It is pretty ironic that you are preaching about a transformed heart while admitting yours is still deceitful, proving you are still trying to use a stone checklist to manage a nature you don't actually trust the King to have changed yet.
The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?
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That's an amazing twist of what was said. I said we should love God that way He said to both written and spoken by God Himself Exo20:6 instead of depending on our own heart, which will deceive us.
I see there is no reasoning here, so I will let you be on your way.
It isn't a twist. It is just pointing out that if you still have a deceitful heart that needs a stone tablet to keep it in check, then you haven't actually received the New Covenant heart that God promised. You are correct that there is no reasoning with someone who refuses to remove the veil of the law and put on the lenses of the Spirit.
We all do, why we need to depend on what God said and not our feelings. He tells us how to love Him Exo20:6 and serve and join ourselves to Him Isa56:6 the issue is not that God is not clear, the issue is our hardened heart Heb3:7-19 wanting everything God promises, but on our terms not His. Mat7:21-23 Its a deception, but believe as you wish.
In this post, you sound just like Ellen White threatening people who expose her false teaching. Congratulations
It is not a feeling to trust the finished work of the Son, it is faith. You keep pointing to the law to fix a hardened heart, but Paul says in 2 Corinthians 3:14 that the heart is actually hardened and veiled by the reading of the old covenant. You are trying to use the very thing that causes the blindness to try and cure it. If you need a stone tablet to join yourself to God, you are still living as a servant under a shadow instead of a child of the King who has been given a new nature.
God rested from His creative work, but He has continued working His plan for sinners to cease working every day
and enter His Sabbath Rest (Heb. 3:1-4:11).
Yes, there is only one Gospel per Gal. 1:6-9 and Eph. 4:4,
and Heb. 7:11-10:1 explains how it was foreshadowed in the OT.
How it was preached to Abraham is indicated in Rom. 4:1-25.
No, just want God warned would happen. What He predicts always comes true.
Taking what others say out of context with half truths, context left out, is just exposing oneself to God. Nothing more nothing less.
In order to believe Him as a Christian, one must not kick against the goad of what He says in the NT,
which is the primary source of our knowledge of the Gospel.
Paul as a Pharisee kicked against converting from belief in Judaism, I as a Baptist kicked against converting from belief in Perseverance,
and you as a Sabbatarian kick against converting from belief that the Sabbath Law is moral or still mandatory.
That Jesus is LORD of the Sabbath Mark2:28 made for man Mark2:27 which is not the word for Jew and came to magnify His laws Isa42:21, not destroy Mat5:17 its easier for heaven and earth to pass, before a jot or tittle of the law to fail. Luke16:17 Heaven and earth are still here. Keeping our own traditions over the commandments of God makes the word of God of no effect and our worship to Him in vain. Mat15:3-14 Mark7:7-13 I would consider His NT teachings because the God of the NT is the same God as the OT.
The issue is not that the God of the Bible was not clear, the issue is in believing Him. People believe of Him, just not in Him because if they did they would do what He asks Luke6:46-48
Everything. He fulfilled the entire legal requirement of the Old Covenant so we could be released from the old rules and live by the Spirit.If He didn't fulfill it all, then "It is finished" was a lie. You are still staring at the invoice asking if the check cleared, while the King is already handing you the keys to the house. You should read yours starting with:
“So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith. But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian,”
Galatians 3:24-25 ESV
It’s the same fear tactic that almost all cults use to maintain control. You can’t leave or God will be mad. You can't question the leader or God will be mad. Eventually, a member ends up protecting the prophet and the blueprint more than the King they supposedly worship. If your faith relies on threats of wrath to keep people in line, you aren't following a Shepherd, You’re just serving a system that’s afraid of the light.
The Scripture doesn't say leaving EGW- it says not keeping the commandments of God. Rev14:12 Rev12:17 EGW can't save anyone, she points us to the God who can save us and bless us Isa56:2 and sanctify us Eze20:12 because we can't do this ourselves Isa66:17 we need God Eze20:20. Why the devil is so angry with those who keep God's commandment because Psa 119:165 Great peace have those who love Your law, And nothing causes them to stumble.
The devil wants us serving him Rom6:16KJV Dan7:25 not God Isa56:6 so attacking the people who believe we should keep God's commandments and serve Him, Isa56:6 by calling them cults, Judaizes, and whatever other names they can think of, same spirit that did that to Jesus. Matthew 12:22-32,Luke 11:14-23 John 8:44-47 They rarely use Scripture and when they do its taken completely out of context. Just as the devil did when he tempted Jesus.
These type of attacks are not new. The professed people of God are the ones who killed the prophets and crucified our Savior all in the name of God. Nothing new under the sun, different day. God warned this would happen and it will continue to intensify as the man-made sabbath Sunday Dan7:25 goes into Law where now people can say the Sabbath-keepers are breaking the law just as they did to Jesus. John 8:44-47 Breaking the man-made laws, not the commandments of God.
The devil wants us serving him Rom6:16KJV Dan7:25 not God Isa56:6 so attacking the people who believe we should keep God's commandments and serve Him, Isa56:6 by calling them cults, Judaizes, and whatever other names they can think of, same spirit that did that to Jesus. Matthew 12:22-32,Luke 11:14-23 John 8:44-47 They rarely use Scripture and when they do its taken completely out of context. Just as the devil did when he tempted Jesus.
These type of attacks are not new. The professed people of God are the ones who killed the prophets and crucified our Savior all in the name of God. Nothing new under the sun, different day. God warned this would happen and it will continue to intensify as the man-made sabbath Sunday Dan7:25 goes into Law where now people can say the Sabbath-keepers are breaking the law just as they did to Jesus. John 8:44-47 Breaking the man-made laws, not the commandments of God.
All Ellen did was carry on the Methodist tradition, the traditional church tradition, of focusing
on the tablet of stone. Ellen highlighted the fourth commandment and that's all she did. Her
health advice is redundant because a vegetarian diet does not guarantee a longer life. Too many
science studies have concluded there is no difference, between a vegetarian diet and a meat diet.
The Catholic Church placed it's flock under the ten commandments and the other churches
followed that tradition. Problem was, the ten commandments are the law of Moses. The Christian
world in the nineteenth century was under the law not under grace, and that was worldwide.
Not until public education became standard across the world that the Bible was widely read.
Did the truth come out that Gentiles are not, in fact, under the Mosaic law.
What a twisted and broken Christian history we have.
Yep, heaven and earth are still here, and Messiah has fulfilled the OC Law as well as Messianic Prophecy,
despite you disbelieving NT teachings. Hallelujah!
@GWH this will serve you too.
Here i need to invite you to do some honest searching of your own before drawing the conclusions you are drawing.
You are assuming that it is finished means the moral law and the commandments are abolished. But what if it is finished means something more specific than that? What if what was finished was the sacrificial system, the penalty of sin, the requirement for animal blood, the Levitical priesthood and every ceremonial shadow that pointed forward to Christ? Because that is exactly what the prophets said He would fulfill. And fulfilling those things does not require abolishing the eternal moral character of God expressed in the Ten Commandments.
Now here is the homework I genuinely want to encourage you to do because it will change the way you read this entirely. Go and find the prophecies about Jesus in the Old Testament. Not just one or two. All of them. Because Jesus did not come out of nowhere. He was announced, described and predicted in extraordinary detail centuries and in some cases thousands of years before He was born. And understanding what those prophecies said He would fulfill is the key to understanding what it is finished actually means.
Here are the books where you will find them and I am giving you the map but encouraging you to make the journey yourself because what you discover will stay with you far longer than anything I could simply hand you:
Start with Genesis. The very first prophecy about Jesus is found in Genesis 3:15 where God tells the serpent that the seed of the woman will crush his head. Then look at Genesis 22 where Abraham offers Isaac on Mount Moriah and God provides a substitute. The entire scene is a breathtaking picture of the cross painted thousands of years before it happened.
Then go to Deuteronomy 18:15-19 where Moses himself, the very man who received the Ten Commandments, prophesied that God would raise up a prophet like himself from among the people and that everyone must listen to Him. Jesus quoted this about Himself and Peter confirmed it was fulfilled in Christ. (Acts 3:22-23). Moses spoke of Jesus. The man who received the commandments pointed forward to the One who would confirm them.
Then look at Psalm 22 written by David approximately 1000 years before the cross. Read it slowly and carefully. My God my God why hast thou forsaken me. They pierced my hands and my feet. They cast lots for my clothing. Every detail of the crucifixion described in precise and stunning detail a thousand years before crucifixion even existed as a method of execution.
Then go to Psalm 110 where David describes a priest forever after the order of Melchizedek. The writer of Hebrews explains this is Jesus as our eternal High Priest replacing the Levitical priesthood. That is something fulfilled at the cross. The priesthood. Not the moral law.
Then read Isaiah 53 in its entirety. This was written approximately 700 years before the birth of Jesus and it describes His suffering, His rejection, His death as a substitute for sinners and His resurrection with a precision that makes the hair stand up on the back of your neck when you read it knowing what you know about what actually happened. He was wounded for our transgressions. He was bruised for our iniquities. The chastisement of our peace was upon Him. With His stripes we are healed. All of it. Written 700 years before it happened.
Then look at Micah 5:2 written 700 years before the birth of Jesus which names Bethlehem specifically as the birthplace of the one whose goings forth have been from of old from everlasting. The eternal one born in Bethlehem. Predicted 700 years in advance.
Then go to Zechariah 9:9 written 500 years before Palm Sunday which describes the king coming to Jerusalem riding on a donkey. Jesus fulfilled this to the letter on the day we now call Palm Sunday.
Then look at Zechariah 11:12-13 written 500 years before the betrayal which names the exact price of thirty pieces of silver that would be paid for the betrayal of the shepherd and then thrown to the potter in the house of the Lord. Judas fulfilled this in precise detail without knowing he was doing so.
Then read Zechariah 12:10 which describes the one they pierced and the mourning that follows. And Zechariah 13:7which says strike the shepherd and the sheep will be scattered, quoted by Jesus Himself in the garden the night of His arrest. (Matthew 26:31).
Then look at Daniel 9:24-27 where the prophet gives a precise mathematical timeline of weeks of years pointing to the exact moment of the appearance and cutting off of the Messiah. Scholars who have worked through this chronology carefully have landed within days of the crucifixion. Written 500 years before it happened.
Now here is why all of this matters for your argument. Every single one of these prophecies is about what Jesus would do in His first coming. His birth. His life. His ministry. His betrayal. His suffering. His death. His resurrection. His priesthood. His role as the final sacrifice. These are what it is finished refers to. The fulfillment of every promise, every picture, every shadow and every type that pointed forward to the cross.
But notice something important. Not one of these prophecies says He would come to abolish the moral law or the Ten Commandments. Not one of them predicts that the eternal character of God expressed in the commandments would be set aside. In fact Moses who wrote the commandments also prophesied that a prophet would come who everyone must listen to. And that prophet, Jesus, said with His own voice:
Think not that I am come to destroy the law or the prophets. I am not come to destroy but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you till heaven and earth pass away one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law till all be fulfilled. (Matthew 5:17-18 KJV)
The One whose coming was prophesied by Moses confirmed the commandments Moses received. The One who cried it is finished on the cross said in the same week keep my commandments if you love me. (John 14:15). The cross and the commandments are not in competition. They never were. The cross dealt with the penalty for breaking the commandments. It did not abolish the commandments themselves.
So please do the homework. Go through those books. Read those prophecies carefully. Ask yourself honestly what they say He came to fulfill. And then ask whether any of them predict the abolishment of the Ten Commandments commonly called the moral law. The answer will speak for itself. And it will be far more convincing coming from your own honest searching than from anything anyone can simply hand you in a forum reply.