Good day, Rondonmon!
The woman is not a real would, but is symbolically representing Israel.
The woman being pregnant is not a real pregnancy, but is symbolically representing 144,000 believing Israelites coming out of the unbelieving nation of Israel.
The dragon is symbolic representing Satan
Since the woman being pregnant and giving birth are symbolic in meaning, this would demonstrate that her giving birth cannot be referring to Jesus' literal birth.
In addition, the Male Child is said to be 'caught up' to God and His throne. As I described in the previous post, the word 'harpazo' means a force suddenly exercised, a snatching up. That said, Jesus was not snatched up in the sense of that word. In keeping with the context, Jesus would have been devoured, where the Male Child was not, but was caught up to God's throne before He could do that. It wasn't until later that Jesus ascended to God's right hand, which is not the description of 'harpazo.'
There are three groups who are said will rule with and iron scepter:
1). Jesus: And from His mouth proceeds a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and He will rule them with an iron scepter - Revelation 19:15
2). Overcomers within the Church: And to the one who overcomes and continues in My work until the end, I will give authority over the nations. He will rule them with an iron scepter and shatter them like pottery"
3). The Male Child/144,000: And she gave birth to a son, a male child, who will rule all the nations with an iron scepter - Rev.12:5
Note: Remember, the woman is not literally giving birth, therefore it is not speaking about the literal birth of Jesus. Everything that is happening in Revelation 12 are future events which take place after the church been gathered.
All that said, the Male Child is a collective name symbolically representing the 144,000 Israelite believers who come out of the unbelieving nation of Israel, ergo, Israel gives birth to the 144,000.
Jesus as the Male Child is a common knee-jerk reaction because of the reference to Israel as the woman giving birth. However, they forget about the fact that everything described in that chapter, the woman, the dragon, the Male Child, are all symbolism. Simply put, if the woman is not a literal woman, then her pregnancy is not a literal pregnancy and neither is the child she gives birth to literal.
The Male Child = 144,000 who come out of (gives birth to) the unbelieving nation of Israel
The woman is not a real would, but is symbolically representing Israel.
The woman being pregnant is not a real pregnancy, but is symbolically representing 144,000 believing Israelites coming out of the unbelieving nation of Israel.
The dragon is symbolic representing Satan
Since the woman being pregnant and giving birth are symbolic in meaning, this would demonstrate that her giving birth cannot be referring to Jesus' literal birth.
In addition, the Male Child is said to be 'caught up' to God and His throne. As I described in the previous post, the word 'harpazo' means a force suddenly exercised, a snatching up. That said, Jesus was not snatched up in the sense of that word. In keeping with the context, Jesus would have been devoured, where the Male Child was not, but was caught up to God's throne before He could do that. It wasn't until later that Jesus ascended to God's right hand, which is not the description of 'harpazo.'
There are three groups who are said will rule with and iron scepter:
1). Jesus: And from His mouth proceeds a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and He will rule them with an iron scepter - Revelation 19:15
2). Overcomers within the Church: And to the one who overcomes and continues in My work until the end, I will give authority over the nations. He will rule them with an iron scepter and shatter them like pottery"
3). The Male Child/144,000: And she gave birth to a son, a male child, who will rule all the nations with an iron scepter - Rev.12:5
Note: Remember, the woman is not literally giving birth, therefore it is not speaking about the literal birth of Jesus. Everything that is happening in Revelation 12 are future events which take place after the church been gathered.
All that said, the Male Child is a collective name symbolically representing the 144,000 Israelite believers who come out of the unbelieving nation of Israel, ergo, Israel gives birth to the 144,000.
Jesus as the Male Child is a common knee-jerk reaction because of the reference to Israel as the woman giving birth. However, they forget about the fact that everything described in that chapter, the woman, the dragon, the Male Child, are all symbolism. Simply put, if the woman is not a literal woman, then her pregnancy is not a literal pregnancy and neither is the child she gives birth to literal.
The Male Child = 144,000 who come out of (gives birth to) the unbelieving nation of Israel
The 144,000 is not a real number my brother, it's Symbolism also, just as God uses 12 for Fulness and 10 for Completeness, we can see that 12 x 12 x 10 x 10 x 10 = 144,000 it's pure SYMBOLISM. We know that more than 144,000 Jews repent, we see that in Zechariah 13:8-9, where 1/3 of the Jews repent, and 2/3 refuse to repent and thus perish. So, just the 6 million Jews in Israel today would mean 2 million Jews flee Judea, these "144,000" in Rev. 7 are the Jews Jesus forewarned to flee Judea when they saw the AoD in Matthew 24:15-17. If more Jews pour into Israel then it could be more who flee from Judea to the Petra/Bozrah area.
Israel birthed Jesus, Satan took 1/3 of the Angels into rebellion with him. The Rev. 12 chapter has zero to do with the Rapture brother, that happens pre trib anyway. The Seals DO NOTHING they are just Jesus opening the Judgment book, then Prophesying whats about to befall mankind over the coming 42 months.