If you believe in a pre-trib rapture, then you don't have anything to worry about because you'll be returning with Jesus to reign with Him in the land.

 

[Psalm1]

You're going to have to show me the Bible verses you are speaking about because you're not making any sense to me. Matthew 24 isn't talking about a flood or before the flood. It only says that people (like the one in the field and the one in bed) will be doing what they always do (like those in the days of Noah), but not watching for Jesus' return. Because they aren't watching and paying attention, they will be taken away unsuspectingly.

The flood has always been representative of the trib.
Nothing new.
Show you what?
What is written is beyond plain.
Matthew 24...again...
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

Stop omitting timing, setting, and percentage taken.

Beyond plain.

 

[Revelation1v8]

People have been deceived for so long, that the ones taken in Matthew 24 are some bizarre wicked rapture of half the planet, before the flood,( pretribbers made up, wicked man rapture, of half the planet), that they can not be pried lose from that made up fairy tale.

Which one are you? Because your posts are not coherent to me and I can't understand when you speak in two word sentences or descriptions. I'm assuming you're pre-trib rapture, like I just mentioned in my previous post?

 

[Psalm1]

You're the one creating a setting that isn't there. Matthew 24 isn't talking about a rapture. It's most likely talking about the Great Tribulation period right before the Second Coming of Jesus when He will cut off 2/3 of the people living in the land and preserve 1/3 of them to remain in the land for His Millennial Kingdom reign. If you believe in a pre-trib rapture, then you don't have anything to worry about because you'll be returning with Jesus to reign with Him in the land.

It's most likely???

Not at all.
The SETTING is pretrib.... PREFLOOD
You are reframing that for some reason.

It is plain as day what it is.

...and you will not read for comprehension.

 

[Revelation1v8]

The flood has always been representative of the trib.
Nothing new.
Show you what?
What is written is beyond plain.
Matthew 24...again...
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

Stop omitting timing, setting, and percentage taken.

Beyond plain.

There's nothing plain about what you just said because I can tell for the 4th time that you don't understand who the Bible is talking about in verse 39. The people in verse 38 are the ones who didn't know the flood was coming and got swept away in verse 39, not Noah.

 

[Psalm1]

Which one are you? Because your posts are not coherent to me and I can't understand when you speak in two word sentences or descriptions. I'm assuming you're pre-trib rapture, like I just mentioned in my previous post?

Yeah.just pretend, "before the flood", is not pretribulation
Pretend the timing is something else.
Pretend "one taken and one left" is not 50 % of a group taken.
Then make the setting something other than pretrib.

You will be fine.

 

[Revelation1v8]

It's most likely???

Not at all.
The SETTING is pretrib.... PREFLOOD
You are reframing that for some reason.

It is plain as day what it is.

...and you will not read for comprehension.

You do realize that Matthew 24:38 is only referring BACK to the flood as a reference to show what people will be like AGAIN when Jesus returns right? It's using the flood as a reference to describe what people will be like and what they will be doing. It's not a reference to describe another flood or another wiping out of the entire population besides one family like Noah's.

I'm asking a sincere question here. Is English your first language?

 

[Psalm1]

There's nothing plain about what you just said because I can tell for the 4th time that you don't understand who the Bible is talking about in verse 39. The people in verse 38 are the ones who didn't know the flood was coming and got swept away in verse 39, not Noah.

So there ya go.
(A pretrib wicked man rapture , of half the planet, before the flood,)

And you promote it.

 

[Psalm1]

You do realize that Matthew 24:38 is only referring BACK to the flood as a reference to show what people will be like AGAIN when Jesus returns right? It's using the flood as a reference to describe what people will be like and what they will be doing. It's not a reference to describe another flood or another wiping out of the entire population besides one family like Noah's.

I'm asking a sincere question here. Is English your first language?

I am not the one that can not understand that "before",means before.
Is English your first language , or does your game playing and insults promote your deal somehow?

 

[Psalm1]

""I'm asking a sincere question here. Is English your first language?""

Playing games.
Lame
You are anything but sincere friend

 

[Psalm1]

Why are postribs the nastiest believers on the planet.?
The insults and games they play is flat out bizarre.

 

[Revelation1v8]

""I'm asking a sincere question here. Is English your first language?""

Playing games.
Lame
You are anything but sincere friend

The fact that you won't confirm or deny what I asked you tells me that English may not be your first language and you're not reading the text in the way it was meant to be understood.

For the last time, those verses in Matthew 24 are telling you that before Jesus returns for the Sheep & Goat judgement, that people will be drinking, marrying, and going on with life as usual and will not be watching or expecting His return. Just like back in the days of Noah when the people living in his day were the ones carried away in the flood and removed from the earth entirely because they were wicked.

 

[Revelation1v8]

Why are postribs the nastiest believers on the planet.?
The insults and games they play is flat out bizarre.

I never said I was a post-trib believer. I'm just telling you that I believe that the people being discussed in Matthew 24 are the ones still living on the earth during the tribulation period and how they will be sorted out when Jesus returns to earth at His second coming. If you believe in a pre-trib rapture, then you won't even be living on earth during the tribulation period, so you don't even have to worry about it, but I don't think you understand what I've already told you.

 

[Psalm1]

The fact that you won't confirm or deny what I asked you tells me that English may not be your first language and you're not reading the text in the way it was meant to be understood.

For the last time, those verses in Matthew 24 are telling you that before Jesus returns for the Sheep & Goat judgement, that people will be drinking, marrying, and going on with life as usual and will not be watching or expecting His return. Just like back in the days of Noah when the people living in his day were the ones carried away in the flood and removed from the earth entirely because they were wicked.

All postribbers have ALWAYS attested that Noah going through the flood Is representative of the church going through the trib.
That has always been.

It was Jesus, not me, that used the 50% taken/ left dynamic.

You are attempting to gloss that over and omit it.

Before the flood is the timing that is against your theory.
The normal life setting is also damaging.
The 50% taken, makes your deal virtually impossible.

Now do your little insults and play your little games all you want.
What the bible says will never go away.