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ZNP

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Sorry Z.

I got no choice but to agree with Kroogz.

Your boy who cried wolf, the end is days away, posts have absolutely become nothing but white noise.

And that’s dangerous because when some mostly reliable intel comes that could be helpful, it will be ignored.
How do you separate the sound of the Lord's trumpet from white noise?

https://rumble.com/v6sv9jf-how-do-you-separate-the-sound-of-the-lords-trumpet-from-white-noise.html

Youtube is filled with videos crying that some terrible thing is about to happen. "If it bleeds it leads" is the saying in the news industry. So with all this fear porn how do you separate out the genuine warning from the Lord from all the white noise?
 

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Truck Drivers Are GIVING UP After TARIFFS And EMPTY PORTS In 2025

It is cheaper to send goods by train than by truck, so the Ports losing 35% of their traffic will hit truckers much harder, perhaps 70% of the 18 wheelers going cross country will lose jobs.
 

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Until our factories start shipping from manufacturers to ports.
If that is His plan as these last of the last days continue to unfold and He redeems His creation.
blessings
 

ZNP

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Initially China thought that only 30% of their exports were to the US. However, the EU is also putting heavy tariffs on China and it turns out that whatever is not to the US or the EU for the most part goes to other countries who are in the supply chain and ultimately the product goes to the US or the EU. Even if China only makes part of an item that is exported to the US they can't afford a 245% tariff on that item. So the exports are being hit much harder than initially being anticipated. Also, they thought they had a lot of domestic demand as well. The problem is that when all these manufacturing jobs go bust the domestic demand also goes bust. Also, note that you can't keep oil and gas prices high when the ships are docked in port and no one is traveling by airplane. If shipping is down, travel is down, unemployment is up, inflation is up, then demand for oil and gas will drop. That hits Russia and Iran in their tenders, they fully depend on oil exports.

I say all this because it helps illuminate why Trump would see the need for this massive tariff war.

On the flip side everyone should understand that wars are fought because if you don't the streets will be filled with protestors who want the rulers heads just like the French Revolution. On the one hand what Trump is doing makes strategic sense in the context of world war, on the other hand what Trump is doing is confirming that we fighting a world war.
 

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China's Media Admits: 82 Trillion Financial Crisis | Chinese Economy: Deflation | US-China Trade War

"Banks are overwhelmed"

760% increase in bad loans in the last 12 months.

China’s Biggest Powder Keg Explodes, 4 Rebellions in One Day, People Resist the CCP

 

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Assets Halved, Mortgage Defaults Soar! Bank Bankruptcy Wave Sweeps Across China

 

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It is a near certainty that you are underestimating how corrupt the system is.

In the movie "The Big Short" they follow three hedge funds that bet against the sub prime mortgage market and won big. In one spot this guy refers to one of these funds as "America's most cynical hedge fund". But even with these people who assumed they were crooks, even they did not appreciate how corrupt they really were.

Here is why I say this. I have learned how incredibly leveraged these companies are shorting the gold and silver market. I was a broker and you had to have your shorts "covered". That means we were always looking to sell people out in the event they were about to go belly up. A naked short was a scary thing. Generally you could sell short twice the amount of stock you had. Suppose some stock hit $100 a share and you had 100 shares. You could sell two hundred shares, meaning you are now short 100 shares. You get 20k for that sale but if that stock you sold goes to $150 we will demand you cover that short. You can lose money on your bet, but the brokerage firm is not going to lose money.

Now consider gold and silver, the ratio is ridiculous, like 100:1 to as much as 250:1. That means they are selling an ounce of gold on paper to 250 people and yet they only own 1 ounce of gold. Why would they do that? They will go bankrupt. Yes, but "they" is a corporation, not the individuals. Suppose the CEO owns $100 million worth of stock in the company, if the go bankrupt he loses it all. Now suppose the company he is CEO of is short $10 billion worth of gold. That is 100x what he could do with his $100 million. Yes, he'll lose that but he is helping all his friends to buy gold cheaply because he is short $10 billion. Those people in turn will reimburse him for his $100 million when his company goes bankrupt. I used to wonder why do CEO's who drove their company into bankruptcy get hired immediately to be CEO of another company. Because driving that company into bankruptcy made the board of directors on the other companies rich and they are repaying the favor. Why do you think some big fat loser of a CEO gets a fat bonus to go work for this other company after bankrupting the first? Because it is legal to reimburse him for the inside info he gave them. The point is all the people who think they own gold and silver on paper are the ones who lose, the CEO and other chief executives have golden parachutes and bankrupting their company might be their plan on how they themselves can get rich.

Consider the Big Short. I thought, surely the chief officials at these investment banks understood that what they were doing was not sustainable and would result in bankruptcy. Why would they do it? The answer was they knew the US government would bail them out, they had a trump card they could play in Washington DC that would force the US government to bail them out without anyone going to jail.

 

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It is a near certainty that you are underestimating how corrupt the system is.
FWIW, I don't think I'm underestimating the corruption. I admit I don't understand all details of the schemes, and some of what you write is enlightening re: the details, but when I write things like #2,089, which I rarely do, I mean things are so far gone that they've reached the boundaries of what God allows. More and more things are just working at those boundaries.
 

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FWIW, I don't think I'm underestimating the corruption. I admit I don't understand all details of the schemes, and some of what you write is enlightening re: the details, but when I write things like #2,089, which I rarely do, I mean things are so far gone that they've reached the boundaries of what God allows. More and more things are just working at those boundaries.
I wasn't speaking of anyone in particular, only that in that movie that 0.1% who were betting the whole system was corrupt was still caught by complete surprise at how corrupt they really were.
 

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I wasn't speaking of anyone in particular, only that in that movie that 0.1% who were betting the whole system was corrupt was still caught by complete surprise at how corrupt they really were.
Thanks. Just answering for myself not thinking you were referring to me.
 

ZNP

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Over the last 12 months the S&P 500 index is up almost 12%. If we had 2-3% inflation which is the target that would be a very healthy return. However, it is very hard to know how bad the inflation has been as they keep changing the metrics. Therefore I use gold as a standard of value. I don't think you should look over a small time frame. But if we compare gold and the S&P 500 over the last 3 years there is no reason why you should be investing in the S&P 500. You could have gotten a much better return, at no time would you have gotten a worse return. Also, when you buy a stock all kinds of things can cause that company to go bust. In all of human history that has never happened to gold. So there is far more risk with stocks and so you should see far more reward. There isn't, there is less.

It gets worse if we consider gold to be a standard of value and set it to 0. In that case putting your money into the stock market has caused you to lose money.

Now if we go out ten years, a time period where the stock market is supposed to outperform everything, you will see that the S&P 500 has ever so slightly outperformed gold. But here is the problem, it is a basket of stocks, every time a company falls out of the S&P 500 it must be sold and another company bought. So on a yearly basis you will have a small tax liability for holding the fund and a small management fee. These both may seem quite small, but almost certainly they erase any gains that the market had on gold. This means all you have done these last ten years is tread water. There was no reward at all, so why take all that risk?
 

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Good News!

Bond yields are up! If they keep going up soon they will be paying more than inflation. Oh wait, this means the US has to pay more interest on the $36.5 trillion debt. Sorry, scratch that.
 

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Riots Sweep China as Citizens Clash With Police Tear Gas; Economic Collapse Pushes People to Despair
 
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The best attack anyone has made on this thread is to point out that our treasure is in heaven, and we should not be anxious in anything. I agree 100%. I did not start this thread because I was anxious or because I was concerned about the US economy.

I started it because of the book of Joel. According to that book I understood the Pandemic in 2020 as being the event that is "right next door" to the day of the Lord. The term in Joel is "the Day of the Lord is at hand" but that word for at hand means "next door". Based on that when Fauci was evasive, he obfuscated and prevaricated, I didn't need to know why, I decided whatever it was I don't trust him and so I do not trust the vaccine. That was four years ago and we still don't have conclusive proof, but there are 800 million people missing in China and they all were required to get every single shot and booster they had to give. My attitude was I will wait ten years to see if this thing is truly safe and in the meantime I am thankful so many people are willing to be guinea pigs in this experiment. But to not trust Fauci is one thing, it required that my wife and I both leave our jobs, sell our house and move.

I don't think you should consider fair criticism as an "attack." @Kroogz and @PennEd truthfully point out that you've been calling for the sky to fall in this thread for what is quickly approaching three years. You consistently misinterpret what you consider to be 'signs of the times' and then conveniently forget that you were completely wrong. It's like having the reincarnation of Chuck Missler in our midst.

I clicked back to your earliest posts here and read where you sold your house and advised your wife's coworker to sell her million dollars worth of Bitcoin. umm.... that would be worth over $5million today. I hope she ignored your counsel.

btw-- China has a population of 1.4 Billion. You are now stating that more than half of them are missing.

Please. Take a breath, and take account of the things you say here. Maybe some humility and a pause are in order. Maybe it's time this thread met the end of days. Seriously.
 

ZNP

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btw-- China has a population of 1.4 Billion. You are now stating that more than half of them are missing.

Please. Take a breath, and take account of the things you say here. Maybe some humility and a pause are in order. Maybe it's time this thread met the end of days. Seriously.
No, I am not stating that. I am quoting what the W.H.O stated and what Elon Musk stated using Grok to make an estimate.

Maybe you should take a breath and read what is actually posted rather than misquoting and mischaracterizing what I said.