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Does it still exist? Is it a myth? Does it influence your denomination?
Is the word "work(s)" a tainted word for many of you?
Is the word "work(s)" a tainted word for many of you?
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from wikipedia
The Protestant work ethic, the Calvinist work ethic,[1] or the Puritan work ethic[2] is a work ethic concept in theology, sociology, economics and history that emphasizes that hard work, discipline, and frugality[3] are a result of a person's subscription to the values espoused by the Protestant faith, particularly Calvinism.
The phrase was initially coined in 1904–1905[a] by Max Weber in his book The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism.[4] Weber asserted that Protestant ethics and values along with the Calvinist doctrine of asceticism and predestination gave birth to capitalism.[5] It’s one of the most influential and cited books in sociology although the thesis presented has been controversial since its release. Contra Weber, Historians such as Fernand Braudel and Hugh Trevor-Roper assert that the Protestant work ethic did not create capitalism and that capitalism developed in pre-Reformation Catholic communities.
The Protestant work ethic, the Calvinist work ethic,[1] or the Puritan work ethic[2] is a work ethic concept in theology, sociology, economics and history that emphasizes that hard work, discipline, and frugality[3] are a result of a person's subscription to the values espoused by the Protestant faith, particularly Calvinism.
The phrase was initially coined in 1904–1905[a] by Max Weber in his book The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism.[4] Weber asserted that Protestant ethics and values along with the Calvinist doctrine of asceticism and predestination gave birth to capitalism.[5] It’s one of the most influential and cited books in sociology although the thesis presented has been controversial since its release. Contra Weber, Historians such as Fernand Braudel and Hugh Trevor-Roper assert that the Protestant work ethic did not create capitalism and that capitalism developed in pre-Reformation Catholic communities.
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There has been a revitalization of Weber's interest, including the work of Lawrence Harrison, Samuel P. Huntington, and David Landes. In a New York Times article, published in June 8, 2003, Niall Ferguson pointed that data from the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) seems to confirm that "the experience of Western Europe in the past quarter-century offers an unexpected confirmation of the Protestant ethic. To put it bluntly, we are witnessing the decline and fall of the Protestant work ethic in Europe. This represents the stunning triumph of secularization in Western Europe—the simultaneous decline of both Protestantism and its unique work ethic."
There has been a revitalization of Weber's interest, including the work of Lawrence Harrison, Samuel P. Huntington, and David Landes. In a New York Times article, published in June 8, 2003, Niall Ferguson pointed that data from the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) seems to confirm that "the experience of Western Europe in the past quarter-century offers an unexpected confirmation of the Protestant ethic. To put it bluntly, we are witnessing the decline and fall of the Protestant work ethic in Europe. This represents the stunning triumph of secularization in Western Europe—the simultaneous decline of both Protestantism and its unique work ethic."
Not very likely given the fact that monasticism was greatly emphasized by the Catholic Church. The Industrial Revolution led to capitalism.
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i dont think it exists anymore because people in so called protestant countries arent protestants anymore usually atheists
but i say finland still works hard. its a remnant from that era its instilled in people you work hard.
some non christian countries work super hard like japan they overcame big loss from world war.
good lesson for personal life too is look around you all succesful people always work hard. lazy people dont prosper
but i say finland still works hard. its a remnant from that era its instilled in people you work hard.
some non christian countries work super hard like japan they overcame big loss from world war.
good lesson for personal life too is look around you all succesful people always work hard. lazy people dont prosper
I don't want to say this, but I think it's a fabrication.
Much of the "Protestant Work Ethic" is owed to the influence of More, Erasmus, and other Christian Humanists had throughout Christendom at the time.
Much of the "Protestant Work Ethic" is owed to the influence of More, Erasmus, and other Christian Humanists had throughout Christendom at the time.
God please bring christianity back. i know its last times but i hate living in apostasy europe. everyone is an atheist and i do mean every one. the wikipedia is deceiving if you go and look this percentage is like lutheran or reformed church of holland etc. its not true. people just are born and added to church numbers but dont really believe if you ask them in real life 1on1 you believe in Jesus they say no im atheist
I respect Huntington and Ferguson a great deal, but I do not think this proves Weber's thesis. A Western European work ethic, sure. I'll go along with that.
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Yes, therefore no, no and irrelevant, yes but irrelevant.
Since you are Catholic you should know that monasticism (along with celibacy and asceticism) were key elements of the Roman Catholic Church. That led to mysticism also, but not to capitalism.
As to the Protestant work ethic, it is true that Reformed Christians believed in working diligently, being frugal, etc. but these are all biblical principles.
Of course it is gone, that is old fashioned. Anyone who searches scripture to learn
God's ways and works toward following them is looked down on, haven't you heard how even "Sabbath keepers" are sneered at? It is because God has written that He blessed that day. People forget that Christ is God and let you praise Him, but you better not try to give the Father that praise if you want support of other "Christians". They manage the Lord's prayer to their Father in heaven only because it is done by rote.
God's ways and works toward following them is looked down on, haven't you heard how even "Sabbath keepers" are sneered at? It is because God has written that He blessed that day. People forget that Christ is God and let you praise Him, but you better not try to give the Father that praise if you want support of other "Christians". They manage the Lord's prayer to their Father in heaven only because it is done by rote.
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Your comment might have some merit if you explained it. As written, it's just an empty insult.
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you do sound like Scrooge..humourless i meanwell of course
must have insults
bah humbug
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is that a practice you learned or does it come spontaneously?
trying to create the illusion that you understand what I wrote?
oh wait...I get it now
you are miffed cause he called you on your insult and I funnied it