The Trump is terrible thread...

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New York Times-------4-23-15.

Clintons foundation got 2.35 million dollars for the deal,
America, got the shaft!!!!!
 
Mitspa said:
what? I think the deficit was about 500 billion after Reagan ... after Obama ...22 Trillion
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a little closer to three trillion but still the principle remains the same - he did deficits don't matter and so did Cheney
 
peacenik said:
a little closer to three trillion but still the principle remains the same - he did deficits don't matter and so did Cheney
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Well a deficit that is a small fraction of GDP is a big difference from what we see now.
 
Mitspa said:
Here in America we call it stupidity ...wages in America are about the same now as when Reagan was in office ...in fact in the construction field they was much higher before the flood of illegals was let in by both the Democrats and Republicans
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We try to be a bit more subtle because people will call you a racist if you tell them things are a lot worse off since 1994. The excuse is apartheid and inflation but please don't criticize the government of the time.
 
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Mitspa said:
Well a deficit that is a small fraction of GDP is a big difference from what we see now.
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In order for principles to be of any value they must be applied on a uniform basis - since right wingers had no objection to Reagan/Bush I/Bush II deficits, they cannot possibly object to Obama deficits. And just a reminder that Obama asked Congressional Republicans to close all foreign tax shelters which they refused to do. Therefore, they get much of the blame for the debt.
 
During the 80s the Rand was stronger than the US Dollar but today we are paying more than R15 for a dollar. A blind person can see this is not inflation but miss management but the masses can be manipulated by fear. Just look at our friends in Zimbabwe and you will see that fear is a big motivater.
 
GandalfTheWhite said:
We try to be a bit more subtle because people will call you a racist if you tell them things are a lot worse off since 1994. The excuse is apartheid and inflation but please don't criticize the government of the time.
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Yea ...South Africa was a contradiction in many ways ..but it was wealthy and the people was better off overall under that government economically. I wonder if the PC world will ever really be able to look at that situation in a honest way? Its kinda like Obama ..no one wants to admit he is a utter failure because he is black...but they reject the black folks that could lead us, because they don't walk around with a chip on their shoulder.
 
Right wingers still refuse to admit Bush II (like his Republican predecessors) was the biggest failure since Hoover. Why else would a Democrat be in the White House today?
 
peacenik said:
Right wingers still refuse to admit Bush II (like his Republican predecessors) was the biggest failure since Hoover. Why else would a Democrat be in the White House today?
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You really don't talk to too many Right Wingers, do you?
 
peacenik said:
Right wingers still refuse to admit Bush II (like his Republican predecessors) was the biggest failure since Hoover. Why else would a Democrat be in the White House today?
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Have you heard how Trump won the nomination or about the Tea Party ...both are a rejection of Bush in large part.
 
Desdichado said:
You really don't talk to too many Right Wingers, do you?
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I post on four websites with only one being lib. The rest are right wing. All act as if Bush was the closest thing to the long awaited Messiah. And, like so many here, they absolutely h@te it when it is proven that he was a dismal failure.

Besides, my best pal is a right winger. He knows better than to try to debate me in politics. ;)
 
peacenik said:
I post on four websites with only one being lib. The rest are right wing. All act as if Bush was the closest thing to the long awaited Messiah. And, like so many here, they absolutely h@te it when it is proven that he was a dismal failure.

Besides, my best pal is a right winger. He knows better than to try to debate me in politics. ;)
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haha..why would anyone be afraid to debate you? Because you don't use rational thought or logic?
 
Mitspa said:
Have you heard how Trump won the nomination or about the Tea Party ...both are a rejection of Bush in large part.
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Tea Party was a rejection of Obama, not Bush.

Trump won because he showed lots of guts and because he tore up his opposition. Remember that Jeb Bush started out way ahead, then Cruz took the lead. But he overcame them both with his strong arm tactics. But what makes it all even more ironic is how Trump was always viewed as a lib until now (see my earlier post with all those quotes from right wingers).

How interesting that up to just a couple of years ago he was a lib but is now champion of the right. What a turn around!
 
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