The politics of Gay rights.
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If you had read the artical, nothing said equated sexually abusing children with
same sex attraction. But that they where using the same kind of [arguments]
to justfy there position, like [ I was born this way]
Can you post those studies for us?
Not sure where [a result of the environment] was mentioned by me.
Do you have a doctorate in sociology, biology or political science?
if no then in your view, your opinion is worthless also.
You gave no evedence to backup what you said.
Your remark that I do not read is false, an uncalled for attack.
The scientests I read say that they are born this way.
The same thing they claim about being gay.
Now they use the same arguement as gays [I was born like this]
are pedophilia born this way?
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Not wholly correct. The secular legal system is based on biblical principals. Right and wrong are biblical principals whereas grades of right and wrong are secular. Often seen a situational ethics and certainly it's only wrong if you catch me doing it.
Theocratic governments are not tyrannies. God is not a tyrant. If you see God as a dictator you have serious problems.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Right.
Equating homosexuality with pedophilia is just a knee-jerk reaction by right-wingers.
right-wingers?
can you give an example, who is Equating homosexuality with pedophilia here?
or any links that show someone Equating homosexuality with pedophilia?
Other then the fact they both say they where born this way,
this is 2 different subjects.
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I can equate them in one way: They are both sin. Well, I didn't equate them that way originally, God did. so... I guess that's a wrap. Happy Christmas.
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kaylagrl
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When you give your life to Christ we can discuss these things. Until then there is nothing anyone here can say to you.
Dude,perhaps you need to rededicate your life,your like on a persons post that is not a Christian is telling.Not saying you're not a Christian,but you need to take a look in the Book again my friend.
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kaylagrl
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I believe in freedom of religion 100%.But I don't back perversion and I don't think it should be accepted and normalized. I believe its purpose is to break down the traditional family. And if you think a theocratic society is bad,try one with no family,no gender,and five parents in one household.
Religion and morality are firmly rooted in divine law.
Paul Johnson, A British historian wrote an article titled “No Law Without Order,
No Freedom Without Law.”In it he wrote, “oth in Virginia and in New England
to the north, the colonists were determined, God-fearing men, often in search of a
religious toleration denied them at home, who brought their families and were
anxious to farm and establish permanent settlements.
They put political and religious freedom before riches .… Thus took shape the
economic dynamo that eventually became the United States—an experiment
designed to establish the rule of God on Earth …”
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In his First Inaugural, President George Washington said, “The foundations of our
national policy will be laid in the pure and immutable principles of private morality.”
In his famous Farewell Address he said, “Of all the dispositions and habits which
lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports.”
Washington knew that without religion and morality, the American experiment was
doomed to fail. John Adams backed him up: “Statesmen may plan and speculate for
liberty, but it is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon
which freedom can securely stand.” Religion and morality are firmly rooted in divine law.
In 1954, Supreme Court Chief Justice Earl Warren wrote, “I believe the entire Bill
of Rights came into being because of the knowledge our forefathers had of the Bible
and their belief in it.”
What political or religious leaders would make such statements as these men did?
The Constitution is the foundation of our republic. And the Ten Commandments were,
in many ways, the foundation of the Constitution.
Paul Johnson, A British historian wrote an article titled “No Law Without Order,
No Freedom Without Law.”In it he wrote, “oth in Virginia and in New England
to the north, the colonists were determined, God-fearing men, often in search of a
religious toleration denied them at home, who brought their families and were
anxious to farm and establish permanent settlements.
They put political and religious freedom before riches .… Thus took shape the
economic dynamo that eventually became the United States—an experiment
designed to establish the rule of God on Earth …”
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In his First Inaugural, President George Washington said, “The foundations of our
national policy will be laid in the pure and immutable principles of private morality.”
In his famous Farewell Address he said, “Of all the dispositions and habits which
lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports.”
Washington knew that without religion and morality, the American experiment was
doomed to fail. John Adams backed him up: “Statesmen may plan and speculate for
liberty, but it is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon
which freedom can securely stand.” Religion and morality are firmly rooted in divine law.
In 1954, Supreme Court Chief Justice Earl Warren wrote, “I believe the entire Bill
of Rights came into being because of the knowledge our forefathers had of the Bible
and their belief in it.”
What political or religious leaders would make such statements as these men did?
The Constitution is the foundation of our republic. And the Ten Commandments were,
in many ways, the foundation of the Constitution.
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Society
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What doe my not being a Christian have to do with not wanting be be controlled by theocrats?
"I believe in freedom until it's something I'm against or offended by."
Yes Theocratic governments are extremely tyrannical.
Try Saudi Arabia and tell me what you think
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kaylagrl
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It matters because your worldview is different.You don't know the Lord,though I hope you will come to.So any statement you make is from that point of view. So there is no sense trying to discuss anything with someone who sees things through secular glasses.
http://www.drlwilson.com/articles/HOMOSEXUALITY.htm
4. A biochemical imbalance involving copper and zinc. This imbalance can explain how even small children can act and think in a homosexual way. It does not mean that the trait is “genetic”. It just means these children, along with some adults, are out of balance biochemically, and that is all.
Copper and zinc relate closely to our secondary sex characteristics, which means our attitudes and feelings about sexuality, among other things. Many, if not all homosexuals have too much copper and not enough zinc. Many children are being born this way due to zinc deficiency and copper excess in their mothers. This is another fact, although it is not well known among medical and psychological professionals.
Once again, this is not a genetic error, meaning it is not in the genes or chromosomes, as the homosexual lobby contends. Instead, it is a congenital abnormality. The word congenital means present at birth, but not genetic. Congenital imbalances are mainly due to nutritional problems in one’s mother, or perhaps the presence of toxins in the mother’s body that affect the growing fetus.
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Probably, if medical and psychological professionals don't know about this (or act like they don't), it's exactly because media/ TV want to normalize homosexuality. So they try to not include this factor, in psychological and medical/ biological books.
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Susanna
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I think this is sort of correct, for the record though, I'd like to add, that the Western socities legal systems are more Jesus leaning than, say, the Middle East societies.
This is a tremendous difference because most societies can be said to be based on biblical principles, but, as there is for most people to see, that is not necessarily a good thing.
Imho I'd say that anything based on what one could say are biblical principles are yet worthless if it doesn't lean heavily on Jesus.
No God is not a tyrant, but when people of religion come to government, power corrupts and they become tyrannical in Gods name.
Take many of the people on this thread, and say right ok, you are all now in Government, you have all the power. Exactly what would they do, what would they change, what would they start shutting down, what would they destroy, in the name of creating, in the name of the creator?
Governments which are more balanced, and civil, modern, open things up. Governments that are corrupt politically, or overtly religious, tend to destroy things, for either personal gain, or for moral gain, rather than build things.
Take many of the people on this thread, and say right ok, you are all now in Government, you have all the power. Exactly what would they do, what would they change, what would they start shutting down, what would they destroy, in the name of creating, in the name of the creator?
Governments which are more balanced, and civil, modern, open things up. Governments that are corrupt politically, or overtly religious, tend to destroy things, for either personal gain, or for moral gain, rather than build things.
News flash they do not know God they only know allah who is not God. Corrupt god corrupt government.
Do you purposely confuse yourself or is it a natural gift?
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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Society
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So you believe that if I were a right wing Christian like yourself I would WANT to be controlled by a theocratic government. I see now.
Some people surrender their liberty far to easily.
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NoNameMcgee
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being gay in public
is much like being drunk
or being high on crack in public
youre making a choice based on a sinful addiction that you have now from many other bad choices in the past
for the most part it only effects you
unless you over expose your mental state and reveal the effects this lifestyle choice has on you to others
any good Preacher isnt going to marry to gays
God isnt going to accept gay marriage
if i can vote against it i will
and if i had children id do my best to shield their eyes from this horrible disgusting and hateful LGBT agenda that attacks anyone who stands for the truth and lies to try and justify their actions
the difference is typically the many drug addicts ive met know its wrong
they keep it in small get togethers or behind closed doors
(there is also legal ramifications taking certain drugs in certain places....even if it doesnt effect how "sober" you are.. like some steroids)
but if i go back to what tommy said
i think it would be best to seperate government and marriage
down the line they will try to shame, fire or put actual christian preachers who choose not to marry gays in prison
is much like being drunk
or being high on crack in public
youre making a choice based on a sinful addiction that you have now from many other bad choices in the past
for the most part it only effects you
unless you over expose your mental state and reveal the effects this lifestyle choice has on you to others
any good Preacher isnt going to marry to gays
God isnt going to accept gay marriage
if i can vote against it i will
and if i had children id do my best to shield their eyes from this horrible disgusting and hateful LGBT agenda that attacks anyone who stands for the truth and lies to try and justify their actions
the difference is typically the many drug addicts ive met know its wrong
they keep it in small get togethers or behind closed doors
(there is also legal ramifications taking certain drugs in certain places....even if it doesnt effect how "sober" you are.. like some steroids)
but if i go back to what tommy said
i think it would be best to seperate government and marriage
down the line they will try to shame, fire or put actual christian preachers who choose not to marry gays in prison