What doe's law have on the blood?
A lot of scriptures quoted here, but I see you misunderstand them, quoting them out of context, and even misusing them on issues that are not relevant to your point.
Consider also the fact that you judge righteousness by deeds of the law.
Whilst you distort scripture in the hope to falsely argue that Paul preached in favor of works of the law, the gospel contradicts you.
What is the strength of sin according to Gods Word? The law...the Ten commandments produces sinful lust in the flesh...so the solution to sin is not the law of Moses...Its the finished Work of Jesus Christ....
Ro 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 ¶ What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
The law still convicts the person if they are walking in unrepented or confessed sins.
The difference is that you will not have to face the punishments of the mosaic laws ordinances, but you will be in danger of facing judgment and a fiery indignation.
Colossians 1:28
Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:
Well if their under law...no wonder they are walking in sin....because the strength of sin is the law....of course all who are under the law are in a condition of bondage to sin....Its the grace of God that teaches Godliness....Not the law....All the law is doing is taking you and others around the same mountain in the wilderness of sin...again and again....
I never said Paul preached in favor of works of the mosaic law.
What Paul taught was that by out of love for the Lord you will keep and uphold His commandments as you are walking in the Spirit. If you are not upholding His commandments out of love for Him then you are not in the Spirit, you are walking carnal minded.
The law still convicts the person if they are walking in unrepented or confessed sins.
The difference is that you will not have to face the punishments of the mosaic laws ordinances, but you will be in danger of facing judgment and a fiery indignation.
Colossians 1:28
Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:
The law convicts a person if they're under the jurisdiction of the law.
Rom 3:19
Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
Christians are not under the law (Rom 8:2, Rom 10:4, Gal 3:35, Gal 5:18, 1Tim 1:9).
Hence we cannot be charged with sin/transgression of the law.
Rom 8:33
Who shall lay any thing (this includes sin) to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
2 Thessalonians 3:6
Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us.
Paul here says we are to remove ourselves from others who continue to believe they can walk disorderly in unrepented, or unconfessed sins. For they are not walking in the Spirit, but still walking after the flesh.
If your sins are unrepented of and not confessed then you are still under that jurisdiction.
In post # 2166 I showed verses on how Paul still upheld the commandments, and showed that if you are a believer you would do this to. You also would learn to abstain from every form of evil/sins. The Holy Spirit is the one who guides us to do this, if we still sin it is because we give into the flesh and not listen to the Spirit. How you go about it from here determines if you are a true born again believer, as a true born again believer will feel the Godly sorrow from the Holy Spirit leading them to confess it for forgiveness.
If you don't feel that Godly sorrow when you sin, I would have to question rather you have the Holy Spirit. For the Spirit will not lead you to do things that are contrary/enmity to God.
1 Thessalonians 4:7
For God did not call us to uncleanness, but in holiness.
If you are still walking in unrepented or unconfessed sins then you are walking in uncleanness and not holiness.
Your post #2166 does not support your claims.
And the unclean are those in unbelief. This includes leaglists who do not see themselves as being cleansed by Christ's blood unless they obey the law to some ambiguous minimum standard or keep their sin ledger perfectly balanced with confessions.
I'll be back again tonight as i'm off to work now.
"10 Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer. I tell you, the devil will put some of you in prison to test you, and you will suffer persecution for ten days. Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you life as your victor’s crown.
11 Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. The one who is victorious will not be hurt at all by the second death."
Revelation 2 has examples of those who don't endure to the end, and what Yahweh does to them.
What is the strength of sin according to Gods Word? The law...the Ten commandments produces sinful lust in the flesh...so the solution to sin is not the law of Moses...Its the finished Work of Jesus Christ....
Ro 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 ¶ What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
Wrong it does support my claims, as Paul is talking to believers in those passages.
He is telling believers over and over again what they can not do, and what things should be a part of their life.
Then in 1 Thessalonians 4:7 Paul says that if somebody considers themselves a believer, yet continues walking in the sins of the flesh then to separate yourself from them for they are still lost and are leading others in a lost state.
The only way to be a pure believer is to have your sins covered by the Lord's precious blood. Past ones get covered at time of baptism and repentance (Luke 13:3, Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38). Future sins get covered after they are committed and then confessed. (1 John)
how does the ten commandments...produce sinful lust????
James 1:13-15King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
[SUP]14 [/SUP]But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
....the reason one is delivered from the law is because they are dead...the law has no power over the dead...if you are dead your flesh cannot rule you ...so you follow the spirit and you do not fulfil the lust of the flesh...but if you obey the flesh then you are not dead but live according to the flesh and will be judged according to the flesh...by what law ...the law of commandment of course....you thought it was done away with..........the law of Christ does not condemn...