Wouldn't it be easier to just say you are a "Premillennial Post-Tribulationist". Your interpretation of the Scriptures, is what a "Premillennial Pre Tribulationist", call the "Yo-yo theorist". That is: We are caught up in the air with the Lord at the end of the Tribulation, just so we can all come right back down to the earth again. Doesn't really make since.
Additionally, I continue to point back to the Old Testament shadow. Enoch - a type of believer in the assembly Christ is building - is taken up alive and this just before the flood - a type of the Great Tribulation. While not all agree with this view, we know the Old Testament is full of "types and shadows" of the New.
no i do t see any reason for me to label myself after some term people made up to label each other I’m looking for biblical things to discuss .
I think it’s best to say
I believe the things Jesus taught in the gospel concerning his second coming and the end of the world and the gathering of his church to himself
it’s not about “
My interpretation “ it’s about when Jesus was asked he told them plainly About these things and we’re believers.
I don’t even know that that term your using means or where it would come from it’s definitely not something from scripture so I’m really not really interested.
I’m looking for scripture not someone’s interpretation of a scripture here and there but answers I don’t care if someone else tells me or I find it myself I’m looking for something like this to believe and I don’t think any of the “ pre trib” rapture folks have ever even addressed this instead I see a lot of arguments why it’s not right but no ones offering any scripture even close to as clear about the matters were discussing
“And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying,
Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man
deceive you.”
Matthew 24:3-4 KJV
“For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and
shall deceive many.
And
ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for
all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
For
nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. All these are the beginning of sorrows.
Then shall they
deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.”
Matthew 24:5-13 KJV
“And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before. Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.”
Matthew 24:14, 24-27, 29-31
Jesus is only going to return once , it’s what the church has been waiting for all along
“For
the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.”
Matthew 16:27 KJV
“As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire;
so shall it be in the end of this world.
The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father.
Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.”
Matthew 13:40-43 KJV
“
When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:”
Matthew 25:31 KJV
These are all speaking of the same return telling us how things are going to be when Jesus returns . It’s just one appointed day just like when he came the first time it was foretold for ages and then one day he showed up and most didn’t even recognize him
one day Jesus is going to return from heaven that day is at the end of the world. I believe this not because I’m interpreting it but because I’m not interpreting anything I’m believing things will go as the lord has said it will go
I realize it will differ from someone say who believes in a different idea , and that’s ok with me . But it seems sort of straight forward is my position we should learn to believe the gospel and forget about our own wisdom and learnin’ because that’s what he said to do