The "Impossible" Gospel

[dcontroversal]

We've been through Is.53 before. I have addressed your points and you have ignored mine.
God sent Jesus to us to call us to repentance, because we are sinners, and He was tortured and killed because of this. He didn't cave in. In this way God was pleased with His offering. God wasn't transferring our sins onto Son and abusing Him.

"Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered and being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him; He.5:9-10

Jesus wasn't in fear of or being forsaken by God when He cried out the words David spoke by the Spirit...identifying Himself as the Messiah.

Again you prove your ignorance of truth....

HE BECAME SIN FOR US...YES GOD DID transfer our sin to HIM! Again, I suggest you revamp your theology and start studying the word instead of regurgitating the view you have been taught by men who have no understanding!

 

[Elin]

The "determinate counsel" of God, which He knew before is that He would come in the flesh
teaching us about Himself and be killed because of it.
This was not His will:

You don't have a clue about the meaning of "determinate counsel."

You could use a good dictionary.

And all the absurd word juggling of your unbelief which denies that

Jesus came to die as a ransom for the sins of many (Mt 20:28, 26:28; Jn 10:11)

betrays the unorthodox sect of your religious persuasion.

 

[Elin]

He that hateth me hateth my Father also. Jn.15:23

Christianity today: "It must be God's will for us to hate Him?"

Nothing transpires apart from God's will, not even the fall of a sparrow to the ground.

 

[dcontroversal]

Do you realize the entirety of this law? This is actually pretty merciful if you look in the Talmud at the whole thing. You say they had to have two or three witnesses. Under Jewish law it is VERY difficult to convict someone who is Jewish. There are a lot of regulations that surround this. Deuteronomy 19:15 is where this is found if anyone is curious. If there is only one witness it cannot stand. Also blood relatives are not allowed to be witnesses or judges in the same case (Sanhedrin chapter 3). Also if there is any witness who is established by other witnesses as a liar or robber or other miscreant they become invalid. A general rule of thumb is that if one person among the group of witnesses is disqualified, they are all disqualified. If two other witnesses appear and directly contradict the two other witness testimony than that pair of witness becomes invalid. The valid witness must be an adult free man, not a woman or a slave, and must be an honest person who can be trusted not to lie. According to the Mishnah the following people are disqualified: a gambler with dice, a lender who collects interest, a chaser of doves and a merchant who profits from produce of Shemittah. It states that these four activities fall within an expanded definition of theft because people who violate Torah laws or social norms in pursuit of money cannot be trusted to tell the truth.

So now that you understand what is involved in sentencing someone to death for violating a law maybe you can answer a question for me. If your child/wife/mother/beloved family member was found murdered and two witnesses appeared before the Sanhedrin to bear testimony about who did the murder and the Sanhedrin found them to be honest witnesses, would you still have a problem with carrying out the punishment that is due for a murderer?

You know, God ordains laws and governments to work his will on this earth and I would have no problem with the sentencing to death of a murderer who was found guilty under the banner of two (trust worthy) witnesses and that doesn't mean that I would not forgive them....and yes I do understand the concept of mercy as found under the banner of 2 or 3 credible witnesses and even the cities of refuge.....but that is not the point as MERCY under the LAW is not found as the law CONDEMNS every man, woman and child under the banner of SIN and the result of sin is DEATH.....JESUS satisfied the LAW before the Heavenly FATHER and my bible teaches me that MERCY and GRACE came by JESUS and not the LAW as the LAW concludes ALL under SIN and under the banner of CONDEMNATION!

 

[Elin]

EX.20:6.
But showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments.

Who does this sound like????
John 14:15.

Abraham was an excellent example of being a man that kept the Commandments.
Gen.26:5.
- but Abraham's weaknesses are made manifest in the scriptures.
likewise, Zacharias and his wife were credited as being Commandment keepers.
His weakness was clearly revealed that he was just a man, when Gabriel corrected him.
Luke 1:20.
But behold, you will be mute and not able to speak until the day these things take place,
because you did not believe my words which will be fulfilled in there own time.

God surely does understand the fallibility of man, therefore grace and mercy
are woven into the scriptures from Genesis to Revelation.

how can we not praise and thank our King?

Yes, thank God for Jesus the Christ our King by whom is all grace and mercy for those who believe in him.

 

[dcontroversal]

You don't have a clue about the meaning of "determinate counsel."

You could use a good dictionary.

And all the absurd word juggling of your unbelief which denies that

Jesus came to die as a ransom for the sins of many (Mt 20:28, 26:28; Jn 10:11)

betrays the unorthodox sect of your religious persuasion.

No doubt, and I agree for sure.......kind of like the pots and pans comment and honoring our parents.....and about God's will for us to hate him....foolish for sure!

 

[Elin]

Remember in my OP that it was stated that
there are only 3 kinds of believers:

#1) Great in the Kingdom,
#2) Least in the Kingdom, and
#3) REJECTED from the Kingdom.

Actually, anyone rejected from the kingdom was not a true believer in the first place.

His faith was counterfeit.

Yep. A counterfeit faith consists of those who follow the Impossible Gospel

The Gospel Impossible to save is any gospel of salvation by anything other than faith only.

Tit 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate (condemning good works...Torah).

Not according to the NT where we are in the new covenant
and under the law of Christ (Mt 22:37-39)
(without all the myriad regulations of the law of Moses),
as spoken by the Son in these last days (Heb 1:1-2)
through the NT writers in the commands and exhortations of the NT.

 

[crossnote]

both...

Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:
(Act 2:23)

The "determinate counsel" of God, which He knew before is that He would come in the flesh teaching us about Himself and be killed because of it. This was not His will:

That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father...Jn.5:23

It was the biggest slap in the face to God there could ever be. It was an indictment., but even in their evil, God turned it for good.

Isaiah 53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

Acts 4:27-28 For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together,
For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done.

Can't get much clearer than that.

 

[crossnote]

both...

Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:
(Act 2:23)

He that hateth me hateth my Father also. Jn.15:23

Christianity today: "It must be God's will for us to hate Him?"

Logical fallacy. non sequiter.

 

[just-me]

So being Jesus was included in the Torah and told of in the Torah, we must eliminate the Torah? This "law" you say the Torah consists of is summed up in the words of scripture "you can't keep it"? When we are told that and also told that we must keep law in the same scripture, have you ever thought about how both can be the same message from the same God? How about using keeping it as a way to salvation instead of using Christ for salvation, don't you think that is something we need to know and does not conflict with the message to keep it?

I so wish the church would sit humbly before the Lord and just listen to scripture without all this deciding for themselves what it says!! God is superior.

It is true that the flesh cannot keep the law. If we are guilty of one infraction, we are guilty of all. If we have the indwelling Spirit we begin to see the law in the Spiritual aspects as it was intended and the fleshly mind is no longer applicable to the physical attributes of the law. Therefore, the law of God hasn't changed because He doesn't change. (*Malachi 3:6) Jesus Christ came to change us, not what our Father in heaven has said in the law that He gave to Moses. That is how these 3 verses are to be understood.

"For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be". (Romans 8:5-7)

If a person cannot see beyond the physical aspects of the law given to Moses, and continues to talk it down by saying it has been replaced or changed through Christ, this truth will tell them what kind of mind they have. By the proclamation of their doctrine, via renunciation against the unchanging doctrine from the beginning, clearly reveals a carnal mindset. Time to wake up people. The day of the Lord is close at hand.
*"Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise." (John 5:19)

 

[WomanLovesTX]

The Gospel Impossible to save is any gospel of salvation by anything other than faith only.


Not according to the NT where we are in the new covenant
and under the law of Christ (Mt 22:37-39)
(without all the myriad regulations of the law of Moses),
as spoken by the Son in these last days (Heb 1:1-2)
through the NT writers in the commands and exhortations of the NT.

"Faith only"

Faith to know Y'shua came to save the lost sheep of the House of Israel by being both God and man, by dying and resurrecting so that His people could be brought back into the Kingdom of God.

Rom 7:1 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
Rom 7:2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
Rom 7:3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
Rom 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
Rom 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
Rom 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

AND THAT "LAW" THAT IS BEING SPOKEN OF:

Deu 24:1 When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house.
Deu 24:2 And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife.
Deu 24:3 And if the latter husband hate her, and write her a bill of divorcement, and giveth it in her hand, and sendeth her out of his house; or if the latter husband die, which took her to be his wife;
Deu 24:4 Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before the LORD: and thou shalt not cause the land to sin, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance

What is the New Covenant?

Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

Mat_10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Mat_15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

So those who know the law (as Paul stated) will understand the law of marriage, divorce and remarry.

Will God remarry the House of Israel? Absolutely yes!! This is the great mystery Paul brought to the "gentiles" who are of the House of Israel and through Paul's letters is still reaching the lost sheep of the House of Israel and also to any who want to join Israel and keep the commandments (which is how we are known to be of YHWH, which God is ours).

Do you have failth only that says you are saved and now you desire to bring forth good fruit, as defined by scripture, good fruit is living, keeping, guarding our Husbands "laws" of His household? Y'shua's gospel is not just about Himself, but about His Kingdom and those who will be in the Kingdom and those who will not be in the Kingdom.

 

[crossnote]

both...

Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:
(Act 2:23)

It is true that the flesh cannot keep the law. If we are guilty of one infraction, we are guilty of all. If we have the indwelling Spirit we begin to see the law in the Spiritual aspects as it was intended and the fleshly mind is no longer applicable to the physical attributes of the law. Therefore, the law of God hasn't changed because He doesn't change. (*Malachi 3:6) Jesus Christ came to change us, not what our Father in heaven has said in the law that He gave to Moses. That is how these 3 verses are to be understood.

"For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be". (Romans 8:5-7)

If a person cannot see beyond the physical aspects of the law given to Moses, and continues to talk it down by saying it has been replaced or changed through Christ, this truth will tell them what kind of mind they have. By the proclamation of their doctrine, via renunciation against the unchanging doctrine from the beginning, clearly reveals a carnal mindset. Time to wake up people. The day of the Lord is close at hand.
*"Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise." (John 5:19)

yes it is time to wake up. wake up and see that the law has been transferred from stone to fleshly tablets of heart as it has been newly inscribed on our hearts in the new birth...we have a new nature which would not contradict His moral law.

 

[crossnote]

"Faith only"

Faith to know Y'shua came to save the lost sheep of the House of Israel by being both God and man, by dying and resurrecting so that His people could be brought back into the Kingdom of God.

Rom 7:1 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
Rom 7:2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
Rom 7:3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
Rom 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
Rom 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
Rom 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

AND THAT "LAW" THAT IS BEING SPOKEN OF:

Deu 24:1 When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house.
Deu 24:2 And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife.
Deu 24:3 And if the latter husband hate her, and write her a bill of divorcement, and giveth it in her hand, and sendeth her out of his house; or if the latter husband die, which took her to be his wife;
Deu 24:4 Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before the LORD: and thou shalt not cause the land to sin, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance

What is the New Covenant?

Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

Mat_10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Mat_15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

So those who know the law (as Paul stated) will understand the law of marriage, divorce and remarry.

Will God remarry the House of Israel? Absolutely yes!! This is the great mystery Paul brought to the "gentiles" who are of the House of Israel and through Paul's letters is still reaching the lost sheep of the House of Israel and also to any who want to join Israel and keep the commandments (which is how we are known to be of YHWH, which God is ours).

Do you have failth only that says you are saved and now you desire to bring forth good fruit, as defined by scripture, good fruit is living, keeping, guarding our Husbands "laws" of His household? Y'shua's gospel is not just about Himself, but about His Kingdom and those who will be in the Kingdom and those who will not be in the Kingdom.

Gentiles are not Israel. No Two House heresy here.

 

[dcontroversal]

Isaiah 53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

Acts 4:27-28 For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together,
For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done.

Can't get much clearer than that.

No doubt about that for sure.....amazingly simple to understand, but conflated with human reasoning and a misapplication of truth for sure!

 

[jdbear]

Again you prove your ignorance of truth....

HE BECAME SIN FOR US...YES GOD DID transfer our sin to HIM! Again, I suggest you revamp your theology and start studying the word instead of regurgitating the view you have been taught by men who have no understanding!

Again you prove your ignorance of truth....
HE BECAME SIN FOR US...YES GOD DID transfer our sin to HIM! Again, I suggest you revamp your theology and start studying the word instead of regurgitating the view you have been taught by men who have no understanding!

The view I was taught by men is the one you now hold, bastardizing the true gospel:


" For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin...

If Jesus "KNEW NO SIN", how does God make Him to be sin? Is it by God transferring our sins onto an innocent Man?

Does God hold the guiltless guilty? docontroversal...does God condemn the innocent in place of the guilty???

"...every man shall be put to death for HIS OWN SIN." De.24:16

"but every man shall be put to death for HIS OWN SIN" 2 Ki.14:6

You have a major problem, [/U]BECAUSE SCRIPTURE CANNOT BE BROKEN.[/U]

So, how did God make Jesus to be sin since Jesus had no sin, BECAUSE EVERY MAN WILL BE PUT TO DEATH FOR HIS OWN SIN?

GOD MADE JESUS APPEAR AS SINFUL IN THE EYES OF THOSE WHO BEHELD HIM.

BECAUSE

"...for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:"

Why?

"AND IF HE HATH COMMITTED A SIN WORTHY OF DEATH, and he be to be put to death, and thou hang him on a tree: De.21:22

JESUS DID NOT COMMIT A SIN WORTHY OF DEATH. and since God holds every man accountable for his own sin, He "made Him to be sin for us' this way:

"...WE ESTEEMED HIM smitten of God, and afflicted. Is.53:4

God didn't think of Jesus as sinful. The people did. He was executed with sinners:

"And he made his grave with the wicked..." Is.53:9

"And with him they crucify two thieves; the one on his right hand, and the other on his left. And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors." Mk.15:27-28

He was viewed as sinful because He was executed with criminals...NOT BECAUSE OUR SINS WERE TRANSFERRED ONTO HIM, How unjust Christianity has made God. WAKE UP.

 

[jdbear]

Originally posted by Elin
You don't have a clue about the meaning of "determinate counsel."

The determinate counsel of God says every man....every man....every man will be put to death for his own sin, not the sins of someone else. Now, once you shake the brain fart out of your head, we can discuss the rest of your of your misunderstanding.

 

[WomanLovesTX]

Gentiles are not Israel. No Two House heresy here.

Gentiles certainly are Israel, if they choose to join, evidenced by their obedience to the commandments and have the testimony of Y'shua.

Gen_48:19 And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations.

Multitude = Hebrew fullness
Nations - Hebrew Gentile

Rom_11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Paul is referring to Israel's blessing on Ephraim. When House of Israel was disobedient, then subsequently divorced by God, they were captured and spread out around the world, forgetting where they came from.

Why do you distance yourself from Israel?

 

[jdbear]

Originally posted by Elin
You could use a good dictionary.
And all the absurd word juggling of your unbelief which denies that
Jesus came to die as a ransom for the sins of many (Mt 20:28, 26:28; Jn 10:11)
betrays the unorthodox sect of your religious persuasion.

Screw orthodoxy:

For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. Mt 26:28

Why Lord? Is it because God is going to punish You for our sins, or because You're leaving us an example?

And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant: Mt.20:27

"For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins." Mt 26:28

Why Lord? Is it because God is going to punish You for our sins, or because You're leaving us an example?

"Drink ye all of it; Mt.26:27

"I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep." Jn.10:11

Why Lord? Is it because God is going to punish You for our sins?

And I will very gladly spend and be spent for you; though the more abundantly I love you, the less I be loved. 2 Co.12:15

That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death; Phil.3:10

So Jesus came here to lead us to God...through His life and death, not to be punished by God for our sins.

 

[just-me]

Gentiles certainly are Israel, if they choose to join, evidenced by their obedience to the commandments and have the testimony of Y'shua.

Gen_48:19 And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations.

Multitude = Hebrew fullness
Nations - Hebrew Gentile

Rom_11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Paul is referring to Israel's blessing on Ephraim. When House of Israel was disobedient, then subsequently divorced by God, they were captured and spread out around the world, forgetting where they came from.

Why do you distance yourself from Israel?

To the Jew first and also to the Gentile. To the Jew first and also to the Greek. Amen.

 

[dcontroversal]

DUDE, your blindness is obvious.....and my quote stands as it is you and your rejection of what actually took place that belies your blind ignorance for sure....

For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin...<-----knew no sin, but was made to be SIN
...in that he died, he died UNTO SIN ONCE<----that wages of SIN, OUR SIN IS DEATH

I suggest you study the word MADE...here I will help as it means to.....

MAKE, APPOINT, band together, to bear, to commit, to cause

Again, I suggest you open your eyes as your view alleviates what actually took place and teaches heresy...

For he hath MADE him to be SIN for us
For he hath APPOINTED him to be sin for us
For he hath to BEAR SIN for US
For he hath committed him to be SIN for us

John 1:29 Behold the LAMB of GOD, which taketh, (beareth) away the SIN OF THE WORLD

It is also obvious you lack understanding how in type and picture the sins of the PEOPE WERE TRANSFERRED TO THE LAMB that was SLAIN by the HIGH PRIEST under the SACRIFICAL SYSTEM IN THE O.T. which points to Christ

Hebrews 9:28 SO Christ was once offered to BEAR the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the SECOND TIME WITHOUT SIN unto SALVATION.

Just a hand full of scriptures that contradict your erroneous view...I suggest two things....

1. Study MORE
2. If your going to open your mouth, know what you are talking about!

The view I was taught by men is the one you now hold, bastardizing the true gospel:


" For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin...

If Jesus "KNEW NO SIN", how does God make Him to be sin? Is it by God transferring our sins onto an innocent Man?

He was viewed as sinful because He was executed with criminals...NOT BECAUSE OUR SINS WERE TRANSFERRED ONTO HIM, How unjust Christianity has made God. WAKE UP.