The US will send a carrier strike group to the Eastern Mediterranean in support of Israel

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Komentaja

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Why should the USA even do nothing? Israel outguns and outnumbers the people of Gaza by a mile. Gazans got NOTHING on Israel, it can hardly be considered a war. They are already contained and surrounded in Gaza with no electricity, they are incapable of inflicting harm on Israel.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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The problem of the American marrative is that oir media is so epically dishonest. They will tell the story they want you to think.
So im posting this link to show there is another side of the story.
https://youtube.com/@MondoweissVideos?si=SMBZ-pXsdmEUKtnU
I dont call them Israel or Jew, I call them Talmudists for a reason.
 

Gideon300

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I'm not ignorant...I just glossed over many things. I can get into extreme details but that would take all night.

As far as so called Palestinians "choosing" Hamas to govern them that's a joke. Hamas themselves did the choosing...no one else. Even the PLA government was voted in by Hamas....so any attempts at a real election were never realized.

In the meantime Hamas controls the government, schools, and propaganda...no dissent is allowed.
The reality is that Palestinians reject the right of Israel to exist. This has been the case since 14th May 1948, well before Hamas arose. Palestinians teach their children to hate Israel. Until now, Israel allowed 18,000 Gazans to work in Israel. They supplied electricity and water. And that in spite of constant harrasment by Hamas. Israel has the right to exist and to defend itself.
 

Gideon300

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Why should the USA even do nothing? Israel outguns and outnumbers the people of Gaza by a mile. Gazans got NOTHING on Israel, it can hardly be considered a war. They are already contained and surrounded in Gaza with no electricity, they are incapable of inflicting harm on Israel.
They've already done considerable harm to Israel. Murdering babies is not harm? Murdering people going about their daily lives is not harm? Do you know how hard urban warfare is? Hamas will lose, but the cost to Israel will be high. And that is before considering the possibility that Iran will get directly involved.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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The reality is that Palestinians reject the right of Israel to exist. This has been the case since 14th May 1948, well before Hamas arose. Palestinians teach their children to hate Israel. Until now, Israel allowed 18,000 Gazans to work in Israel. They supplied electricity and water. And that in spite of constant harrasment by Hamas. Israel has the right to exist and to defend itself.
That state has been just as evil to the palestinians. This isnt a one sided thing, that pendulum swings both ways.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Pilgrimshope

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They've already done considerable harm to Israel. Murdering babies is not harm? Murdering people going about their daily lives is not harm? Do you know how hard urban warfare is? Hamas will lose, but the cost to Israel will be high. And that is before considering the possibility that Iran will get directly involved.
hamas is just a name every ten years another name arises for the same exact thing hezbollah Islamic jihad isis ext they are just young people who grow up on these war zones and are radicalized into soldiers for the same entity in Iran.

It’s like an octopus with many tentacles one gets destroyed and three grow back in its place because of the conditions of hate and terror and war on both sides

israel will crush “ hamas “ and in Five years there will be another name for the exact same thing in Gaza and it will repeat again same cycle until the end
 

Nehemiah6

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israel will crush “ hamas “ and in Five years there will be another name for the exact same thing in Gaza and it will repeat again same cycle until the end
I believe this time Israel is going to be ruthless. They have already said so. Therefore the cycle may not continue over there. But Hamas also wants to create terror in the USA.
 
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I can see both sides I think. Israel used to be Muslim and Muslims didn't hate us till we took their land for our Bible. How would you feel if they gave Mormons a state? It was native American Bible supposedly. I don't really think it helped Jews. After Hitler they would have done better to become Americans where we have rights. They live through terrorism when they could be at a football game eating hotdogs. Anyways I would tell them come to the USA. We Christians of America love Jews.
 

Pilgrimshope

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I believe this time Israel is going to be ruthless. They have already said so. Therefore the cycle may not continue over there. But Hamas also wants to create terror in the USA.
yeah I agree israel is going to hit them like a hammer harder than ever . what I’m saying is as soon as the eradicate Hamas , from the other 2 millions Palestinians there’s just going to be another generation of new terrorists carrying on the same war but they’ll be called some new Islamic word

to those little children they grow up being taught israel is the great evil of the world and America is his brother in that evil . But also they have to flee and return to rubble because they are being bombed while they’re being taught evil israel ect

a you could never stop this issue until there are no Palestinian people and to bc solder such a thing as genocide is evil itself

airs a never ending cycle those who remain after this I’ll use it as props Ganda to radicalize the next generations os all I’m saying until armegeddon when god ends it

“And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭20:9-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬


This is when the cycle will end is all I’m saying brother Jesus return will end it when Israel seems like they are about to be annhialated by the many nations surrounding her
 

shittim

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I believe Moses was ordered to cleanse the land else the original inhabitants would be trouble forever?
 

JohnDB

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I can see both sides I think. Israel used to be Muslim and Muslims didn't hate us till we took their land for our Bible. How would you feel if they gave Mormons a state? It was native American Bible supposedly. I don't really think it helped Jews. After Hitler they would have done better to become Americans where we have rights. They live through terrorism when they could be at a football game eating hotdogs. Anyways I would tell them come to the USA. We Christians of America love Jews.
Mormons have a state...it's Utah.
 

JohnDB

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I believe Moses was ordered to cleanse the land else the original inhabitants would be trouble forever?
Not really relevant anymore. Spilt milk at this point.

What it is....is how do we move forward?
 

Gideon300

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I can see both sides I think. Israel used to be Muslim and Muslims didn't hate us till we took their land for our Bible. How would you feel if they gave Mormons a state? It was native American Bible supposedly. I don't really think it helped Jews. After Hitler they would have done better to become Americans where we have rights. They live through terrorism when they could be at a football game eating hotdogs. Anyways I would tell them come to the USA. We Christians of America love Jews.
Israel has never been Muslim. Islam was formed centuries after Israel left Egypt to occupy the promised land. Muslims have always hated Jews and Christians. You should learn a bit of history before commenting.

The reason the Jews went to what is called Palestine is because God drew them there. Jews have never been truly safe anywhere. America is increasingly antisemitic. It is God who restored Israel, not man. God will defend Israel even when all seems lost. America will be powerless to help. Who wants to listen to American boasting for a 1,000 years?