Those Who Deny Sin in a Believer

[preacher4truth]

oh my the dreaded internet threat....are you 2 or 50?

That behavior and the anger that goes along with it? Un-Christlike, callow, and a flesh parade, and especially so from one who alleges he's been to seminary. Sad to behold.

 

[dcontroversal]

dc - testimony after testimony is you abusing people or just stone walling them.

This is not standing for truth and letting the facts play out is discussion so the conviction
of reality hits home, it is being a religious follower who wants to pick off their opponents
through any means possible, and abuse is just one of the arsenal.

Now I do believe you have a good heart and have a sincere contribution to make, so I
wonder what has turned you into such a hard hearted cantacronous person?

Testimony after testimony ONLY from people who teach and believe contrary to what I believe.....so this point is moot Peter....the very things you all accuse me of you all have just done in the last xx posts....you guys accuse, attribute motive, embellish what we say, twist what we say and when we respond you pile on with the above rigmarole......so.....whatever mate!

 

[dcontroversal]

That behavior and the anger that goes along with it? Un-Christlike, callow, and a flesh parade, and especially so from one who alleges he's been to seminary. Sad to behold.

More accusations....man....you guys are doing the work of your father....he is the accuser of the brethren....sin upon sin...keep piling it on pal

 

[PeterJens]

Testimony after testimony ONLY from people who teach and believe contrary to what I believe.....so this point is moot Peter....the very things you all accuse me of you all have just done in the last xx posts....you guys accuse, attribute motive, embellish what we say, twist what we say and when we respond you pile on with the above rigmarole......so.....whatever mate!

I have not called you anything other than cantankerous which is how you behave, while you
have called me satanic dooming people to hell. Which do you consider the accurate statement?

One is a total judgement of someones whole spiritual standing, the other is a reflection of how
you respond as above.

I read a post from one guy who said he wasted 1 year+ on you. I have to say to troll like that
is either a great skill or they were rather dumb at spotting your style.

And I know why you guys do not engage with me, you cannot wind my up no matter how bad
your behaviour. I read the pelegian street evangelists do this to provoke a heated argument
just to get attention. Have you been learning from them?

 

[dcontroversal]

I have not called you anything other than cantankerous which is how you behave, while you
have called me satanic dooming people to hell. Which do you consider the accurate statement?

One is a total judgement of someones whole spiritual standing, the other is a reflection of how
you respond as above.

I read a post from one guy who said he wasted 1 year+ on you. I have to say to troll like that
is either a great skill or they were rather dumb at spotting your style.

And I know why you guys do not engage with me, you cannot wind my up no matter how bad
your behaviour. I read the pelegian street evangelists do this to provoke a heated argument
just to get attention. Have you been learning from them?

Pull up where I specifically called YOU satanic...and so what...there have been numerous people come and go who do nothing but cause issues...mouth, embellish, accuse etc...and almost to a t their description is not necessarily the facts or correct....and their argument was generally over one point....so..again your FACTS you cite really have no basis...in a court of law hearsay is exactly that....hearsay and to take the words of one that disagrees with me as facts or proof of my ways or motive is hilariously short of the actual truth

So...should I take everyone's word about you and how you are from the ones that disagree with you...is that fair...NO

 

[truthhurts]

Testimony after testimony ONLY from people who teach and believe contrary to what I believe.....so this point is moot Peter....the very things you all accuse me of you all have just done in the last xx posts....you guys accuse, attribute motive, embellish what we say, twist what we say and when we respond you pile on with the above rigmarole......so.....whatever mate!

Like EG, I have read many of your past posts and the most glaring thing I see is that when you are called to defend your position, you retreat and make personal attacks and bloviate about your special revelation knowledge and line upon line prowess...you went of the rails here on this thread and have not once tried to answer why you used 2 Tim 2.13 out of context and how 2 Tim 2.1-13 is line upon line and rightly divided with Matt 10 and Psalm 138....

That seems to be your constant MO around here.....when a retreat happens, name calling begins, personal achievements are touted, and the refusals to answer based on the grounds of superior revelation occurs, it usually means you got nothing but a doctrine......judging from your comments and past posts, I am guessing Missionary Baptist at some point...

 

[preacher4truth]

More accusations....man....you guys are doing the work of your father....he is the accuser of the brethren....sin upon sin...keep piling it on pal

Frankly? You're a hypocrite and blinded with anger which results in your lies, false accusations, callow behavior, name calling.

Now you're calling others lost.

I seriously doubt you'd run your mouth like this in my personal presence. I could be wrong, but it's doubtful. You also twist Scriptures and what others say. Basically you do not know how to get along with others, being that you're callow and angry.

You, sir, with all due respect, have lot's of growing up to do. Your behavior on here is hardly Christian, and that is a fact.

 

[dcontroversal]

Like EG, I have read many of your past posts and the most glaring thing I see is that when you are called to defend your position, you retreat and make personal attacks and bloviate about your special revelation knowledge and line upon line prowess...you went of the rails here on this thread and have not once tried to answer why you used 2 Tim 2.13 out of context and how 2 Tim 2.1-13 is line upon line and rightly divided with Matt 10 and Psalm 138....

That seems to be your constant MO around here.....when a retreat happens, name calling begins, personal achievements are touted, and the refusals to answer based on the grounds of superior revelation occurs, it usually means you got nothing but a doctrine......judging from your comments and past posts, I am guessing Missionary Baptist at some point...

I don't think so..I have referenced my years of study and seminary like twice out of almost 19,000 posts and there is no way you have read MANY of my past posts.....I have been open to learning and instruction and debate...but when people start making accusatory comments or belittling comments I step up to the plate...as a matter of fact you have been nothing but derogatory towards me....I was not referencing Psalm 138 and I did not use Timothy out of context...like I said previously...just because I do not post ALL the scriptures I am thinking of at any given time concerning any given subject does not mean that that is the only scripture I use...

SEE....instead of approaching me and saying can you explain...you immediately attack with your out of context statement...how do you think MOST would respond....

and your embellished last line is not correct...if I had referenced my PERSONAL achievements more than 2 or three times out of almost 19,000 posts then that would be a valid argument....you judged my motive and accused me of why I said what I said which was not correct....then come back with belittling mouthy comments....so....is that the pot calling the kettle black?

 

[wsblind]

Yeah, you got em riled DC! Good work. I would guess...........a DIVINE good work.

 

[dcontroversal]

Frankly? You're a hypocrite and blinded with anger which results in your lies, false accusations, callow behavior, name calling.

Now you're calling others lost.

I seriously doubt you'd run your mouth like this in my personal presence. I could be wrong, but it's doubtful. You also twist Scriptures and what others say. Basically you do not know how to get along with others, being that you're callow and angry.

You, sir, with all due respect, have lot's of growing up to do. Your behavior on here is hardly Christian, and that is a fact.

POINT MADE

QUOTE=dcontroversal;3049442]More accusations....man....you guys are doing the work of your father....he is the accuser of the brethren

 

[Sully]

this is all that comes to mind.....

 

[dcontroversal]

Frankly? You're a hypocrite and blinded with anger which results in your lies, false accusations, callow behavior, name calling.

Now you're calling others lost.

I seriously doubt you'd run your mouth like this in my personal presence. I could be wrong, but it's doubtful. You also twist Scriptures and what others say. Basically you do not know how to get along with others, being that you're callow and angry.

You, sir, with all due respect, have lot's of growing up to do. Your behavior on here is hardly Christian, and that is a fact.

The bolded is funny! that actually made me laugh.....you don't know me at all pal

 

[PeterJens]

Pull up where I specifically called YOU satanic...and so what...there have been numerous people come and go who do nothing but cause issues...mouth, embellish, accuse etc...and almost to a t their description is not necessarily the facts or correct....and their argument was generally over one point....so..again your FACTS you cite really have no basis...in a court of law hearsay is exactly that....hearsay and to take the words of one that disagrees with me as facts or proof of my ways or motive is hilariously short of the actual truth

So...should I take everyone's word about you and how you are from the ones that disagree with you...is that fair...NO

dc - man to man my friend, I know exactly what you think of me and why.
So when it is so obvious, why do you want to hide it and then play all innocent.

If you really followed Jesus as you claim I would be talking to a loving individual whose
heart is to build people up in the faith and bring a blessing to them.

Labelling people because of a few words written and then condemning them, is not the
way the Lord works ever. Are you a burnt out evangelical who sold out to the grace
crowd and is now embittered and wants revenge. I know the feeling because hurt does
that to one, and it exagurates revenge to a rediculous degree.

EG and g7 are driven like this, super legalists who needed some freedom from the prison
they had lived most of their lives in. So I wonder what is your prison, and how can I help
bring Jesus and real love to your heart, because you know like I do, we all need the cross
and that love that declares He loves us. Praise the Lord and amen.

 

[wsblind]

The bolded is funny! that actually made me laugh.....you don't know me at all pal

It is funny. Like we wouldn't stand for the truth if a little man was standing face to face with us?

I would prolly pull a Sirk and throat punch him. But I would repent afterwards.

 

[PeterJens]

A true story

At university a guy gave me a hard time about faith and why I believed. I told him the reasons
and my heart. It turned out he wanted to be confirmed in the church, and needed to know
if it was sensible or not, or if he was just being nuts.

So I count no one as an enemy as not deserving love and respect. But I will describe things
as they are, and not beat around the bush. Everything you do to us is because our Father has
given you permission to chastice and build us up by sharing in His suffering for the sake of
the gospel, Amen

 

[wsblind]

Everything you do to us is because our Father has
given you permission to chastice and build us up by sharing in His suffering for the sake of
the gospel, Amen

Your suffering for the sake of YOUR gospel. Not His Gospel.

His Gospel is believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and You shall be saved forever.PERIOD.

You are suffering for what you have added after the PERIOD.

 

[dcontroversal]

dc - man to man my friend, I know exactly what you think of me and why.
So when it is so obvious, why do you want to hide it and then play all innocent.

If you really followed Jesus as you claim I would be talking to a loving individual whose
heart is to build people up in the faith and bring a blessing to them.

Labelling people because of a few words written and then condemning them, is not the
way the Lord works ever. Are you a burnt out evangelical who sold out to the grace
crowd and is now embittered and wants revenge. I know the feeling because hurt does
that to one, and it exagurates revenge to a rediculous degree.

EG and g7 are driven like this, super legalists who needed some freedom from the prison
they had lived most of their lives in. So I wonder what is your prison, and how can I help
bring Jesus and real love to your heart, because you know like I do, we all need the cross
and that love that declares He loves us. Praise the Lord and amen.

Peter this view falls short.....you should study more....Jesus used many different types and personalities some were

a. Loving like John
b. Bold like the Sons of Thunder
c. Brash and straightforward like Paul
d. Sarcastic like Elijah
e. John the Baptist who raked everyone over the coals

God has been using imperfect men to preach his perfect message from day one....and to accuse such as you have falls short...you have no clue who I am, how many people I have witnessed to softly and meekly, how many I have raked over the coals for wishy washy false doctrine and religious dogma, etc......You assume that I am this way ALL the time..not taking into account that the only people I stand against are those who wish to embellish the work of Christ with their works and self righteousness....you read attitude and anger into my posts which is impossible to do...NO one can judge motive and or attitude by a post on a web site without seeing facial expression and or unless it is obvious like some of the posts above directed at me.....

and by the way...I love Jesus and love the truth...

 

[PeterJens]

Peter this view falls short.....you should study more....Jesus used many different types and personalities some were

a. Loving like John
b. Bold like the Sons of Thunder
c. Brash and straightforward like Paul
d. Sarcastic like Elijah
e. John the Baptist who raked everyone over the coals

God has been using imperfect men to preach his perfect message from day one....and to accuse such as you have falls short...you have no clue who I am, how many people I have witnessed to softly and meekly, how many I have raked over the coals for wishy washy false doctrine and religious dogma, etc......You assume that I am this way ALL the time..not taking into account that the only people I stand against are those who wish to embellish the work of Christ with their works an self righteousness....you read attitude and anger into my posts which is impossible to do...NO one can judge motive and or attitude by a post on a web site without seeing facial expression and or unless it is obvious like some of the posts above directed at me.....

and by the way...I love Jesus and love the truth...

Now my friend, you do have a better side then. I was not saying you were one thing, I was
saying you had come across one way and I was wondering what the real dc was like.

And I am not saying you do not have your reasons for your behaviour, I am reaching out
because I know Jesus's love reaches out from me to all I meet, in whatever form it may be.

And again I do not limit God, I know he uses all people and every way and circumstance.
I praise my Lord daily for His blessing of me and all the things I have done, even when
I give up he still uses it to His ends.

I find this false divide in the work of the Lord pointless and not why I came to cc, but
as with all things I want to understand and move onwards.

So dc, God bless you and may you have a good rest tonight, and maybe tomorrow
you may find friends in the Lord rather than people you think are enemies, In His Name
Our friend and Lord Jesus Christ. Amen

 

[Roughsoul1991]

You don't debate a thing pal....you like everyone else who push works and your false gospel....nothing but peddling falsehoods ahahahh hilarious

I dont have to defend myself from this statement.

I take great effort into posting accuracy and truth so my post speak for themselves. But of course its only logical to say they dont speak to Calvinist because my beliefs are not calvinist

 

[Roughsoul1991]

I don't think so..I have referenced my years of study and seminary like twice out of almost 19,000 posts and there is no way you have read MANY of my past posts.....I have been open to learning and instruction and debate...but when people start making accusatory comments or belittling comments I step up to the plate...as a matter of fact you have been nothing but derogatory towards me....I was not referencing Psalm 138 and I did not use Timothy out of context...like I said previously...just because I do not post ALL the scriptures I am thinking of at any given time concerning any given subject does not mean that that is the only scripture I use...

SEE....instead of approaching me and saying can you explain...you immediately attack with your out of context statement...how do you think MOST would respond....

and your embellished last line is not correct...if I had referenced my PERSONAL achievements more than 2 or three times out of almost 19,000 posts then that would be a valid argument....you judged my motive and accused me of why I said what I said which was not correct....then come back with belittling mouthy comments....so....is that the pot calling the kettle black?

Why not ignore it and keep posting evidence of your belief? I prefer to put the fire out than add more fuel.