Look at Google maps at the north pole. Where is all the ice? They said if it all melted, many coastal cities would be flooded. How can the satellites map the ocean depth if ice is blocking the view of the water? Why would direction be different on a globe or flat surface. Why blame me for pointing out that if you are standing on this roughly spherical object in Canada, you have to look through this object to see the alledged south pole as a place where a flag is planted to mark the spot. You are the one defending that reality. Are you defending the ability of looking in a circle instead of a straight line?
To all of you non flat earthers.
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I'm not defending your erroneous misconception at all. I am defending the well-known concept of direction. When I look towards the South from my present location, I am looking in the direction that, if continued around the face of the Earth, would eventually lead to the South Pole. I am not claiming to be looking in a straight line towards the South Pole.
Most reasonably intelligent people grasp this concept, even if they believe that the Earth is flat.
Most reasonably intelligent people grasp this concept, even if they believe that the Earth is flat.
Ok, i think i know what you mean...
When the SC sits sideways then its 25-30 degrees left or right of south.
That small margin doesn't change the fact your still facing south...
But, you acknowledge that crux is to the south, right...
So then, my original question is still unanswered...
How can we all be looking south at the crux on this model?
Even if the world isn't exactly half dark there are still millions of us looking in opposite directions at the SC at any given moment
Thats the only specific thing im looking at here. Nothing else. Im not arguing for BE cos i think parts of it are wrong
There is one southern cross and one south pole
There are FE models that can still adhere to this fact with a south pole. Not this one but
When the SC sits sideways then its 25-30 degrees left or right of south.
That small margin doesn't change the fact your still facing south...
But, you acknowledge that crux is to the south, right...
So then, my original question is still unanswered...
How can we all be looking south at the crux on this model?
Even if the world isn't exactly half dark there are still millions of us looking in opposite directions at the SC at any given moment
Thats the only specific thing im looking at here. Nothing else. Im not arguing for BE cos i think parts of it are wrong
There is one southern cross and one south pole
There are FE models that can still adhere to this fact with a south pole. Not this one but
I tried to explain it from an FE POV - he developed "an attitude" - I gave up.
@Moses_Young started talking to him.
I decided to disengage...
Since then - I have been working a lot, keeping some strange hours, and trying to have more of a life outside of CC.
@Moses_Young started talking to him.
I decided to disengage...
Since then - I have been working a lot, keeping some strange hours, and trying to have more of a life outside of CC.
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This is what I do not understand about a flat earth.
The way we see it going from night to day, and from day to night.
How does it happen that way on a flat earth.
If it is a flat earth then there would have to be a dividing point between light and dark for it is not always dark and it is not always light.
That means on a flat earth it would be dark in our area and then we would see the light coming in the distance but it is still dark in our area, and then the light would pass through our area and we would see the dark going away in the distance until it is gone.
The same way it is light in our area going to dark.
But we do not observe it that way and the light does not chase the darkness that way.
But it makes sense on a round earth for when the sun comes up, boom, it is light all across the earth we can see, and when the sun goes down, boom, it is dark all across the earth that we can see.
On a flat earth it does not make sense how we observe it going from dark to light, and light to dark.
It only makes sense on a round earth.
Also if a person believes in gravity then on a flat earth everyone would be pulled to the center of the earth.
But on a round earth no matter where you stand you have the same amount of earth under you so the gravity goes downward keeping the person in place and not flying off to the right or left.
The way we see it going from night to day, and from day to night.
How does it happen that way on a flat earth.
If it is a flat earth then there would have to be a dividing point between light and dark for it is not always dark and it is not always light.
That means on a flat earth it would be dark in our area and then we would see the light coming in the distance but it is still dark in our area, and then the light would pass through our area and we would see the dark going away in the distance until it is gone.
The same way it is light in our area going to dark.
But we do not observe it that way and the light does not chase the darkness that way.
But it makes sense on a round earth for when the sun comes up, boom, it is light all across the earth we can see, and when the sun goes down, boom, it is dark all across the earth that we can see.
On a flat earth it does not make sense how we observe it going from dark to light, and light to dark.
It only makes sense on a round earth.
Also if a person believes in gravity then on a flat earth everyone would be pulled to the center of the earth.
But on a round earth no matter where you stand you have the same amount of earth under you so the gravity goes downward keeping the person in place and not flying off to the right or left.
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At least you give them (in your mind) the option of having gray matter...
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boggles the mind actually
The light and the dark do not change like an electric [light] switch turning on/off. The light is not one inch away from the dark. It changes gradually over a much greater distance.
(However, it is at times faster in the southern latitudes than in the northern latitudes - during the southern summer - because the sun is moving faster.)
What we actually see:
~ Before we can see the sun itself in a direct line-of-sight, we see 'light' appearing from the point on the horizon where we will eventually see the sun 'rise' from.
~ This 'light' is not "equally distributed" across the entire horizon; rather, it is "contoured around" the sun-rise point on the horizon. It is brightest there and grows more dim outward in all directions in the sky.
~ This 'light' spreads out in all directions as time passes - "chasing" the dark across the sky. By the time we see the sun itself, most of the sky has been "lightened* - [generally] from-east-to-west - with the most-dark area [still] in the western sky.
~ As the sun 'rises' from the horizon, the entire sky will be "lightened" more-and-more until the entire sky is 'light' and there is no 'dark'.
~ When the sun 'sets', the reverse happens.
~ The 'dark' then "follows" the 'light' as it disappears beyond the horizon.
~ The 'light' is not "equally distributed" across the entire horizon; rather, it is "contoured around" the sun-set point on the horizon.
~ The 'light' eventually disappears, leaving the 'dark' to fill the sky.
This matches the FE model. It does not match the BE model.
Nowhere on earth does it change from complete-total-dark to complete-total-light in an instant. Nor does it change from complete-total-light to complete-total-dark in an instant.
It always takes some amount of time.
In the north latitudes, it can take hours for the full sun-rise or sun-set to occur.
In the south latitudes, it can occur in only minutes.
And, the fact that it is different in the north latitudes than it is in the south latitudes is evidence for the FE model.
It makes perfect sense - because - it perfectly matches what we actually see.
It only makes sense in the FE Model because it only matches the FE Model in terms of what we actually see.
(However, it is at times faster in the southern latitudes than in the northern latitudes - during the southern summer - because the sun is moving faster.)
What we actually see:
~ Before we can see the sun itself in a direct line-of-sight, we see 'light' appearing from the point on the horizon where we will eventually see the sun 'rise' from.
~ This 'light' is not "equally distributed" across the entire horizon; rather, it is "contoured around" the sun-rise point on the horizon. It is brightest there and grows more dim outward in all directions in the sky.
~ This 'light' spreads out in all directions as time passes - "chasing" the dark across the sky. By the time we see the sun itself, most of the sky has been "lightened* - [generally] from-east-to-west - with the most-dark area [still] in the western sky.
~ As the sun 'rises' from the horizon, the entire sky will be "lightened" more-and-more until the entire sky is 'light' and there is no 'dark'.
~ When the sun 'sets', the reverse happens.
~ The 'dark' then "follows" the 'light' as it disappears beyond the horizon.
~ The 'light' is not "equally distributed" across the entire horizon; rather, it is "contoured around" the sun-set point on the horizon.
~ The 'light' eventually disappears, leaving the 'dark' to fill the sky.
This matches the FE model. It does not match the BE model.
Nowhere on earth does it change from complete-total-dark to complete-total-light in an instant. Nor does it change from complete-total-light to complete-total-dark in an instant.
It always takes some amount of time.
In the north latitudes, it can take hours for the full sun-rise or sun-set to occur.
In the south latitudes, it can occur in only minutes.
And, the fact that it is different in the north latitudes than it is in the south latitudes is evidence for the FE model.
It makes perfect sense - because - it perfectly matches what we actually see.
It only makes sense in the FE Model because it only matches the FE Model in terms of what we actually see.
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well they have it but are unduly influenced by miscomprehension and the fear of disbelieving God and being condemned for it by God, due to a belief that espouses ridiculous, but well-intentioned fear of disbelief in what they perceive as the truth in scripture
boggles the mind actually
boggles the mind actually
There is good perception.
There is proper understanding.
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