Ah, Just thought I would see what falls out of the bushes on this thread....It should be interesting!
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The Kingdom of God vs The Kingdom of Heaven
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One and the same at the end of the day and when the dust settles.....two different descriptions to describe the same thing....
kind of like.....
saints------>saved<---------elect
Two different words to describe the same thing from a different aspect
kind of like.....
saints------>saved<---------elect
Two different words to describe the same thing from a different aspect
Not sure if you are trying to say that the Kingdom of the eternal God and as the Kingdom of our heavenly Father are the same place or if they both liken to the other.
For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; John 5:26
While they definitely aren't the same place, as one can clearly see as evident by what the Son of our Heavenly Father told us in John 3:3, they are both definitely bodies of invisible light. (See Col. 1:15-16)
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The eternal God and the heavenly Father are one and the same -- God the Father. The Kingdom of God is also the Kingdom of Heaven since God's throne is in Heaven, and God dwells in Heaven, from where He rules the universe as the eternal King. At the same time, the Lord Jesus Christ is also the eternal King, and in relation to the earth, King of kings and Lord of lords. If this is incomprehensible to the human mind, it is meant to be accepted by faith.
So what is on the outside of this universe? You do know that the universe is a finite body of space, or else it couldn't be expanding. Christ reveals himself somewhat in 1 Tim 6:16.
Both God's Heaven (the third Heaven) and eternal Hell (the Lake of Fire) are outside this universe (which is indeed finite). We have no idea about "outer darkness" (where Hell is located) but it would be as far away from Heaven as imaginable.
Heaven was created, see Genesis 1:1, "In the beginning God created heaven and earth."
The scriptures do not represent Christ as the eternal King, it refers unto him as the King eternal:
Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen. 1 Tim 1:17
No, on earth as it is in heaven. the kingdom of heaven are the believers on earth , and the kingdom of God is his dwelling place.surely If you are a believer, he give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven which is knowledge, but not the keys to his kingdom directly.
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Mat 13:31 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field:
Luke 13:18 Then said he, Unto what is the kingdom of God like? and whereunto shall I resemble it?
Luke 13:19 It is like a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and cast into his garden; and it grew, and waxed a great tree; and the fowls of the air lodged in the branches of it.
Here we see both terms used interchangeably in the parable of the mustard seed.
Luke 13:18 Then said he, Unto what is the kingdom of God like? and whereunto shall I resemble it?
Luke 13:19 It is like a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and cast into his garden; and it grew, and waxed a great tree; and the fowls of the air lodged in the branches of it.
Here we see both terms used interchangeably in the parable of the mustard seed.
You never know.......
And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush:
and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.
Ex 3:2
and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.
Ex 3:2
As a pastor you should know better than that....Even Jesus defined them differently.
"....., a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."
2 Tim 2:15
So if the Elohim is the LORD God, and the LORD is a God of truth, then if God is a Spirit would the Spirit of Truth be the Son of God who is the LORD of the heaven above and the earth beneath?
2 Tim 2:15
So if the Elohim is the LORD God, and the LORD is a God of truth, then if God is a Spirit would the Spirit of Truth be the Son of God who is the LORD of the heaven above and the earth beneath?
While I usually have you blocked out,,,thought I would respond just this once...Jesus did not use them as the same thing.