God didn't rest from sin. He rested from His work. If our rest is modeled after the rest of God, the rest spoken of cannot be a rest from sin. So...is the rest for us modeled after the rest God entered into?
The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?
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Your own words reveal that you have not entered into rest. I realize that you don't understand this, but you continue to work for your salvation. What Jesus accomplished on the cross is not sufficient for you. You don't actually know what it is to live, yet not you; Christ living in you.
I never said He did. Those are your words not mine.
Because its not, its modeled after the seventh day Sabbath rest which started before sin. Gen2:3 Exo20:11 Exo20:8-11
Two different rests as already shown by Scripture. If you wish you continue engaging if you can please also use Scripture because trying to reason over human ideas and not Scripture I find it not to be fruitful.
You know the words. Unfortunately, you don't know their reality.
No. There is only 1 rest, and that in Christ. The emphasis of the rest is relationship with Christ and not relationship to the law. Unfortunately, you have not entered into this rest.
Your words, not God's. There are many different rest in Scripture, its there if you wish to study it.
No one knows who is in Christ but Him, so pretending one has that power is only something they will have to be accountable come judgement day because only God knows our heart, not strangers.
Mat 12:36 But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment.
7 :1Judge not, that you be not judged. 2 For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. 3 And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? 4 Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me remove the speck from your eye’; and look, a plank is in your own eye? 5 Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.
6 “Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them
Best I take the advice of Scripture and move on. Be well.
Say again? (temp. breaking from personal protocall )
Sorry but REST FROM SIN? What the hee haw? must be the democratic wing of the SDA
This whole mashup is becoming nothing less than fiction, unless of course this was an attempt at humor? prolly not
Sad what people call the Scriptures
Psa 38:3 There is no soundness in my flesh because of thine anger; neither is there any rest in my bones because of my sin.4 For mine iniquities are gone over mine head: as an heavy burden they are too heavy for me.
People underestimate sin and sadly do not allow the Bible to define it.
Our salvation is from sin Mat1:21, we are not saved in sin Heb10:26-30 Sin is breaking the law of God 1John3:4 God's version, not mans James 2:11 Mat5:19-30
Jesus is our Savior why would He not give us rest from sin if that's what our salvation is from why Jesus is responding to Psa 38:3
Mat 11:28;Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
Psa 38:3 There is no soundness in my flesh because of thine anger; neither is there any rest in my bones because of my sin.4 For mine iniquities are gone over mine head: as an heavy burden they are too heavy for me.
Sadly, not everyone accept this gift because of a harden heart of rebellion, sin and disobeidence
Heb 3: 7 Therefore, as the Holy Spirit says:
“Today, if you will hear His voice,
8 Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion,
In the day of trial in the wilderness,
9 Where your fathers tested Me, tried Me,
And saw My works forty years.
10 Therefore I was angry with that generation,
And said, ‘They always go astray in their heart,
And they have not known My ways.’
11 So I swore in My wrath,
‘They shall not enter My rest.’ ”
12 Beware, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God; 13 but exhort one another daily, while it is called “Today,” lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. 14 For we have become partakers of Christ if we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast to the end, 15 while it is said:
“Today, if you will hear His voice,
Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion.”
16 For who, having heard, rebelled? Indeed, was it not all who came out of Egypt, led by Moses? 17 Now with whom was He angry forty years? Was it not with those who sinned, whose corpses fell in the wilderness? 18 And to whom did He swear that they would not enter His rest, but to those who did not obey? 19 So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.
Psa 38:3 There is no soundness in my flesh because of thine anger; neither is there any rest in my bones because of my sin.4 For mine iniquities are gone over mine head: as an heavy burden they are too heavy for me.
People underestimate sin and sadly do not allow the Bible to define it.
Our salvation is from sin Mat1:21, we are not saved in sin Heb10:26-30 Sin is breaking the law of God 1John3:4 God's version, not mans James 2:11 Mat5:19-30
Jesus is our Savior why would He not give us rest from sin if that's what our salvation is from why Jesus is responding to Psa 38:3
Mat 11:28;Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
Psa 38:3 There is no soundness in my flesh because of thine anger; neither is there any rest in my bones because of my sin.4 For mine iniquities are gone over mine head: as an heavy burden they are too heavy for me.
Sadly, not everyone accept this gift because of a harden heart of rebellion, sin and disobeidence
Heb 3: 7 Therefore, as the Holy Spirit says:
“Today, if you will hear His voice,
8 Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion,
In the day of trial in the wilderness,
9 Where your fathers tested Me, tried Me,
And saw My works forty years.
10 Therefore I was angry with that generation,
And said, ‘They always go astray in their heart,
And they have not known My ways.’
11 So I swore in My wrath,
‘They shall not enter My rest.’ ”
12 Beware, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God; 13 but exhort one another daily, while it is called “Today,” lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. 14 For we have become partakers of Christ if we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast to the end, 15 while it is said:
“Today, if you will hear His voice,
Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion.”
16 For who, having heard, rebelled? Indeed, was it not all who came out of Egypt, led by Moses? 17 Now with whom was He angry forty years? Was it not with those who sinned, whose corpses fell in the wilderness? 18 And to whom did He swear that they would not enter His rest, but to those who did not obey? 19 So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.
No, like Cameron said, God did not rest from sin. He rested from His work. God never sinned.
Again, your martyrdom is like this:
So let me clarify my question: Can you rest from your work today, April 14, 2026?
You guys just hear what ya want and create a whole made up argument that no one ever stated. The Scriptures are clear, God will sort it out in His time.
Pro 9:7“He who corrects a scoffer gets shame for himself,
And he who rebukes a wicked man only harms himself.
8 Do not correct a scoffer, lest he hate you;
Rebuke a wise man, and he will love you.
Best I move on. Be well.
Can you rest from your work today, April 14, 2026?
we walk in the Spirit in full knowledge of Christ's teachings and we Abide in Him, listen to Him and Follow Him.
If we can, by our own efforts, meet the standards of righteousness the Law has set for us, then we do not need the Lamb of God's sacrifice to save us. If we can through study and effort attain the image of God we do not need the Holy Spirit to "write Gods words on our hearts." What I am reading here amounts to nothing less than hostility towards Christ and denial of His gospel of salvation.Right. Like I said I am done with the exchange of smart aleck replies and scripture flinging as if from medieval catapults and the general denial of the blood of Jesus being the actual catalyst of the covenant as described in the New Testament....I think I've made that pretty clear?
I belonged to a Messianic congregation some yrs back and enjoyed it quite a bit. The problems came when the leaders entered into an arguement with an actual Jewish congregation and the atmosphere changed and I moved anyway so that ended that. (unrelated to the arguement) But no problem on what day a person goes to church and the conviction they have is between them and God.
I am very clear on what is going on here. Very. Clear. I had it brought home to me that this is a spiritual attack against the gospel and like I said, I have not seen one like it here before. The commandments are not the gospel and when someone says they follow Jesus but deny He stated the covenant was in His blood by ignoring it...I can only come to one conclusion.
I actually feel like something has been lifted off of me by the decision to stop responding and I prob should have done that some time back....but of course I cannot tell others what to do but I hope the actual problem of replacing the blood of Christ with commandments hits home with believers if it has not before.
I have been called the devil by someone in this thread for starters and the conviction some have that all who worship on Sunday bare the mark of the beast is beyond anything in my prior knowledge of SDA people but they are not all of that belief. Even so, at least a couple here are.
I have had an education as I am sure others are also at this point and I wish everyone would ignore the instigators and the op but that will not happen. I don't mind answering honest posts or questions here, but otherwise I am done as I said.
Thanks
I used to encounter this sort of thing when I lived in Israel. I used to refer to it as the "spirit of antichrist" I found that reasoning with them is virtually impossible because they are unable to engage in a thoughtful debate of the issues. Over time, such people become increasingly intractable to the point that they are willing to posit that all believers who do not keep Shabbat will be damned in the Last Judgement. Is THIS what it comes down to?
Remembering that even as Jesus taught the Law to those who were under the Law, we do not intrude into a covenant to which we have never belonged.
Galatians 3:2-7 KJV
2) This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
3) Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
4) Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain.
5) He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
6) Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.
7) Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
Much love!
What does "being under the mercy seat" mean to you? Was the content of what God wrote on tablets of stone different or more authoritative than what Moses, though inspiration, wrote down on papyrus scrolls? On what do you base your idiosyncratic typology? Did these ideas come out of the visions and revelations of Ellen White?So it doesn't start with lust of the heart? That where Jesus said adultery starts.
You are free to share the Scripture where the law of Moses what was written in the book by Moses is under the mercy seat of God.Its what i keep asking.
Yeah, see, we who are in Christ begin in the Spirit. The Spiritual man and man of the Sinai law are incompatible.
"Nevertheless what does the Scripture say? “Cast out the bondwoman and her son, for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.” 31So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman but of the free."
The reasons we see some of the Apostles teaching the law is because in the end you can't keep all of it and therefore is a failed Covenant on the part of the human.
It's kind of like saying oh so you're going to follow the law so here are a couple more things you aren't doing so keep going.... it is encouraging the person to discover their inability to keep it
they're not teaching the law so that people will follow it only that if you follow it you must follow it perfectly therefore there must be some other method to achieve the goals of the Mosaic law and in the New Covenant that is Faith in Jesus Christ and who he says he is