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Mitspa
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Right Paul explain s. That the law produces sinful lust and passions in all who are under the law. That they are in effect slaves to sin. but those of us under grace are slaves of righteousness.
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Right Paul explain s. That the law produces sinful lust and passions in all who are under the law. That they are in effect slaves to sin. but those of us under grace are slaves of righteousness.
Romans 13:1-2, "Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God."
Hosea 8:4, "They made kings, but not through me. They set up princes, but I knew it not. With their silver and gold they made idols for their own destruction."
Luke 4:5-6, "And the devil took him up and showed him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time, and said to him, “To you I will give all this authority and their glory, for it has been delivered to me, and I give it to whom I will."
Acts 4:26, "The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers were gathered together, against the Lord and against his Anointed."
Hosea 8:4, "They made kings, but not through me. They set up princes, but I knew it not. With their silver and gold they made idols for their own destruction."
Luke 4:5-6, "And the devil took him up and showed him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time, and said to him, “To you I will give all this authority and their glory, for it has been delivered to me, and I give it to whom I will."
Acts 4:26, "The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers were gathered together, against the Lord and against his Anointed."
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kennethcadwell
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I did not make anything up, as you can tell by what you highlighted in that verse.
If your sins are unrepented and unconfessed then you are still walking in uncleanness and not holiness. You are impure as Paul told Timothy , and then Paul said no impure person will inherit the kingdom of heaven.
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kennethcadwell
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No you see they don't want to realize God's moral laws still apply as they are written in our hearts.
They do not want accept and realize that, because if they did it would show that they are living impure lives in unrepented/unconfessed sins.
Apostle Paul says that born again believers are to abstain from every form of evil, yet they say they can still continue to sin because it is not imputed on them any more. They are blinded to the fact that confession has to be made first before His precious blood covers them.
No confession of future sins means you are being disobedient to the truth.
The other thing is all the different times Paul warns believers that they are to abstain from sins. Paul would not have spent a good portion of his epistles on that if sins did not matter any more to a believer.
And like I have said before, and will say again to them;
Read 1st and 2nd Timothy.
No, the Law does not, it is the human heart...
Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to kennethcadwell again.
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kennethcadwell
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Hebrews 3:12-14
Take care, brothers, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, leading you to fall away from the living God. But exhort one another every day, as long as it is called “today,” that none of you may be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin. For we have come to share in Christ, if indeed we hold our original confidence firm to the end.
Take care, brothers, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, leading you to fall away from the living God. But exhort one another every day, as long as it is called “today,” that none of you may be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin. For we have come to share in Christ, if indeed we hold our original confidence firm to the end.
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Mitspa
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What? come on Kenneth your just trying to add your ideas that you have formed in error to Gods Word and you seem to have little fear of changing the evident words of scripture to match your own error?
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Mitspa
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Try and read this again...."the strength of sin is the law"
Ro 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 ¶ What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of (evil desire)concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
1 Corinthians 5:11, "But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one."
Luke 15:1, "Now the tax collectors and sinners were all gathering around to hear Jesus. 2 But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law muttered, “This man welcomes sinners and eats with them."
Luke 15:1, "Now the tax collectors and sinners were all gathering around to hear Jesus. 2 But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law muttered, “This man welcomes sinners and eats with them."
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Mitspa
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Right the law is not of faith...the warning is to the "HEBREWS" not to turn back to the law of Moses....
Heb 4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
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kennethcadwell
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Apostle Paul talking to Apostle Timothy
1 Timothy 5:22
Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men's sins: keep thyself pure.
2 Timothy 2:21-26
21 If you keep yourself pure, you will be a utensil God can use for his purpose. Your life will be clean, and you will be ready for the Master to use you for every good work. 22 Run from anything that stimulates youthful lust. Follow anything that makes you want to do right. Pursue faith and love and peace, and enjoy the companionship of those who call on the Lord with pure hearts. 23Again I say, don't get involved in foolish, ignorant arguments that only start fights. 24 The Lord's servants must not quarrel but must be kind to everyone. They must be able to teach effectively and be patient with difficult people. 25 They should gently teach those who oppose the truth. Perhaps God will change those people's hearts, and they will believe the truth. 26 Then they will come to their senses and escape from the Devil's trap. For they have been held captive by him to do whatever he wants.
Then what Paul says about an impure person;
Ephesians 5:5
For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
(Being unclean is the same as being impure.)
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kennethcadwell
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Chapter 4 in Hebrews is about entering into the Sabbath rest that is in Jesus, and it says if you are disobedient you can not enter in. It calls disobedience back in chapter 3 as unbelief.
It is saying here that the gospel does not profit those who continue in disobedience, because they do not walk in light and do not listen to the guidance of the Holy Spirit to abstain from all sins.
that simply means if you don't sin the law have no power over you....and therefore not subject to it...but if you sin the law regains power over you.... exposes the sin and condemn you ....
1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
Seems simple to me, the Law defines sin. Paul thought it was pretty simple also...
Rom 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
Seems simple to me, the Law defines sin. Paul thought it was pretty simple also...
Rom 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
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kennethcadwell
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Paul gives multiple times lists of things that believers can not do, and if they do those things they are disobedient sons headed for destruction.
Heb 4:2, "For this message was preached to us, as well as to them; but the word which they heard did not benefit them, because they did not share in the faith of those who obeyed. "
Nothing in this world is real rest, The real rest is this:
Revelation 14:13, "And I heard a voice from heaven saying to me: Write: Blessed are the dead, the ones dying in the Messiah from now on! Yes, says the Spirit: because they will rest from their labors, and their works do follow them!"
Revelation 21:4-8 And Yahweh will wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there will be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, nor will there be any more pain, for the former things have passed away. And He Who sat upon the throne, said: Behold, I make all things new. And He said to me: Write, for these words are true and faithful.And He said to me: It is done! I am Aleph and Tau, the Beginning and the End. I will give to him who thirsts of the fountain of the water of life freely. He who overcomes will inherit all things; and I will be his Father, and he will be My son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and worshipers of false gods, and all liars, will have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone--which is the second death."
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Mitspa
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The rest taught the gospel is the fulfillment of the Sabbath...why do you think the "gospel" is mentioned...and what do you think it means to "cease from one owns works"?
Heb 4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
Heb 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
11 ¶ Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.