I have studied it extensively. The Lord used both terms because both kingdoms were at hand during his earthly ministry. The kingdom of heaven being physical rule on earth, the kingdom of God being the spiritual kingdom or righteousness that lives within the believer. Do you believe the word God and heaven are synonymous? Things that are different are not the same.
The kingdom of God is not coming with signs that can be observed?
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I have studied it extensively. The Lord used both terms because both kingdoms were at hand during his earthly ministry. The kingdom of heaven being physical rule on earth, the kingdom of God being the spiritual kingdom or righteousness that lives within the believer. Do you believe the word God and heaven are synonymous? Things that are different are not the same.
yes, i think it is about the Kingdom he sets on earth on his return.
Blessings,
JF
I believe by experience that the wicked seek signs in order to believe, yet all who already believe experience signs and wonders.
When we believe God, He shows us He isin charge one way or another.
The Scriptures point out there are the same . Please use the Scripture to point out what you believe to be different in the Kingdom of Heaven and the Kingdom of God . I gave scripture support in posts # 37 and 40
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. God and heaven are not interchangeable.
Answer me this, when the Lord was speaking, did he literally say kingdom of heaven or kingdom of God? Did Matthew hear one thing and Luke heard another? Or...through the Holy Spirit, were they lead to write exactly what they wrote each for a specific reason?
Mat 19:14 But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.
Luk 18:16 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.
Your dogma means more to you then the Word of God . The words are interchangeable you choose not to believe .
My King James Bible trumps all those.
Your KJV is an idol that legalistic people love to shove in other believers' faces because they are smart enough to choose a translation they actually understand.
This discussion is over.
you make an excellent point that has fascinated me for a long time now. i see God working in a miraculous way almost daily. it's not necessarily someone is healed or something is done that humanity could not do, but it's little things by just observing nature and things.
then i know some i witness to tell me, if i would see just one miracle i would believe. but they were in a car wreck where everyone died but them, they had things happen for them that they dismissed as coincidence. and i say, you have seen signs that God exist. you are just blind and will remain blind until you want to see God from deep within your soul.
Are the two words the same here? Did God create God or heaven?
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Same here? Did God call the firmament God? or Heaven?
Genesis 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
I could go on and on and on and on...
What is your view on these 2 phrases Holy Spirit Holy Ghost . Are they the same being . Are they one third of the Trinity or 2 sixths?
Are you truly wanting to know? In short, the KJV translators were divinely guided to use the term "Holy Ghost" when it simply refers to the third Person of the blessed Trinity and His activity, thus indicating He is a Person. The KJV likewise uses the term "holy Spirit" or "Holy Spirit" when emphasizing the aspect of His "holiness". Look carefully at all 7 times this term is used and in each case the idea of holiness is directly involved in the context. The term "Holy Ghost" is only used in the NT. There's much more if you're interested.
This is not some spiritual warfare. It is the literal, physical, visible kingdom of this world. It is taken by violence. The Lord will take it by violence at his second coming.
12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.
From got questions
Of the modern English translations of the Bible, it is only the King James Version of the Bible which uses the term “Holy Ghost.” It occurs 90 times in the KJV. The term “Holy Spirit” occurs 7 times in the KJV. There is no clear reason as to why the KJV translators used Ghost in most places and then Spirit in a few. The exact same Greek and Hebrew words are translated "ghost" and "spirit" in the KJV in different occurrences of the words. By "ghost," the KJV translators did not intend to communicate the idea of "the spirit of a deceased person." In 1611, when the KJV was originally translated, the word "ghost" primarily referred to "an immaterial being."
We need to keep in mind that Martin Luther's German translation had been around for almost 100 years before the King James translation. The German for "Holy Spirit" is "Heilige Geist" which is translated as "Holy Ghost". There is absolutely nothing wrong with this, and for over 300 years this was not even an issue.
Should Christians stick to the KJB in spite of all the propaganda? Absolutely. The modern bible versions cannot be trusted and should not be trusted. This is based purely upon the facts.
Since I read it from cover to cover, it's not the hard to understand book that people say.....like those who don't want the challenge of reading it. It does help when the Holy Spirit is teaching too.