The Real Truth About Joseph Prince!

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Josefnospam

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If he is NOT talking about Jesus Christ and what Christ has done for his people don't follow him. This is true for all men. When anyone starts talking about what they have done for Christ , or what you can do for Christ RUN away as fast as you can.

Jesus Christ has done a perfect work..............Rejoice in him alone and give HIM all the glory and honor due
 
PeterJens

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The problem with powerful messages

Everyone believes or follows things for their own reasons. Now when you spot the reasons
why someone or something should be rejected you just need to put that forward and the let God
work it through.

The danger is ones enthusiasm becomes as overpowering as the people you oppose, and you get
engulfed by the conflict and suddenly find malice, hurt, pain gets mixed up in your heart and you
become what you are opposing.

It is through openness and sharing that truth lives. It is truth that brings realities to the fore.
But if you become seduced by the emotion and opposition you undermine the very truth you are
bringing. And that is the reality they will use against you, even though it all disappears over time.
 
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HisHolly

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JP is in Singapore.. Didn't Paul talk to Greeks using their culture and vocabulary to explain what He was meaning? Alpha and omega, for example..
 
Stephen63

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PeterJens said:
The problem with powerful messages

Everyone believes or follows things for their own reasons. Now when you spot the reasons
why someone or something should be rejected you just need to put that forward and the let God
work it through.

The danger is ones enthusiasm becomes as overpowering as the people you oppose, and you get
engulfed by the conflict and suddenly find malice, hurt, pain gets mixed up in your heart and you
become what you are opposing.

It is through openness and sharing that truth lives. It is truth that brings realities to the fore.
But if you become seduced by the emotion and opposition you undermine the very truth you are
bringing. And that is the reality they will use against you, even though it all disappears over time.
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I am trying to keep things simple & let the videos speak for themselves. A lot of provoking posts have been written, & I purposely didn't answer them knowing I could get drawn in.

Since they have abandoned the thread, it will be easier to deal with.

Good word, nevertheless. :)
 
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HisHolly

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Hs guides us into ALL truth.. Can you say He told you to be cautious? If so, I'll inquire and stand with you.. but I've yet to have such a heed
 
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HisHolly said:
Hs guides us into ALL truth.. Can you say He told you to be cautious? If so, I'll inquire and stand with you.. but I've yet to have such a heed
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1. Experience says to be cautious.
2. The understanding of the times promotes being cautious.
3. Wisdom says be cautious.

Since the Holy Spirit aids in all three of these, I would say yes.:)
 
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bluto

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Yonah said:
well Bluto how about you show me where I ignore the Saviors words huh? with such an accusation not even knowing exactly what I meant by what I wrote you not only falsely accuse me but then presume to council me about reading the bible... heres council for you: read prov. 18:13 and try to act less on your presumptions and try making righteous judgement before you go condemning anothers words without so much as one question to clarify what it is I do mean by my statement.
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Well gee yonah, I read every single word you said here, "listen: no matter what the person may say... the Fathers arm is not shortened that He cannot save.. even if one is in error His Spirit will surely lead ALL those to His truth who have a love for it." I know exactly what you meant and of course the arm of the Father can save anybody anytime during their lifetime no matter how bad they have been.

That is not the point, I mean anybody can make a general statement like you did that God can reach them but how about dealing with all the damage the person has done and is doing at this present time? Don't you think we are required to speak out against and "warn" others like the Bible teaches? Instead of being "confrontational" regarding heretical teachings your being "condescending" in your tone and answer.

And btw, why should I have to ask you for "clarification" of what your "really" mean instead of what you "really" said? :eek:

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
 
Stephen63

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The Benjamin Generation.... A prophesy with no bible back-up whatsoever. What surprises me is that Prince teaches against using the Old Testament.

[video=youtube;6HuH_3xua9c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HuH_3xua9c[/video]
 
Stephen63

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A False aAnnointing

[video=youtube;Ixh9zY3aqy8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixh9zY3aqy8[/video]
 
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AbigailZeke

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I move to close this thread as this is not a bible discussion but a public accusation (regardless if they're right or wrong) about someone who's not here to defend himself.
 
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Thank you Stephen63, for this thread, I was ignorant for his erroneous doctrine. Thanks for your willingness to face the heat over this.
 
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bluto

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AbigailZeke said:
I move to close this thread as this is not a bible discussion but a public accusation (regardless if they're right or wrong) about someone who's not here to defend himself.
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Well abigail we are having a Bible discussion and it has to do with how the Bible tells us to confront and expose false teachings who ever they may be and in what form it make take. Please read Ephesians 5:11, and Acts 20:28-31. I also notice you work at his church so invite him here and some of us will confront him on his heretical teachings. However, you should know that his words are already in print by way of books, sermons and videos for everybody to see for themselves. Don't you check or compare what somebody is teaching you by checking to see if it "jives" with the Bible? Read Acts 17:11. :eek:

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
 
AbigailZeke

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bluto said:
Well abigail we are having a Bible discussion and it has to do with how the Bible tells us to confront and expose false teachings who ever they may be and in what form it make take. Please read Ephesians 5:11, and Acts 20:28-31. I also notice you work at his church so invite him here and some of us will confront him on his heretical teachings. However, you should know that his words are already in print by way of books, sermons and videos for everybody to see for themselves. Don't you check or compare what somebody is teaching you by checking to see if it "jives" with the Bible? Read Acts 17:11. :eek:

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
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You misunderstand. Like I said, regardless of the credibility of the accusation, this does not license anyone to make a public spectacle of another.

I suppose you see the difference between an open rebuke and persecution.
 
PennEd

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So funny! I see the quotes of people who love to bash others, in Grace lovers replies, but almost all of my ignores are on this thread. Have ANY of these guys that love to bash others EVER start a thread about loving Jesus and other people?
I'm just gonna post beautiful worship music when I see these hateful threads.
 
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Good idea PennEd.....all that has been shown here is how people "twist" what is being said and this thread has just exposed people's malice and slander towards someone in the body of Christ.

We should just ignore these bite-biting threads and pray that these malice filled slanderers will start walking by the Spirit of God instead of after the flesh. It is ungodly behavior and it is absolutely shameful.

Then people wonder why those in the world reject Christ - they are not rejecting Christ - they are rejecting these types of slanderers supposedly representing of Christ.

Galatians 5:15-16 (NASB)
[SUP]15 [/SUP] But if you bite and devour one another, take care that you are not consumed by one another.

[SUP]16 [/SUP] But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh.

Let's ignore them and let them slander others in the body of Christ. We can't stop them just the same as we can't stop anyone from walking after the flesh.

Let's instead listen to things that build up the body of Christ.

[video=youtube;Bn5zk3yCRr0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn5zk3yCRr0[/video]

 
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Emmalico

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I believe in Word of faith,and it is working for me, i confess my inheritance in christ Jesus everyday,when i am weak, i confess strength, health for sickness,prosperity fot failure. I can do all things in Jesus my rock. A christain do not fight against a christain. Do not allow pull him down spirit to possess you, it is a dangerous spirit, instead of pulling him down ,why not connect to God with that same energy.Do not fight for God,he is not idol, allow God to be God.
 
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bluto

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AbigailZeke said:
You misunderstand. Like I said, regardless of the credibility of the accusation, this does not license anyone to make a public spectacle of another.

I suppose you see the difference between an open rebuke and persecution.
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No abogail, I didn't misunderstand anything. Do you want to see how love incarnate/Jesus Christ made a public spectacle of the Pharisees at Matthew 23:23-37? "Vs23, "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!" He says the same thing and more all the way through and then look what He says at vs33, "You serpents, you brood of vipers, how shall you escape the sentence of hell?"

And guess how Jesus Christ closes at vs37? "O Jersalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! HOW OFTEN I WOULD HAVE GATHER YOUR CHILDREN TOGETHERHER, THE WAY A HEN GATHERS HER CHICKS UNDER HER WINGS, AND YOU WERE NOT WILLING."

In other words for you who are accusing some of us as "bashers." What I say about false teachers and how I feel about them are two different things. I pray for them and have never stopped praying for them that God would touch their hearts and come to their senses. I really feel sorry for you abigail if you really think this is "persecution." Missy, you haven't seen anything yet so you better gird up your loins and get with the program. If you don't hate sin in any form including heretical teaching then there is something wrong with your Christianity. :eek:

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
 
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I think Abigail has a point. I don't think these threads accomplish anything positive ( even if that is the intention of the OP).

I personally don't think it's wrong to critique any teacher's books or sermons ( they do put their views out publicly ). We should be careful and weigh everyone's words or teachings and compare these views to what is outlined in Scripture. It is not wrong to post excerpts of their material for discussion. I think it's acceptable to take a strong stand and even condemn certain views as heresy ( if they contradict Scripture).

However, I do think that the numerous threads concerning Joseph Prince are badgering to those that enjoy his teachings. I've only been active in this forum for a short time and I've seen more discussions and threads for /against Joseph Prince than any other topic, haha. I am not saying anyone has bad motives or intentions for starting these threads. I think everyone is very passionate and zealous to promote truth. After awhile though, I think it's best to agree to disagree. None of us like having a teacher we respect be constantly critiqued.
 
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Stephen63 said:
The Benjamin Generation.... A prophesy with no bible back-up whatsoever. What surprises me is that Prince teaches against using the Old Testament.

[video=youtube;6HuH_3xua9c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HuH_3xua9c[/video]
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so all you could here was a Benjamin generation? Every other thing he was saying means nothing to you huh?
You see, you guys think you are exposing JP. But don't be surprised that you are doing the will of God here lol. The Jews though they were doing justice to the law by crucifying Jesus. Little did they know that the were fulfilling the will of God. As it was then, so it is today.
 
Stephen63

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AbigailZeke said:
I move to close this thread as this is not a bible discussion but a public accusation (regardless if they're right or wrong) about someone who's not here to defend himself.
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In every thread about Jp, his ministry, his doctrine, and his devotions, EVERY PERSON who disagreed was treated disrespectfully, mocked, accused, judged..... and ALL THE WHILE Joseph Prince's doctrine has not been properly investigated in a Berean manner. Joseph Prince's doctrine cannot be biblically proven by well established Protestant standards.

During this thread I have purposely not accused nor mocked Joseph Prince, nor have I argued with those who tried to hijack this thread.

As far as Prince not being able to defend himself..... he doesn't need to. There are over two dozen people on this site including yourself constantly working directly or indirectly for his cause. There's more people in the BDF that defends Prince than defends Jesus Himself.

HOW can I say such a seemingly awful thing? Check the threads..... over 2/3's of the BDF threads have CC members continuously using Prince's doctrine.

Pretty nice for a man who's not here to defend himself, wouldn't you think?

I hope you TRY to close this thread. Not a single rule broken, no disputes, no slander against the subject. That would speak VOLUMES.
 
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