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Radius

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Now that is REDICULOUS. Those circles would fit on the OPHEL, which is Mt. Zion.
Your not a Farm boy are you, and neither is man who did the Video.
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At this point I don't think we're going to get anywhere. I'd need to see digs and archeological evidence of the Temple being on the Ophel or anywhere other than the Mount. I can appreciate your dedication to this subject, but I can't accept your findings without more evidence. Give me anything! Give me a foundation stone under the soil, give me artifacts, anything! You are basically taking this all on faith. With the amount of evidence suggesting the Temple was on the Temple Mount, I can't make the switch just yet to it being on the Ophel as you suggest.
 

cv5

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The fortress was much larger than the Temple. The so called temple mount fits its dimensions perfectly.

Also. there is no "threshing floor" on the so called temple complex.. the threshing floor that became the temple is found south of the so called temple mount. and everything that goes with it. there is no water supply needed for the alter in the temple complex. but there is one south, in fact they have found what the OT claimed it to be from the springs.

Like I said. If you do not wish to look at the evidence and watch the videos. I do not know what to say
100% bro. The evidence is more than conclusive.
 

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At this point I don't think we're going to get anywhere. I'd need to see digs and archeological evidence of the Temple being on the Ophel or anywhere other than the Mount. I can appreciate your dedication to this subject, but I can't accept your findings without more evidence. Give me anything! Give me a foundation stone under the soil, give me artifacts, anything! You are basically taking this all on faith. With the amount of evidence suggesting the Temple was on the Temple Mount, I can't make the switch just yet to it being on the Ophel as you suggest.
He did a lot of it. Go back to the begining.
 

Radius

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100% bro. The evidence is more than conclusive.
You know what else was fits the dimensions perfectly? The pre-Herodian Temple Mount north wall

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At the bottom of a staircase in the northwest corner of the higher section, Ritmeyer noticed a stone with a unique chiseled edge. The stone resembled the pre-Herodian blocks visible on the eastern wall of the platform. He also noted that the stone was not aligned with the rest of the raised platform.

Ritmeyer believed the stone was not placed there as a step, but was actually part of the original temple platform wall built by King Hezekiah (eighth century B.C.). Such a find would be helpful in locating the original temple.

“This step was the archaeological beginning of my research into the pre-Herodian Temple Mount,” Ritmeyer said.

Ritmeyer tested his theory by measuring the space between the stone and the eastern wall. It was exactly 500 cubits — the measurement listed in the Mishnah, a book on Jewish law from the second century A.D. He then measured the pre-Herodian foundation visible on the eastern wall from the north to the south. It also was exactly 500 cubits."

https://www.baptistpress.com/resour...logist-recounts-discovery-of-solomons-temple/
 

Everlasting-Grace

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not one stone....pertaining to the buildings! That's what they were talking about IN CONTEXT. It's like you are actively trying not to understand Scripture on purpose. Very weird.
You keep saying the same thing

I showed you from eyewitness evidence that NOTHING stood except the fortress..

Yoou keep ignoring that evidence.. So I am going to presume you just do not want to see evidence.. You just want to believe what you believe
 

cv5

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At this point I don't think we're going to get anywhere. I'd need to see digs and archeological evidence of the Temple being on the Ophel or anywhere other than the Mount. I can appreciate your dedication to this subject, but I can't accept your findings without more evidence. Give me anything! Give me a foundation stone under the soil, give me artifacts, anything! You are basically taking this all on faith. With the amount of evidence suggesting the Temple was on the Temple Mount, I can't make the switch just yet to it being on the Ophel as you suggest.
Take a look and you will change your mind. Secular Israeli archaeologists definitely have found the correct zone.....they are getting close. The true location lies within the precincts of the City of David, Israeli territory.


 

Everlasting-Grace

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You know what else was fits the dimensions perfectly? The pre-Herodian Temple Mount north wall

"
At the bottom of a staircase in the northwest corner of the higher section, Ritmeyer noticed a stone with a unique chiseled edge. The stone resembled the pre-Herodian blocks visible on the eastern wall of the platform. He also noted that the stone was not aligned with the rest of the raised platform.

Ritmeyer believed the stone was not placed there as a step, but was actually part of the original temple platform wall built by King Hezekiah (eighth century B.C.). Such a find would be helpful in locating the original temple.

“This step was the archaeological beginning of my research into the pre-Herodian Temple Mount,” Ritmeyer said.

Ritmeyer tested his theory by measuring the space between the stone and the eastern wall. It was exactly 500 cubits — the measurement listed in the Mishnah, a book on Jewish law from the second century A.D. He then measured the pre-Herodian foundation visible on the eastern wall from the north to the south. It also was exactly 500 cubits."

https://www.baptistpress.com/resour...logist-recounts-discovery-of-solomons-temple/
NOT ONE STONE

You keep trying to show us stones, part of the temple..

NOT ONE STONE

NOTHING left but the FORT..
 

Radius

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NOT ONE STONE

You keep trying to show us stones, part of the temple..

NOT ONE STONE

NOTHING left but the FORT..
Im gonna try to say this one last time, but im losing patience. NOT ONE STONE of the BUILDING on top of the mount....NOT the retaining wall that we see today. Jesus wasn't referring to the retaining western wall....He was talking about the building that sit on top (the Temple and other small structures).
 

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Take a look and you will change your mind. Secular Israeli archaeologists definitely have found the correct zone.....they are getting close. The true location lies within the precincts of the City of David, Israeli territory.


Ill watch them..but they have to be more convincing than the video I linked. we'll see. Im open to changing my mind.
 

Everlasting-Grace

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Im gonna try to say this one last time, but im losing patience. NOT ONE STONE of the BUILDING on top of the mount....NOT the retaining wall that we see today. Jesus wasn't referring to the retaining western wall....He was talking about the building that sit on top (the Temple and other small structures).
losing patience? Yes I am

EYEWITNESSES said there was NOTHING LEFT EXCEPT THE FORT.

Your THEORY FAILS
 

Everlasting-Grace

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is the retaining wall the "temple and its buildings"? think hard now.
Is the retaining wall part of the fortress? Which is ALL that the eyewitness saw standing??

Thats means it CAN NOT BE ANY PART OF THE TEMPLE.. Which was utterly destroyed. As the eyewitness said, you could not even tell it was there. Just like Jesus prophesied.
 

cv5

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Ill watch them..but they have to be more convincing than the video I linked. we'll see. Im open to changing my mind.
Bro.....just to let you know, what you have been posting is "old news". No well informed person believes those obsolete theories anymore.
I have been chasing down the true location of the Temple for over 20 years. There is no doubt, not the slightest, that my odyssey is over.

BTW....the discovery of the true location of the Temple is yet ANOTHER indicator that we are very very near the end times.

The Muslim complex being of gentile occupation on the Antonia Fortress is just what you would expect BTW.

Consider these verses and how they confirm everything VCO and those videos proclaim: That the Temple was adjacent to and lower in elevation than the 36 acre Antonia Fortress.

Act 21:32
Who immediately took soldiers and centurions, and ran down unto them: and when they saw the chief captain and the soldiers, they left beating of Paul.
Act 21:35
And when he came upon the stairs, so it was, that he was borne of the soldiers for the violence of the people.
Act 21:37
And as Paul was to be led into the castle, he said unto the chief captain, May I speak unto thee? Who said, Canst thou speak Greek?
 

2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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I finally got through this very long thread that's been in the making for the past few years. Hats off to VCO for keeping vigil over any fresh news about the building of the third temple!

-=<*>=-

This is my stance....

After Daniel was told all these fantastic prophecies, he said:

Daniel 12:8 - I heard, but I did not understand. So I asked, “My lord, what will the outcome of all this be?”

Then the angel near him said:

Daniel 12:9 He replied, “Go your way, Daniel, because the words are rolled up and sealed until the time of the end. 10 Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand.

So right now things are not clear to me even if it seems clear as day to some people. I think VCO makes a good case about where the temple might be, but so does the other camp.

What I'm going to do is just wait and see where God actually lets the temple be built and I'll accept it wherever that may be. All I know clearly at this point is that it's going to be built.

-=<*>=-

Thank you, VCO, for your dedication to this issue! :)(y):giggle:
 

soberxp

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Jesus said that he could rebuild it in three days.
And he ________ after three days.

Jesus said that he could rebuild it in three days.
And he ________ after three days.

Jesus said that he could rebuild it in three days.
And he ________ after three days.


Jesus said that he could rebuild it in three days.
And he ________ after three days.

Jesus said that he could rebuild it in three days.
And he ________ after three days.
 

VCO

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At this point I don't think we're going to get anywhere. I'd need to see digs and archeological evidence of the Temple being on the Ophel or anywhere other than the Mount. I can appreciate your dedication to this subject, but I can't accept your findings without more evidence. Give me anything! Give me a foundation stone under the soil, give me artifacts, anything! You are basically taking this all on faith. With the amount of evidence suggesting the Temple was on the Temple Mount, I can't make the switch just yet to it being on the Ophel as you suggest.

NO! YOU NEVER READ THE EVIDENCE. Believe what you have been taught to believe, without thinking. You see, I was once in the other camp. Until I saw the real Evidence.

Bye, now.
 

VCO

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Bro.....just to let you know, what you have been posting is "old news". No well informed person believes those obsolete theories anymore.
I have been chasing down the true location of the Temple for over 20 years. There is no doubt, not the slightest, that my odyssey is over.

BTW....the discovery of the true location of the Temple is yet ANOTHER indicator that we are very very near the end times.

The Muslim complex being of gentile occupation on the Antonia Fortress is just what you would expect BTW.

Consider these verses and how they confirm everything VCO and those videos proclaim: That the Temple was adjacent to and lower in elevation than the 36 acre Antonia Fortress.

Act 21:32
Who immediately took soldiers and centurions, and ran down unto them: and when they saw the chief captain and the soldiers, they left beating of Paul.
Act 21:35
And when he came upon the stairs, so it was, that he was borne of the soldiers for the violence of the people.
Act 21:37
And as Paul was to be led into the castle, he said unto the chief captain, May I speak unto thee? Who said, Canst thou speak Greek?
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Yes, Lord, it's time us to come HOME.
 

Everlasting-Grace

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Jesus said that he could rebuild it in three days.
And he ________ after three days.

Jesus said that he could rebuild it in three days.
And he ________ after three days.

Jesus said that he could rebuild it in three days.
And he ________ after three days.


Jesus said that he could rebuild it in three days.
And he ________ after three days.

Jesus said that he could rebuild it in three days.
And he ________ after three days.
He did rebuild it in three days.

the spiritual temple

You can not make an abomination of desolation n a spiritual temple. You must have a physical Holy Place.

hence, the temple must be rebuilt. Even if in sin..
 

soberxp

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He did rebuild it in three days.

the spiritual temple

You can not make an abomination of desolation n a spiritual temple. You must have a physical Holy Place.

hence, the temple must be rebuilt. Even if in sin..
It's not about sin, it's about worshiping God. What God tells me and teaches me is that Jesus is the one who rebuilt the temple three days later, with the Father in him.

They don't understand God's word. They are doing something to fulfill their own will.

We're not worshiping Israel, we're worshiping God and word of God.

Render therefore unto Israel the things which be Israel's, and unto God the things which be God's.
 

Everlasting-Grace

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It's not about sin, it's about worshiping God. What God tells me and teaches me is that Jesus is the one who rebuilt the temple three days later, with the Father in him.

They don't understand God's word. They are doing something to fulfill their own will.

We're not worshiping Israel, we're worshiping God and word of God.

Render therefore unto Israel the things which be Israel's, and unto God the things which be God's.
it’s about prophesy and what God said would happen. It is his reputation at stake.

When God says something will happen. It will happen..

If we do not like what God says, and make a symbolized interpretation out of the text. God reputation as one who can tell the future is stained..