The Gospel According to John--"I Am The Bread of Life" (John 6:35)
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do you see the day of atonement anywhere in relation to the seven trumpets ? As to when they began to sound ?
“And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.
And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets.
And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne.
And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand. And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.
And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.”
Revelation 8:1-6 KJV
“And seven priests shall bear before the ark seven trumpets of rams' horns: and the seventh day ye shall compass the city seven times, and the priests shall blow with the trumpets.”
Joshua 6:4 KJV
“And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.
And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets.
And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne.
And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand. And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.
And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.”
Revelation 8:1-6 KJV
“And seven priests shall bear before the ark seven trumpets of rams' horns: and the seventh day ye shall compass the city seven times, and the priests shall blow with the trumpets.”
Joshua 6:4 KJV
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“And it came to pass, when Joshua had spoken unto the people, that the seven priests bearing the seven trumpets of rams' horns passed on before the LORD, and blew with the trumpets: and the ark of the covenant of the LORD followed them.
And the armed men went before the priests that blew with the trumpets, and the rereward came after the ark, the priests going on, and blowing with the trumpets. And Joshua had commanded the people, saying, Ye shall not shout, nor make any noise with your voice, neither shall any word proceed out of your mouth, until the day I bid you shout; then shall ye shout.
And Joshua rose early in the morning, and the priests took up the ark of the LORD. And seven priests bearing seven trumpets of rams' horns before the ark of the LORD went on continually, and blew with the trumpets: and the armed men went before them; but the rereward came after the ark of the LORD, the priests going on, and blowing with the trumpets.
And the second day they compassed the city once, and returned into the camp: so they did six days.
And it came to pass on the seventh day, that they rose early about the dawning of the day, and compassed the city after the same manner seven times: only on that day they compassed the city seven times. And it came to pass at the seventh time, when the priests blew with the trumpets, Joshua said unto the people, Shout; for the LORD hath given you the city.
And the city shall be accursed, even it, and all that are therein, to the LORD: only Rahab the harlot shall live, she and all that are with her in the house, because she hid the messengers that we sent.
And ye, in any wise keep yourselves from the accursed thing, lest ye make yourselves accursed, when ye take of the accursed thing, and make the camp of Israel a curse, and trouble it. But all the silver, and gold, and vessels of brass and iron, are consecrated unto the LORD: they shall come into the treasury of the LORD.
So the people shouted when the priests blew with the trumpets: and it came to pass, when the people heard the sound of the trumpet, and the people shouted with a great shout, that the wall fell down flat, so that the people went up into the city, every man straight before him, and they took the city.
And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword.”
Joshua 6:8-10, 12-21 KJV
“but the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
2 Peter 3:7, 10-13 KJV
The world is going to fall like Jericho do you think the trumpets in the ot ….also with what you’re saying are an earthly pattern of what’s been promised and foretold in the new ? Especially looking at the book of revelation’s ( also from John ) Imagery ?
And the armed men went before the priests that blew with the trumpets, and the rereward came after the ark, the priests going on, and blowing with the trumpets. And Joshua had commanded the people, saying, Ye shall not shout, nor make any noise with your voice, neither shall any word proceed out of your mouth, until the day I bid you shout; then shall ye shout.
And Joshua rose early in the morning, and the priests took up the ark of the LORD. And seven priests bearing seven trumpets of rams' horns before the ark of the LORD went on continually, and blew with the trumpets: and the armed men went before them; but the rereward came after the ark of the LORD, the priests going on, and blowing with the trumpets.
And the second day they compassed the city once, and returned into the camp: so they did six days.
And it came to pass on the seventh day, that they rose early about the dawning of the day, and compassed the city after the same manner seven times: only on that day they compassed the city seven times. And it came to pass at the seventh time, when the priests blew with the trumpets, Joshua said unto the people, Shout; for the LORD hath given you the city.
And the city shall be accursed, even it, and all that are therein, to the LORD: only Rahab the harlot shall live, she and all that are with her in the house, because she hid the messengers that we sent.
And ye, in any wise keep yourselves from the accursed thing, lest ye make yourselves accursed, when ye take of the accursed thing, and make the camp of Israel a curse, and trouble it. But all the silver, and gold, and vessels of brass and iron, are consecrated unto the LORD: they shall come into the treasury of the LORD.
So the people shouted when the priests blew with the trumpets: and it came to pass, when the people heard the sound of the trumpet, and the people shouted with a great shout, that the wall fell down flat, so that the people went up into the city, every man straight before him, and they took the city.
And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword.”
Joshua 6:8-10, 12-21 KJV
“but the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
2 Peter 3:7, 10-13 KJV
The world is going to fall like Jericho do you think the trumpets in the ot ….also with what you’re saying are an earthly pattern of what’s been promised and foretold in the new ? Especially looking at the book of revelation’s ( also from John ) Imagery ?
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Oops, a couple of times I typed kari5.com instead of kari55.com .
(My keyboard numbers above the letters don't work so well...) .
I listen on the radio in my car and at home and also on my phone at work...
But you could have them on on your device while you are here, also...
Although Saturdays are a mixed bag of teachings and health oriented infomercials, then foreign language programs in the evening.
(My keyboard numbers above the letters don't work so well...) .
I listen on the radio in my car and at home and also on my phone at work...
But you could have them on on your device while you are here, also...
Although Saturdays are a mixed bag of teachings and health oriented infomercials, then foreign language programs in the evening.
You’re appreciated and loved sister in Christ !! We already know how I feel about your artwork so that doesn’t need to be mentioned again …oops 😂
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Thank you as always for your very kind words, brother Pilgrim. Likewise I appreciate your insights and the
things you share! There is often so much there it makes it easy for me to find something to relate to or add
a panel to go alongside of .. I have been listening to kari55 for a long time even if sometimes it is only on
in the background... some of the teachers have remained constant and others have come and gone and the
program schedule has changed a little reflecting those fluctuations of additions and subtraction, but always
it is good to have God's Word being spoken into my life and hear other people's understandings of it...
things you share! There is often so much there it makes it easy for me to find something to relate to or add
a panel to go alongside of .
. I have been listening to kari55 for a long time even if sometimes it is only on in the background... some of the teachers have remained constant and others have come and gone and the
program schedule has changed a little reflecting those fluctuations of additions and subtraction, but always
it is good to have God's Word being spoken into my life and hear other people's understandings of it...
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Thank you as always for your very kind words, brother Pilgrim. Likewise I appreciate your insights and the
things you share! There is often so much there it makes it easy for me to find something to relate to or add
a panel to go alongside of .. I have been listening to kari55 for a long time even if sometimes it is only on
in the background... some of the teachers have remained constant and others have come and gone and the
program schedule has changed a little reflecting those fluctuations of additions and subtraction, but always
it is good to have God's Word being spoken into my life and hear other people's understandings of it...
things you share! There is often so much there it makes it easy for me to find something to relate to or add
a panel to go alongside of .
. I have been listening to kari55 for a long time even if sometimes it is only on in the background... some of the teachers have remained constant and others have come and gone and the
program schedule has changed a little reflecting those fluctuations of additions and subtraction, but always
it is good to have God's Word being spoken into my life and hear other people's understandings of it...
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There aren't many direct references to the Day of Atonement in the New Testament other than a passing reference to "The Fast" in the book of Acts. On the other hand, there are multiple references to atonement, especially the Book of Hebrews. We have at-one-ment with God now through the sacrifice of Jesus.
The best prophetic representation of the Day of Atonement I know of in Revelation is:
Revelation 20:2
New King James Version
2 He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years;
With Satan and his demons bound, they will no longer be able to deceive the nations during the millennium. That will certainly help to facilitate the atonement of humanity with their Creator during the 1000 year reign of Jesus Christ on earth.
The best prophetic representation of the Day of Atonement I know of in Revelation is:
Revelation 20:2
New King James Version
2 He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years;
With Satan and his demons bound, they will no longer be able to deceive the nations during the millennium. That will certainly help to facilitate the atonement of humanity with their Creator during the 1000 year reign of Jesus Christ on earth.
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Here's an interesting parallel from the OT:
Leviticus 16:20-22
New King James Version
20 “And when he has made an end of atoning for the Holy Place, the tabernacle of meeting, and the altar, he shall bring the live goat. 21 Aaron shall lay both his hands on the head of the live goat, confess over it all the iniquities of the children of Israel, and all their transgressions, concerning all their sins, putting them on the head of the goat, and shall send it away into the wilderness by the hand of a suitable man. 22 The goat [a]shall bear on itself all their iniquities to an [b]uninhabited land; and he shall release the goat in the wilderness.
The scapegoat can be viewed as Satan bearing the ultimate responsibility for man's sin and being bound and cast out into the wilderness (the "uninhabited land") where he will be unable to influence man with rebellion and pride.
Leviticus 16:20-22
New King James Version
20 “And when he has made an end of atoning for the Holy Place, the tabernacle of meeting, and the altar, he shall bring the live goat. 21 Aaron shall lay both his hands on the head of the live goat, confess over it all the iniquities of the children of Israel, and all their transgressions, concerning all their sins, putting them on the head of the goat, and shall send it away into the wilderness by the hand of a suitable man. 22 The goat [a]shall bear on itself all their iniquities to an [b]uninhabited land; and he shall release the goat in the wilderness.
The scapegoat can be viewed as Satan bearing the ultimate responsibility for man's sin and being bound and cast out into the wilderness (the "uninhabited land") where he will be unable to influence man with rebellion and pride.
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Do you remember what the high priest did on day of atonement ?
“And Moses said unto Aaron, Take a censer, and put fire therein from off the altar, and put on incense, and go quickly unto the congregation, and make an atonement for them: for there is wrath gone out from the LORD; the plague is begun.”
Numbers 16:46 KJV
“And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne. And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand. And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake. And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.”
Revelation 8:3-6
“And Moses said unto Aaron, Take a censer, and put fire therein from off the altar, and put on incense, and go quickly unto the congregation, and make an atonement for them: for there is wrath gone out from the LORD; the plague is begun.”
Numbers 16:46 KJV
“And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne. And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand. And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake. And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.”
Revelation 8:3-6
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Amen, and from Hebrews:
Hebrews 9:7
New King James Version
7 But into the second part the high priest went alone once a year (Day of Atonement), not without blood, which he offered for himself and for the people’s sins committed in ignorance;
Atonement is one of the most powerful aspects of our faith, and it is certainly important to our loving God as well!
Hebrews 9:7
New King James Version
7 But into the second part the high priest went alone once a year (Day of Atonement), not without blood, which he offered for himself and for the people’s sins committed in ignorance;
Atonement is one of the most powerful aspects of our faith, and it is certainly important to our loving God as well!
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Sorry I should have used this one regarding day of atonement
“And Aaron shall bring the bullock of the sin offering, which is for himself, and shall make an atonement for himself, and for his house, and shall kill the bullock of the sin offering which is for himself: and he shall take a censer full of burning coals of fire from off the altar before the LORD, and his hands full of sweet incense beaten small, and bring it within the vail: and he shall put the incense upon the fire before the LORD, that the cloud of the incense may cover the mercy seat that is upon the testimony, that he die not: and he shall take of the blood of the bullock, and sprinkle it with his finger upon the mercy seat eastward; and before the mercy seat shall he sprinkle of the blood with his finger seven times.”
Leviticus 16:11-14
“And Aaron shall bring the bullock of the sin offering, which is for himself, and shall make an atonement for himself, and for his house, and shall kill the bullock of the sin offering which is for himself: and he shall take a censer full of burning coals of fire from off the altar before the LORD, and his hands full of sweet incense beaten small, and bring it within the vail: and he shall put the incense upon the fire before the LORD, that the cloud of the incense may cover the mercy seat that is upon the testimony, that he die not: and he shall take of the blood of the bullock, and sprinkle it with his finger upon the mercy seat eastward; and before the mercy seat shall he sprinkle of the blood with his finger seven times.”
Leviticus 16:11-14
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The Day of Atonement goes hand-in-hand with Passover as well:
Luke 23:44-47
New King James Version
Jesus Dies on the Cross
44 Now it [a]was about the sixth hour, and there was darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour. 45 Then the sun was [b]darkened, and the veil of the temple was torn in [c]two. 46 And when Jesus had cried out with a loud voice, He said, “Father, ‘into Your hands I commit My spirit.’ ” Having said this, He breathed His last.
Jesus' death tore the veil to the Holy-of-Holies in two. We have open access, Atonement, with our Father in heaven!
Luke 23:44-47
New King James Version
Jesus Dies on the Cross
44 Now it [a]was about the sixth hour, and there was darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour. 45 Then the sun was [b]darkened, and the veil of the temple was torn in [c]two. 46 And when Jesus had cried out with a loud voice, He said, “Father, ‘into Your hands I commit My spirit.’ ” Having said this, He breathed His last.
Jesus' death tore the veil to the Holy-of-Holies in two. We have open access, Atonement, with our Father in heaven!
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Amen we know the atonement was made when Christ was put to suffering and shame at Calvary
revelation is a unique book in that it’s outside the realm of linear timeline and literal interpretations we have to see the imagery and understand the doctrine it’s communicating
for example
“And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne. And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; and hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.”
Revelation 5:5-10 KJV
What I’m meaning about revelation is
“behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof. “
there’s no actual lion or root of David it’s referencing it prophecy and figures about Christ and the message how he overcame to restore judgement upon the earth
“And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.”
theres really no actual lamb as it was skin having seven eyes and horns ect but this imagery is conveying the message of chi diets atonement being “ the lamb of God “ who was slain and yet lived and rose up to the throne and sent forth his spirit into the world at pentocost
the reason I’m saying this is it’s the same way later in the book the imagery is showing us a message
“And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.”
Revelation 13:1 KJV
There’s really no beast with ten horns it’s showing a message
“And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. And there are seven kings: five are fallen, ( past ) and one is, ( johns present day ) and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.( johns near future )
And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.”( in the distant future when the Beast rises a second time from perdition and the pit to lead the war of armegeddon and lose )
Revelation 17:9-12 KJV
even the time periods and numbers are the same in revelation it’s all based on what the Old Testament said would happen
revelation is a unique book in that it’s outside the realm of linear timeline and literal interpretations we have to see the imagery and understand the doctrine it’s communicating
for example
“And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne. And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; and hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.”
Revelation 5:5-10 KJV
What I’m meaning about revelation is
“behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof. “
there’s no actual lion or root of David it’s referencing it prophecy and figures about Christ and the message how he overcame to restore judgement upon the earth
“And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.”
theres really no actual lamb as it was skin having seven eyes and horns ect but this imagery is conveying the message of chi diets atonement being “ the lamb of God “ who was slain and yet lived and rose up to the throne and sent forth his spirit into the world at pentocost
the reason I’m saying this is it’s the same way later in the book the imagery is showing us a message
“And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.”
Revelation 13:1 KJV
There’s really no beast with ten horns it’s showing a message
“And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. And there are seven kings: five are fallen, ( past ) and one is, ( johns present day ) and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.( johns near future )
And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.”( in the distant future when the Beast rises a second time from perdition and the pit to lead the war of armegeddon and lose )
Revelation 17:9-12 KJV
even the time periods and numbers are the same in revelation it’s all based on what the Old Testament said would happen
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Amen Jesus became the high priest , in tbe true heavenly tabernacle
He became the perfect sacrifice of atonement he offered as priest
He became the one mediator between God and man
he became the temple of God
He became all the Old Testament had structured in the pattern
He is the sin sacrifice who dies for sin and also the scapegoat that goes away living to another land bearing the sins of the people
He is the Passover sacrifice wherby death passes us over That’s coming to all the land his blood is what’s painted upon our souls
He is the atoning sacrifice the propitiation in ever aspect completely by the gospel ll sacrifice is fuflilled in him as well as all judgement is given to him he’s also become the judge of the world
at he only name under heaven whereby we must be saved Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father !!! Every tongue will confess and bow because he has completely fulfilled those blood requirements and justification ordinances those were foreshadows and patterns of what he’s done so we could understand it when he came
“Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; and having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,”
Colossians 2:8-9, 13-18
He became the perfect sacrifice of atonement he offered as priest
He became the one mediator between God and man
he became the temple of God
He became all the Old Testament had structured in the pattern
He is the sin sacrifice who dies for sin and also the scapegoat that goes away living to another land bearing the sins of the people
He is the Passover sacrifice wherby death passes us over That’s coming to all the land his blood is what’s painted upon our souls
He is the atoning sacrifice the propitiation in ever aspect completely by the gospel ll sacrifice is fuflilled in him as well as all judgement is given to him he’s also become the judge of the world
at he only name under heaven whereby we must be saved Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father !!! Every tongue will confess and bow because he has completely fulfilled those blood requirements and justification ordinances those were foreshadows and patterns of what he’s done so we could understand it when he came
“Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; and having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,”
Colossians 2:8-9, 13-18
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Hi brother! I really appreciate the sidetrack we took down the Jewish festival and prophecy road yesterday, and I may have to dabble in some more of that today, too.
But, I want to spend a little time with Jesus at the Feast of Tabernacles in John chapter 7, so going back to the verse below and speculate why Jesus shared into during that Feast is interesting:
John 7:24
New King James Version
24 Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.
When Jesus went up into the temple to teach during the Feast, the Jews were puzzled how this simple carpenter from the country village of Nazareth who had little to no formal education could be such a powerful teacher. On top of that, how could he heal people, and why does he do it on the Sabbath? They even accused Jesus of having a demon (v. 20).
Here's what Jesus had to say to all of this, and He just totally and rhetorically destroys their criticisms:
21 "Jesus answered and said to them, “I did one work, and you all marvel. 22 Moses therefore gave you circumcision (not that it is from Moses, but from the fathers), and you circumcise a man on the Sabbath. 23 If a man receives circumcision on the Sabbath, so that the law of Moses should not be broken, are you angry with Me because I made a man completely well on the Sabbath? 24 Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.”
So, it's ok to perform circumcisions (ouch!) on the Sabbath, but it's not ok to heal people?
Jesus also tells us that we should judge not, but that is referring more to a condemning type of judgement. What Jesus is talking about in verse 24 is not judging based on appearance alone--look at the big picture. Righteous judgement comes from God and His Word. And, judgement is a key theme of the millennium. Jesus Christ as King will execute righteous judgement (justice) during His reign!
But, I want to spend a little time with Jesus at the Feast of Tabernacles in John chapter 7, so going back to the verse below and speculate why Jesus shared into during that Feast is interesting:
John 7:24
New King James Version
24 Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.
When Jesus went up into the temple to teach during the Feast, the Jews were puzzled how this simple carpenter from the country village of Nazareth who had little to no formal education could be such a powerful teacher. On top of that, how could he heal people, and why does he do it on the Sabbath? They even accused Jesus of having a demon (v. 20).
Here's what Jesus had to say to all of this, and He just totally and rhetorically destroys their criticisms:
21 "Jesus answered and said to them, “I did one work, and you all marvel. 22 Moses therefore gave you circumcision (not that it is from Moses, but from the fathers), and you circumcise a man on the Sabbath. 23 If a man receives circumcision on the Sabbath, so that the law of Moses should not be broken, are you angry with Me because I made a man completely well on the Sabbath? 24 Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.”
So, it's ok to perform circumcisions (ouch!) on the Sabbath, but it's not ok to heal people?
Jesus also tells us that we should judge not, but that is referring more to a condemning type of judgement. What Jesus is talking about in verse 24 is not judging based on appearance alone--look at the big picture. Righteous judgement comes from God and His Word. And, judgement is a key theme of the millennium. Jesus Christ as King will execute righteous judgement (justice) during His reign!
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Hi brother! I really appreciate the sidetrack we took down the Jewish festival and prophecy road yesterday, and I may have to dabble in some more of that today, too.
But, I want to spend a little time with Jesus at the Feast of Tabernacles in John chapter 7, so going back to the verse below and speculate why Jesus shared into during that Feast is interesting:
John 7:24
New King James Version
24 Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.
When Jesus went up into the temple to teach during the Feast, the Jews were puzzled how this simple carpenter from the country village of Nazareth who had little to no formal education could be such a powerful teacher. On top of that, how could he heal people, and why does he do it on the Sabbath? They even accused Jesus of having a demon (v. 20).
Here's what Jesus had to say to all of this, and He just totally and rhetorically destroys their criticisms:
21 "Jesus answered and said to them, “I did one work, and you all marvel. 22 Moses therefore gave you circumcision (not that it is from Moses, but from the fathers), and you circumcise a man on the Sabbath. 23 If a man receives circumcision on the Sabbath, so that the law of Moses should not be broken, are you angry with Me because I made a man completely well on the Sabbath? 24 Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.”
So, it's ok to perform circumcisions (ouch!) on the Sabbath, but it's not ok to heal people?
Jesus also tells us that we should judge not, but that is referring more to a condemning type of judgement. What Jesus is talking about in verse 24 is not judging based on appearance alone--look at the big picture. Righteous judgement comes from God and His Word. And, judgement is a key theme of the millennium. Jesus Christ as King will execute righteous judgement (justice) during His reign!
But, I want to spend a little time with Jesus at the Feast of Tabernacles in John chapter 7, so going back to the verse below and speculate why Jesus shared into during that Feast is interesting:
John 7:24
New King James Version
24 Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.
When Jesus went up into the temple to teach during the Feast, the Jews were puzzled how this simple carpenter from the country village of Nazareth who had little to no formal education could be such a powerful teacher. On top of that, how could he heal people, and why does he do it on the Sabbath? They even accused Jesus of having a demon (v. 20).
Here's what Jesus had to say to all of this, and He just totally and rhetorically destroys their criticisms:
21 "Jesus answered and said to them, “I did one work, and you all marvel. 22 Moses therefore gave you circumcision (not that it is from Moses, but from the fathers), and you circumcise a man on the Sabbath. 23 If a man receives circumcision on the Sabbath, so that the law of Moses should not be broken, are you angry with Me because I made a man completely well on the Sabbath? 24 Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.”
So, it's ok to perform circumcisions (ouch!) on the Sabbath, but it's not ok to heal people?
Jesus also tells us that we should judge not, but that is referring more to a condemning type of judgement. What Jesus is talking about in verse 24 is not judging based on appearance alone--look at the big picture. Righteous judgement comes from God and His Word. And, judgement is a key theme of the millennium. Jesus Christ as King will execute righteous judgement (justice) during His reign!
And amen mankind lost judgement in tbe ot it’s why Christ came to preach the gospel Gods eternal judgement
“Behold, the LORD's hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear: but your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
The way of peace they know not; and there is no judgment in their goings: they have made them crooked paths: whosoever goeth therein shall not know peace. Therefore is judgment far from us, neither doth justice overtake us: we wait for light, but behold obscurity; for brightness, but we walk in darkness. We grope for the wall like the blind, and we grope as if we had no eyes: we stumble at noon day as in the night; we are in desolate places as dead men. For our transgressions are multiplied before thee, and our sins testify against us: for our transgressions are with us; and as for our iniquities, we know them; in transgressing and lying against the LORD, and departing away from our God, speaking oppression and revolt, conceiving and uttering from the heart words of falsehood.
And judgment is turned away backward, and justice standeth afar off: for truth is fallen in the street, and equity cannot enter. Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the LORD saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment. And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him. For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloke. According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay, fury to his adversaries, recompence to his enemies; to the islands he will repay recompence. So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him. And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD. As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever.”
Isaiah 59:1-2, 8-10, 12-21
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Hi brother! I really appreciate the sidetrack we took down the Jewish festival and prophecy road yesterday, and I may have to dabble in some more of that today, too.
But, I want to spend a little time with Jesus at the Feast of Tabernacles in John chapter 7, so going back to the verse below and speculate why Jesus shared into during that Feast is interesting:
John 7:24
New King James Version
24 Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.
When Jesus went up into the temple to teach during the Feast, the Jews were puzzled how this simple carpenter from the country village of Nazareth who had little to no formal education could be such a powerful teacher. On top of that, how could he heal people, and why does he do it on the Sabbath? They even accused Jesus of having a demon (v. 20).
Here's what Jesus had to say to all of this, and He just totally and rhetorically destroys their criticisms:
21 "Jesus answered and said to them, “I did one work, and you all marvel. 22 Moses therefore gave you circumcision (not that it is from Moses, but from the fathers), and you circumcise a man on the Sabbath. 23 If a man receives circumcision on the Sabbath, so that the law of Moses should not be broken, are you angry with Me because I made a man completely well on the Sabbath? 24 Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.”
So, it's ok to perform circumcisions (ouch!) on the Sabbath, but it's not ok to heal people?
Jesus also tells us that we should judge not, but that is referring more to a condemning type of judgement. What Jesus is talking about in verse 24 is not judging based on appearance alone--look at the big picture. Righteous judgement comes from God and His Word. And, judgement is a key theme of the millennium. Jesus Christ as King will execute righteous judgement (justice) during His reign!
But, I want to spend a little time with Jesus at the Feast of Tabernacles in John chapter 7, so going back to the verse below and speculate why Jesus shared into during that Feast is interesting:
John 7:24
New King James Version
24 Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.
When Jesus went up into the temple to teach during the Feast, the Jews were puzzled how this simple carpenter from the country village of Nazareth who had little to no formal education could be such a powerful teacher. On top of that, how could he heal people, and why does he do it on the Sabbath? They even accused Jesus of having a demon (v. 20).
Here's what Jesus had to say to all of this, and He just totally and rhetorically destroys their criticisms:
21 "Jesus answered and said to them, “I did one work, and you all marvel. 22 Moses therefore gave you circumcision (not that it is from Moses, but from the fathers), and you circumcise a man on the Sabbath. 23 If a man receives circumcision on the Sabbath, so that the law of Moses should not be broken, are you angry with Me because I made a man completely well on the Sabbath? 24 Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.”
So, it's ok to perform circumcisions (ouch!) on the Sabbath, but it's not ok to heal people?
Jesus also tells us that we should judge not, but that is referring more to a condemning type of judgement. What Jesus is talking about in verse 24 is not judging based on appearance alone--look at the big picture. Righteous judgement comes from God and His Word. And, judgement is a key theme of the millennium. Jesus Christ as King will execute righteous judgement (justice) during His reign!
“For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.
Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it.
He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks. Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way. I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean. But if thy brother be grieved with thy meat, now walkest thou not charitably. Destroy not him with thy meat, for whom Christ died.”
Romans 14:2-6, 13-15 KJV
With faith it seems ( just my opinion ) it seems as if something like which foods the law seems clean or unclean or which days the law says are sabbaths or special days holy days those types of things should be a personal conviction and we should try to enforce what we believe about say a sabbath day or a good law controversy on others but we should live by our convictions ourselves so our conscience remains clear
often we try to make everyone else have to approach God and relate to God only how we think we did or someone can do if I believe we must observe the Old Testament sabbath in a certain manner I might try to force that same requirement in a other person and make it about “ unless you do this you can’t belong to Christ “
We have to stay out of that fray and position it seems like to me and instead it should be a law within my own self tbat God has convicted me to keep but u deters ding if someone else doesn’t believe they need to honor one specific day then we have to allow that to be between them and God and not I powe our own beliefs on others
faith is very personal basis stuff according to what the lords taught us
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Amen, Paul has some great thoughts on the judgement topic, and of course his faith-based perspective puts everything into clear focus in Jesus:
Romans 2:1-4
New King James Version
God’s Righteous Judgment
2 Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, whoever you are who judge, for in whatever you judge another you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things. 2 But we know that the judgment of God is according to truth against those who practice such things. 3 And do you think this, O man, you who judge those practicing such things, and doing the same, that you will escape the judgment of God? 4 Or do you despise the riches of His goodness, forbearance, and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leads you to repentance?
Romans 2:1-4
New King James Version
God’s Righteous Judgment
2 Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, whoever you are who judge, for in whatever you judge another you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things. 2 But we know that the judgment of God is according to truth against those who practice such things. 3 And do you think this, O man, you who judge those practicing such things, and doing the same, that you will escape the judgment of God? 4 Or do you despise the riches of His goodness, forbearance, and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leads you to repentance?
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Indeed
“So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.”
James 2:12-13
“And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.”
Acts 10:42 KJV
“Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall be given into your bosom.
For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.
….And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like: he is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock.
But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.”
Luke 6:36-38, 46-49 KJV
“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.”
2 Corinthians 5:10 KJV
therefore we should choose the judgements of Christ that are about imperfect people being saved through mercy the law of mercy
“Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.”
Matthew 18:21-22 KJV
As you show there that’s what Paul’s discussing the judgement of Christ in the gospel that if we don’t stop judging others guilty when we’re imperfect also we’re going to have just our deeds to be judged and. It the mercy orimised by the lord if we hear what he’s actually saying in the promise
“For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
but if ye forgive not men their trespasses,
neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.”
Matthew 6:14-15 KJV
We’ve all sinned and we all still sometimes mess up and fall down and do something not right at least I can say I’ve experienced that more than once but we have this in Christ
“but if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.”
1 John 1:7-10 KJV
He knows we’re I perfect and not what we’re going to be yet so we have his words and law of truth and mercy wher we can be merciful to others who sin against us , understsnding Jesus not o my died for my sins but the sins of the offender and I now have become part of Christ who loves sinners and came to save them
“So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.”
James 2:12-13
“And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.”
Acts 10:42 KJV
“Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall be given into your bosom.
For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.
….And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like: he is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock.
But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.”
Luke 6:36-38, 46-49 KJV
“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.”
2 Corinthians 5:10 KJV
therefore we should choose the judgements of Christ that are about imperfect people being saved through mercy the law of mercy
“Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.”
Matthew 18:21-22 KJV
As you show there that’s what Paul’s discussing the judgement of Christ in the gospel that if we don’t stop judging others guilty when we’re imperfect also we’re going to have just our deeds to be judged and. It the mercy orimised by the lord if we hear what he’s actually saying in the promise
“For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
but if ye forgive not men their trespasses,
neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.”
Matthew 6:14-15 KJV
We’ve all sinned and we all still sometimes mess up and fall down and do something not right at least I can say I’ve experienced that more than once but we have this in Christ
“but if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.”
1 John 1:7-10 KJV
He knows we’re I perfect and not what we’re going to be yet so we have his words and law of truth and mercy wher we can be merciful to others who sin against us , understsnding Jesus not o my died for my sins but the sins of the offender and I now have become part of Christ who loves sinners and came to save them
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