The Error is Baptism in Jesus name only for salvation

[Magenta]

Ephesians 4 verses 5-6 ~ There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

 

[Branch]

So on Monday you are talking to one person and then on Friday you quote someone else
having addressed others in the same thread and everyone is just supposed to know you
made a mistake? You are being quite unrealistic to insist people should know that.

I think you knew along, but it's okay. I am concerned with the state of your heart. Can't you forgive a fault unwillingly?

 

[Branch]

Ephesians 4 verses 5-6 ~ There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are one in divine essence, but distinct in person and role.
The Father’s unique knowledge of the end times reflects this distinction of persons, not a division in the divine nature.
The Trinity is a mystery that transcends complete human understanding, but it is not considered a logical contradiction within Christian doctrine.

 

[Magenta]

I think you knew along, but it's okay. I am concerned with the state of your heart. Can't you forgive a fault unwillingly?

You have absolutely zero grounds for assuming I knew all along except as a ploy to prop up your ridiculous assertions
and unrealistic expectations. So far you have shown no remorse and rather instead hope to blame others. It is
the state of your own heart you should be concerned about.

 

[Branch]

You have absolutely zero grounds for assuming I knew all along except as a ploy to prop up your ridiculous assertions
and unrealistic expectations. So far you have shown no remorse and rather instead hope to blame others. It is
the state of your own heart you should be concerned about.

Ecclesiastes 7:28

“Which yet my soul seeketh, but I find not: one man among a thousand have I found; but a woman among all those have I not found.”

 

[Magenta]

Ecclesiastes 7:28

“Which yet my soul seeketh, but I find not: one man among a thousand have I found; but a woman among all those have I not found.”

"All men are liars!” From Psalm 116 verse 11.

 

[Branch]

"All men are liars!” From Psalm 116 verse 11.

"All men are liars!” From Psalm 116 verse 11.

The Bible presents forgiveness as a core principle of faith, rooted in the character of God and exemplified in the teachings and actions of Jesus Christ. Forgiveness is both a divine gift and a command for believers to extend to others.

 

[Branch]

The Bible presents forgiveness as a core principle of faith, rooted in the character of God and exemplified in the teachings and actions of Jesus Christ. Forgiveness is both a divine gift and a command for believers to extend to others.

Dear Magenta,


Thank you for sharing your thoughts and for quoting Psalm 116:11. It’s a powerful reminder of human frailty and the need for grace.


Forgiveness, as I understand and strive to practice it, is a conscious and deliberate decision to release resentment or the desire for vengeance, regardless of whether the other person "deserves" it. It is not always easy, but I believe it is a virtue that brings healing to both the forgiver and the forgiven.


I want you to know that I forgive you, not because of anything you have done or not done, but because I am called and empowered to forgive. May God bless you, Sister. Go in peace, and I pray that God will heal any infirmities you may have. I offer this prayer in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, Amen.


Regarding my earlier statement about the nature of God and His Son, Jesus: If I was unclear or if my words caused confusion, I apologize. My intent was to respond to CS1’s question, and I may not have expressed myself as clearly as I should have. In Christian belief, God the Father and Jesus the Son are distinct persons, yet united in the mystery of the Trinity.

 

[BillG]

BillG, precisely what do you disagree with about the bible truth stated? Yes, I got the wrong person, but what's stated is the truth of the matter.

"Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing." 1 Corinthians 13:1-3

Didn't realise you were talking about/to @Wansvic

 

[Wansvic]

I meant this for Wansvic, not CS1.

Dear Wansvic,

The Pentecostal oneness theory is wrong. Their are three separate, distinct individuals in one the bible says this. "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only." Matthew 24:36 Haven't you heard of The Lord Jesus Christ, Father, the Almighty God who made the heavens and the earth and everything else we know about and also the unknown we don't know about? That our Father God has created."Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, that the everlasting God, the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? there is no searching of his understanding." Isaiah 40:28 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." Genesis 1:1 The Lord Jesus Christ said, "Before Abraham was, I am.""Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am."John 8:58 Our Lord Jesus was with God."In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." John 1:1-3 The Lord's Prayer starts with "Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name." "After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name." Matthew 6:9 Jesus is proclaiming his Father, God, to be the Father of all Christians, because all the way through the New Testament, the Lord speaks and prays to his heavenly Father."These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:"John 17:1

I know Pentecostals. I'm Pentecostal, but I believe that every part of the bible is true and not up for interpretation. I had debated with a visiting minister who was Pentecostal because our minister, Pastor Colman, May God bless his soul, had gone home and never brought up these controversial teachings. I wasn't aware that the Pentecostals had omitted parts of the bible that didn't fit in with their weird doctrine until this visiting preacher. After his sermon at church, I walked over to the stage. I talked to him about what John the Baptist said: "I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:" Matt 3:11. When I was stating bible truths, I looked into his eyes, his pupils looked like two black wormholes. I realised he was not in the right spirit and that he was a cultist. And this thing about Pentecostals believing that a person to be saved must be baptised in their baptismal pool is false. It's alarming that some Pentecostal churches think that they are the only denomination of Christians worldwide that's going to heaven. It is false.
God bless you, brother.

As referenced the bible reveals water baptism is to be administered in a name and that name is Jesus. Jesus was fully God, and fully man.

CONSIDER THESE SCRIPTURES:

GOD IS COMING
Zechariah 14:4,5, 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18, Revelation 19:11,16
JESUS IS COMING
1 Thess 3:11-13, Matthew 25:31-46, Titus 2:11-13


GOD THE CREATOR
Genesis 1:1, 2:7, Job 33:4, Psalm 33:6, 104:30, Isa 40:28, 44:24, 45:11-18, Mal 2:10
JESUS THE CREATOR
John 1:10, 1 Cor. 8:6, Ephesians 3:9, Col. 1:12-17, Hebrews 1:8-12, Revelation 4:8-11, 10:6, 14:6-7, 21:5-7, 22:3.


GOD THE ROCK
Deut 32:1-4, 2 Samuel 22:1-3, 22:32, Psalm 18:2, 31:3, 78:34-35, 89:26, Isaiah 17:10-11
JESUS THE ROCK
1 Thess 3:11-13, Matt 25:31-46, Titus 2:11-13


GOD THE REDEEMER AND SAVIOR
Psalm 78:34-35, Isaiah 47:4, 44:6, 43:3-11, 45:21, 49:26, Psalm 106:21, Luke 1:46-47
JESUS THE REDEEMER AND SAVIOR
1 John 4:14, 1 Peter 2:21-24, Acts 20:28, Gal 3:13, Luke 24:21-29, 2:10-11, Philippians 3:20, 1 Timothy 1:1-3, 4:10, Titus 1:1-4, 2:10-13, 1 Peter 1:10-11, Jude 25


GOD FIRST AND LAST
Isaiah 41:4, 43:10-11, 44:6-8
JESUS FIRST AND LAST
Revelation 1:17, 22:13


GOD THE SHEPHERD
Psalm 23, Isaiah 40:10-11, Psalm 100
JESUS THE SHEPHERD
John 10:8-12, 1 Peter 2:21-25, Hebrews 13:20, 1 Peter 5:4


GOD THE I AM
AND I AM HE Exodus 3:13-14, Isaiah 43:10-11 and 25.
JESUS THE I AM AND I AM HE
John 18:5-8, 8:24-28, Revelation 1:17-18


GOD THE KING
Psalm 24, 44:4, 74:12, Isaiah 43:10-15, 44:6-8, Jeremiah 10:10, Zephaniah 14:9
JESUS THE KING
Matthew 2:1-6, Luke 19:32-28, 23:3, John 18:37, 19:21, 1 Timothy 6:13-16, Revelation 15:1-4, 19:11-16


GOD CALMS THE SEA
Psalm 107:21-30.
JESUS CALMS THE SEA
Mark 4:36-41


AND THE TRUTH CONTINUES TO BE REVEALED...
John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:10-12
He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:


WHO RESURRECTED JESUS?
John 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I WILL RAISE IT UP.

Acts 2:23-24 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:
WHOM GOD HATH RAISED UP, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.


JESUS speaking to Nicodemus while on the Earth says He is in Heaven:
John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.


John 10:30
I and my Father are one.

John 14:9
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?


1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Deuteronomy 6:4
Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:

Revelation 1:8
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Revelation 22:13
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

Revelation 22:16
I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

 

[Wansvic]

...Our Lord Jesus was with God.'...

The Lord Jesus is God; "In the beginning was the Word, (Jesus was God's Word that became flesh) and the Word was with God, and the Word WAS God." John 1:1

 

[Wansvic]

The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are one in divine essence, but distinct in person and role.
The Father’s unique knowledge of the end times reflects this distinction of persons, not a division in the divine nature.
The Trinity is a mystery that transcends complete human understanding, but it is not considered a logical contradiction within Christian doctrine.

Jesus was limited in knowledge while in the flesh

"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory." 1 Tim. 3:16

"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." Isa. 9-6

Ponder the fact that Matthew and Luke's genealogies trace Jesus' ancestry back to King David. Jesus revealed He is the root and the offspring of David. (Rev. 22:16) Meaning He both created David (root) and was born in the flesh in the line of David. (offspring)

 

[DeanM]

The RCC is the king of works. But there are also several princes of works here as well. I see grace through faith with baptism being an affirmation of my faith. People demanding this and that seem to have no faith in Jesus Christ and his finished work on the cross. Im done here now so continue to post the walls of text time and again. Like the U.S. marxists know, repetitive statements, true or false, repeated often enough will convince at least some of the people.

 

[lrs68]

Here's the Biblical truth in a simple explanation on the topic of Salvation.

A person who is Saved will prove their Salvation because of their Works. They will be a Witness for God, a true Disciple that is bringing new people to God, they will give of their time and finances to help further the Gospel being preached.

None of those Works help you get Saved.

But ALL of those Works mentioned ^ will Testify that you are Saved.

 

[Lamar]

You can't delete a post after the posting time limit. Try to stay on topic.

"you have to be saved before you are water-baptized and also to receive the Holy Spirit to confirm your born-again experience that had to happen before water baptism"

Are you saying that you did not delete this statement from your post# 970?

I await your honest response.

 

[Lamar]

Here's the Biblical truth in a simple explanation on the topic of Salvation.

A person who is Saved will prove their Salvation because of their Works. They will be a Witness for God, a true Disciple that is bringing new people to God, they will give of their time and finances to help further the Gospel being preached.

None of those Works help you get Saved.

But ALL of those Works mentioned ^ will Testify that you are Saved.

Works prove salvation?

So what works prove salvation?

 

[lrs68]

Works prove salvation?

So what works prove salvation?

If you are saved by God your works will be for God and to help spread the Gospel of Jesus to everyone else.

 

[Lamar]

The RCC is the king of works. But there are also several princes of works here as well. I see grace through faith with baptism being an affirmation of my faith. People demanding this and that seem to have no faith in Jesus Christ and his finished work on the cross. Im done here now so continue to post the walls of text time and again. Like the U.S. marxists know, repetitive statements, true or false, repeated often enough will convince at least some of the people.

Water baptism affirms a person's faith?

 

[Lamar]

If you are saved by God your works will be for God and to help spread the Gospel of Jesus to everyone else.

That's nice but what about the question you are side-stepping?

 

[lrs68]

That's nice but what about the question you are side-stepping?

How can my works save me?