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ZNP

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Sorry Z.

I got no choice but to agree with Kroogz.

Your boy who cried wolf, the end is days away, posts have absolutely become nothing but white noise.

And that’s dangerous because when some mostly reliable intel comes that could be helpful, it will be ignored.
How do you separate the sound of the Lord's trumpet from white noise?

https://rumble.com/v6sv9jf-how-do-you-separate-the-sound-of-the-lords-trumpet-from-white-noise.html

Youtube is filled with videos crying that some terrible thing is about to happen. "If it bleeds it leads" is the saying in the news industry. So with all this fear porn how do you separate out the genuine warning from the Lord from all the white noise?
 

ZNP

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Truck Drivers Are GIVING UP After TARIFFS And EMPTY PORTS In 2025

It is cheaper to send goods by train than by truck, so the Ports losing 35% of their traffic will hit truckers much harder, perhaps 70% of the 18 wheelers going cross country will lose jobs.
 

shittim

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Until our factories start shipping from manufacturers to ports.
If that is His plan as these last of the last days continue to unfold and He redeems His creation.
blessings
 

ZNP

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Initially China thought that only 30% of their exports were to the US. However, the EU is also putting heavy tariffs on China and it turns out that whatever is not to the US or the EU for the most part goes to other countries who are in the supply chain and ultimately the product goes to the US or the EU. Even if China only makes part of an item that is exported to the US they can't afford a 245% tariff on that item. So the exports are being hit much harder than initially being anticipated. Also, they thought they had a lot of domestic demand as well. The problem is that when all these manufacturing jobs go bust the domestic demand also goes bust. Also, note that you can't keep oil and gas prices high when the ships are docked in port and no one is traveling by airplane. If shipping is down, travel is down, unemployment is up, inflation is up, then demand for oil and gas will drop. That hits Russia and Iran in their tenders, they fully depend on oil exports.

I say all this because it helps illuminate why Trump would see the need for this massive tariff war.

On the flip side everyone should understand that wars are fought because if you don't the streets will be filled with protestors who want the rulers heads just like the French Revolution. On the one hand what Trump is doing makes strategic sense in the context of world war, on the other hand what Trump is doing is confirming that we fighting a world war.
 

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China's Media Admits: 82 Trillion Financial Crisis | Chinese Economy: Deflation | US-China Trade War

"Banks are overwhelmed"

760% increase in bad loans in the last 12 months.

China’s Biggest Powder Keg Explodes, 4 Rebellions in One Day, People Resist the CCP

 

ZNP

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It is a near certainty that you are underestimating how corrupt the system is.

In the movie "The Big Short" they follow three hedge funds that bet against the sub prime mortgage market and won big. In one spot this guy refers to one of these funds as "America's most cynical hedge fund". But even with these people who assumed they were crooks, even they did not appreciate how corrupt they really were.

Here is why I say this. I have learned how incredibly leveraged these companies are shorting the gold and silver market. I was a broker and you had to have your shorts "covered". That means we were always looking to sell people out in the event they were about to go belly up. A naked short was a scary thing. Generally you could sell short twice the amount of stock you had. Suppose some stock hit $100 a share and you had 100 shares. You could sell two hundred shares, meaning you are now short 100 shares. You get 20k for that sale but if that stock you sold goes to $150 we will demand you cover that short. You can lose money on your bet, but the brokerage firm is not going to lose money.

Now consider gold and silver, the ratio is ridiculous, like 100:1 to as much as 250:1. That means they are selling an ounce of gold on paper to 250 people and yet they only own 1 ounce of gold. Why would they do that? They will go bankrupt. Yes, but "they" is a corporation, not the individuals. Suppose the CEO owns $100 million worth of stock in the company, if the go bankrupt he loses it all. Now suppose the company he is CEO of is short $10 billion worth of gold. That is 100x what he could do with his $100 million. Yes, he'll lose that but he is helping all his friends to buy gold cheaply because he is short $10 billion. Those people in turn will reimburse him for his $100 million when his company goes bankrupt. I used to wonder why do CEO's who drove their company into bankruptcy get hired immediately to be CEO of another company. Because driving that company into bankruptcy made the board of directors on the other companies rich and they are repaying the favor. Why do you think some big fat loser of a CEO gets a fat bonus to go work for this other company after bankrupting the first? Because it is legal to reimburse him for the inside info he gave them. The point is all the people who think they own gold and silver on paper are the ones who lose, the CEO and other chief executives have golden parachutes and bankrupting their company might be their plan on how they themselves can get rich.

Consider the Big Short. I thought, surely the chief officials at these investment banks understood that what they were doing was not sustainable and would result in bankruptcy. Why would they do it? The answer was they knew the US government would bail them out, they had a trump card they could play in Washington DC that would force the US government to bail them out without anyone going to jail.

 

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It is a near certainty that you are underestimating how corrupt the system is.
FWIW, I don't think I'm underestimating the corruption. I admit I don't understand all details of the schemes, and some of what you write is enlightening re: the details, but when I write things like #2,089, which I rarely do, I mean things are so far gone that they've reached the boundaries of what God allows. More and more things are just working at those boundaries.