The Role of the Woman

[Utah]

Zo never expressly stated or even alluded to that. You know what, it is so embarrassing where a young girl has to say she is virgin because some men on here cannot help themselves but call a young girl immoral, because they do not understand the young girl who is intelligent enough to use generalities and not specifics. Guys, this really is poor behaviour and does not belong on a Christian forum. The fact that Zo has to mention her private life (see below) just to make a point is shocking. Do you guys understand the right to a private life? Zo has the right to a private life and she should not have to make comments about her own life, just because the guys do not understand when persons use non-specific terms.

In her first post in this thread, post #3, she mentions sex three times. The OP had many different areas of discussion which could have been the focus, but zoii went right for the sex. And now this 14 year old who's not even sure of Christ's divinity calls me and a few others non-Christians. Funny, I stuck my neck out for her on another thread and was called out for it, but now suddenly I'm not Christian.

 

[kaylagrl]

Yes and making comments that is going to get attention. I've read through Zoii's posts and don't see any scripture backing her claims up. She got noticed when she made her very first post which is below.

Mary Anne. Sister I cant support everything you said. I just don't see it as my role to be subordinate to anyone. If I marry I see it as a partnership. I'm definitely not any expert only matters of sex but I see both partners having responsibilities. I know enough about sex to know a lot of men have a lot of work to do in being good sexual partners. But my main thing about women subordination and obedience is that withdrawing love from a husband is natural and even right where the husband is abusive either physically or verbally. There can be no such thing as the dutiful wife in those circumstances and her priority is to her own safety and the safety of her children.

Another post from Zoii.


I really cant accept the value that the man has to be the head of a marriage - its a partnership. I cant accept that a womans place is to be subordinant to her husband. I cant accept that a wifes place is to be submissive sexually to her husbands needs. Whether you agree with me or not I cant help seeing it as a version of women as servants. I feel so strongly about some of the statements made about a womans role it pretty well convinces me to go to a sperm bank, have my children and love them, and avoid the necessary servitude to men and avoid the risks of abuse domestic violence and issues that seem to come with the package of being tied to a man.

These statements from her is going to draw attention to where she is getting her information from. She never refers to God or scripture. If a 14 year old girl is going to make statements like this then someone is going to correct her. This thread was a "HATE MEN THREAD" but now it has turned into the "POOR ZOII THREAD" I"m sorry if I seem a bit bitter about this but I'm not going to keep quiet when people are claiming the scripture says for MEN are to ABUSE their wives and treat them like DOGS. If you have issues with scripture take it up with God and ask Him why He wanted it in the bible.

You can find out anything you want on the internet.Young people today are on social networks and have much more adult knowledge than ever before. Whether Zoii was trying to get attenion,I dont think she was, as adults we should be gentle in our responses to her. As the adult you should be able to understand that. There is nothing in CC rules that says you have to back up anything you say with Scripture. Sometimes I do sometimes I dont.If its just an opinion I still have a right to share it.Since she is 14 you dont argue with her like you would another adult.If you cant do that ignore what she says.You dont have to answer her.

The thread began as a "how to please a husband in every way possible" thread,not a man hating thread. No one in here is hating on men. It wouldnt be a "poor Zoii thread" if somebody would apologize for his nasty remarks.Then everyone would get over it. I dont believe the Bible says to abuse their wives,I believe some,some,some men abuse their power.For instance the man in the OPs first post.Total nonsense and a jaded view of what the Bible truly says.

 

[kaylagrl]

This thread has ran its course (at least with me). God bless and good luck with the never ending battle of who is right and who is wrong.

Its not a never ending battle.Age of Knowledge was wrong and refuses to apologize. When he mans up and apologizes battle will stop.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Indeed. But she has EVERY RIGHT to speak. How hypocritical of you to take her to task for doing exactly what you did noting that she exercised her right to speak in support of the truth I shared rather than piling on in opposition to it like you ignorantly did.

She's not a member of your third wave ultra feminist in-group committed to the existing platform of policies presently responsible for the rapid decline of the family in Western Civilization that God Himself instituted in Genesis 1 and neither am I.

Now, here's an example of a scholarly government produced study that has data relevant to beginning to answer the question of whether or not it's a myth that family courts favor mothers over fathers.

It's a current population report produced by the U.S. Census Bureau titled 'Custodial Mothers and Fathers and Their Child Support: 2011' which you can view here: http://www.census.gov/prod/2013pubs/p60-246.pdf

Immediately we see that "about 18.3 percent of custodial parents were fathers" meaning that 81.7 percent of the time the court makes the mother the custodial parent and that "approximately half (48.9 percent) of all 14.4 million custodial parents had a court order or some type of agreement to receive financial support from the noncustodial parent(s)." Furthermore, "the percentage of custodial fathers with child support agreements or awards was 28.8 percent in 2012."

Myth? I don't think so. There's enough empirical evidence produced by the U.S. Census Bureau's Child Support Page Child Support - Main - People and Households - U.S. Census Bureau to dispel this latest false assertion of yours that it's a myth U.S. courts favor mothers over fathers in divorces.

Considering the typical length of his posts and his use of language, I find it interesting that you feel the need to step in and speak for Ageofknowledge. He strikes me as a person who is more than capable of speaking for himself.

Additionally, your information re: family law is based on misunderstanding and not actual statistics. It's a myth that a woman is always given favorable status in the courts just because she's a mother.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Ember, I saw that vicious libel you directed against me. It was disgusting and I've reported you to the mods for it. I'm also placing you on ignore at this time. Don't ever talk to me again "sister." Moving along...

 

[kaylagrl]

Would someone alert the mods to Age of Knowledges behavior? With more than one person maybe we can calm this situation down.Blasting everyone who disagrees with him is getting to be a little much. Ive never had an issue with AofK I'd almost think someone took over his account.But the disrespect for fellow CC members and his comments to Zoii and refusal to apologize,its enough already.

 

[JesusLives]

Blond pops in and thinks everyone could use a cookie.....let's sweeten things up a bit......Cookies are good.....guys you don't have to believe it and I am not trying to teach you that cookies are good....you can be the judge for yourselves....

 

[Oncefallen]

Due to the high number of reported posts from numerous users, by numerous users this thread is now closed. Unfortunately I don't have the time to dig through 36 pages of posts to determine how this thread degraded to this point and who is at fault.