TRINITY IS A FALSE TEACHING.

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Re: The Koran teaches the Trinity...

that was added by the catholic church when they were translating and printing the bible in order to promote the trinity doctrine. I skimmed through this it may have things I don't agree with but for the most part i liked what i saw.
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You've been misinformed with some very bad information. The historical transmission of Matthew 28.19, as well as its geographic distribution is so widely attested that it rules out any possibility of it being a product of the Roman Catholic Church. Of course, if Matthew 28.19 were corrupt, then of course we would expect at least some mss to capture the reading you espouse. However, this is not the case.

Surely, if the text had originated in a particular region such as Rome at a later time, then we would expect conflicting data with other mss of that time, especially by mss from other geographic locales.

Do you really think that the Roman Catholic Church, or maybe even Constantine had the ability to round up every mss from around the world and insert these words into the text?
 
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A while back I was able to construct a list of 20+ early church citations of the baptismal verbiage in Matthew 28.19, which can be seen here: http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/37238-matthew-28-19-question.html

“That is the Spirit of whom the Lord declares, ‘For it is not you that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaks in you.’ And again, giving to the disciples the power of regeneration into God, He said to them, ‘Go and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.’” – Irenaeus, “Against Heresies,” Book III, Chapter XVII

“The Father’s Word, therefore, knowing the economy (disposition) and the will of the Father, to wit, that the Father seeks to be worshipped in none other way than this, gave this charge to the disciples after He rose from the dead: ‘Go ye and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.’” – Hippolytus, “Against the Heresy of One Noetus”

"For the law of baptizing has been imposed, and the formula prescribed: ‘Go,’ He saith, ‘Teach the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.’" – Tertullian, “On Baptism,” Chapter XIII

After His resurrection He promises in a pledge to His disciples that He will send them the promise of His Father, and lastly, He commands them to baptize into the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost.” – Tertullian, “Against Praxeas,” Chapter XXVI

“Accordingly, after one of these had been struck off, He commanded the eleven others, on His departure to the Father, to go and teach all nations, who were to be baptized into the Father, and into the Son, and into the Holy Ghost. Immediately, therefore, so did the apostles, whom this designation indicates as the sent.” – Tertullian, “Prescription Against Heretics,” Chapter XX

“The Lord, when, after His resurrection, He sent forth His apostles, charges them, saying, ‘All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you.’” – Cyprian, Epistle XXIV:2

“For the Lord, after His resurrection, sending His disciples, instructed and taught them in what manner they ought to baptize, saying, ‘All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go, therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.’” – Cyprian, Epistle LXXII:5

“Finally, when, after the resurrection, the apostles are sent by the Lord to the heathens, they are bidden to baptize the Gentiles in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. How, then, do some say, that a Gentile baptized without, outside the Church, yea, and in opposition to the Church, so that it be only in the name of Jesus Christ, everywhere, and in whatever manner, can obtain remission of sin, when Christ Himself commands the heathen to be baptized in the full and united Trinity?” – Cyprian, Epistle LXXII:18

“And He laid His right hand upon me, and said, ‘Fear not; I am the First and the Last, and He that liveth and was dead; and, lo, I am living for evermore and I have the keys of death and of hell.’ Likewise in the Gospel, the Lord after His resurrection says to His disciples: ‘All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go therefore and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you.’" – Cyprian, “Three Books of Testimonies Against the Jews,” Chapter II:26

“This is the sure and immovable teaching and tradition, begun by our Lord after his resurrection from the dead, when he gave his apostles the command: ‘Go ye, make disciples of all nations, baptising them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.’This then was preserved and fulfilled by his successors, the blessed apostles, and by all the bishops prior to ourselves who have died in the holy church and shared in its life; and it has lasted down to us, because it is firmer than the whole world. For, he said, ‘heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.’” – Dionysius of Alexandria, “First Letter to Xystus”

“And His voice as it were the voice of many waters. The many waters are understood to be many peoples, or the gift of baptism that He sent forth by the apostles, saying: ‘Go, teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.’” – Victorinus of Rome, Commentary on the Apocalypse, Chapter I

“Seest thou that all through Scripture the Spirit is preached, and yet nowhere named a creature? And what can the impious have to say if the Lord sends forth His disciples to baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit?" – Gregory Thaumaturgus, “A Sectional Confession of Faith,” Section XIII

You may perhaps also be asking this: Since the Lord himself told the disciples to baptize all nations in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit , why does the Apostle employ here the name of Christ alone in baptism? For he says, ‘We have been baptized into Christ,’ although surely it should not be deemed a legitimate baptism unless it is in the name of the Trinity. But look at Paul’s good sense since, indeed, in the present passage he is not interested in discussing the subject of baptism as much as the death of Christ, in whose likeness he argues that we should die to sin and be buried with Christ.” – Origen, Commentary on Romans V:8

“Moreover, three times sent forth from the ark, flying about through the air over the water, it already signified the sacraments of our Church. Whence also the Lord Christ charges upon Peter, and moreover also upon the rest of His disciples, ‘Go and preach the Gospel to the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.’ That is, that that same Trinity which operated figuratively in Noah's days through the dove, now operates in the Church spiritually through the disciples.” – Anonymous, c. 255, “Against Novation”

“Neither must you esteem what our Lord said as being contrary to this treatment: ‘Go, teach the nations; baptize them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.’ Because, although this is true and right, and to be observed by all means in the Church, and moreover has been used to be observed, yet it behooves us to consider that invocation of the name of Jesus ought not to be thought futile by us on account of the veneration and power of that very name, in which name all kinds of power are accustomed to be exercised, and occasionally some even by men outside the Church.” – Anonymous, c. 250, “On Re-Baptism”

Then Probus arising from the ground fell again upon the couch, and arising early he came to Paul, and finding him baptising many in the name of the life-giving Trinity, he said, ‘My lord Paul, if only I were worthy to receive baptism, behold the hour.’ Paul said to him, ‘Son, behold the water is ready for the cleansing of those that come to Christ.’ Therefore immediately taking off his garments, and Paul laying hold of him, he leapt into the water, saying, ‘Jesus Christ, son of God, and everlasting God, let all my sins be taken away by this water.’ And Paul said, ‘We baptise thee in the name of the Father and Son and Holy Ghost.’ After this he made him to receive the Eucharist of Christ." – The Acts of Xantippe and Polyxena, Section XXI

“The blessed Andrew weeping said, ‘What shall I say or what shall I speak concerning thy mercy, O God, that thus thou at all times cleavest to the lowly, and takest care for those in ignorance, being without arrogance and full of mercy?’ And having completed the prayer he baptised the maidens in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.” –The Acts of Xantippe and Polyxena, Section XXX

“Therefore the great Paul straightway taking her hand, went into the house of Philotheus, and baptised her in the name of the Father and of the Son and the Holy Ghost. Then taking bread also he gave her the Eucharist saying, Let this be to thee for a remission of sins and for a renewing of thy soul.” – The Acts of Xantippe and Polyxena, Section XIV

“Since the Lord in His Gospel said, ‘Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt should have lost its savour, wherewith shall it be salted? It is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out of doors, and to be trodden under foot of men.’ And again, after His resurrection, sending His apostles, He gave them charge, saying, ‘All power is given unto me, in heaven and in earth. Go and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.’” – Lucius of Castra Galbae, c. 257, Seventh Council of Carthage: The Judgment of Eighty-Seven Bishops on the Baptism of Heretics

“The truth of our Mother the Catholic Church, brethren, hath always remained and still remains with us, and even especially in the Trinity of baptism, as our Lord says, ‘Go ye and baptize the nations, in the name of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.’ Since, then, we manifestly know that heretics have not either Father, or Son, or Holy Spirit, they ought, when they come to the Church our Mother, truly to be born again and to be baptized; that the cancer which they had, and the anger of damnation, and the witchery of error, may be sanctified by the holy and heavenly laver.” – Munnulus of Girba, c. 257, Seventh Council of Carthage: The Judgment of Eighty-Seven Bishops on the Baptism of Heretics

“God and our Lord Jesus Christ, teaching the apostles with His own mouth, has entirely completed our faith, and the grace of baptism, and the rule of the ecclesiastical law, saying: ‘Go ye and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.’ Thus the false and wicked baptism of heretics must be rejected by us, and refuted with all detestation, from whose mouth is expressed poison, not life, not celestial grace, but blasphemy of the Trinity.” – Euchratius of Thenae, c. 257, Seventh Council of Carthage: The Judgment of Eighty-Seven Bishops on the Baptism of Heretics

“We know that heretics are worse than Gentiles. If, therefore, being converted, they should wish to come to the Lord, we have assuredly the rule of truth which the Lord by His divine precept commanded to His apostles, saying, ‘Go ye, lay on hands in my name, expel demons.’ And in another place: ‘Go ye and teach the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.’” – Vincentius of Thibaris, c. 257, Seventh Council of Carthage: The Judgment of Eighty-Seven Bishops on the Baptism of Heretics

 
Re: The Koran teaches the Trinity...

Then explain to me why every other verse referring baptism doesn't include the trinity.
 
Re: TRINITY IS A FALSE TEACHING

Which proves nothing.

Scripture also never says the word "sovereign" in relation to God,
but it is everywhere taught in Scripture,
just as the Trinity is shown in the NT (shown here).

And Jesus said:
". . .baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of
the Holy Spirit," (Mt 28:19)
that was added by the catholic church when they were translating and printing the bible in order to promote the trinity doctrine.
These Scriptures (here) showing the Trinity were not added by the Catholic Church.
 
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So for all you that do not believe in the Triune God head, let me ask you all a question.

Does Satan seek to counterfeit everything about God?
 
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Elin said:
Then you are writing incorrectly, because
Jesus said "he" six times in Jn 16:13-14.

An "it"
doesn't have intelligence - Lk 12:12; Jn 14:26, 15:26, 16:13; Ro 8:27; 1Co 2:12-13; 1Jn 2:20, 27;
doesn't have a will - Ac 16:6-7; 1Co 12:11,
doesn't have affections - Eph 4:30;
is not sinned against - Ac 5:3; Mt 12:31-32;
doesn't speak - Ac 8:29, 10:19-20, 11:12, 13:2, 21:11; Rev 2:7;
doesn't decide - Ac 15:28;
doesn't forbid - Ac 16:7;
doesn't testify - Ac 5:32; Jn 15:26; Ro 8:16; Heb 2:4;
doesn't search into secrets - 1Co 2:10
doesn't show the future - Jn 16:13b; 1Tim 4:1; 1Pe 1:11, 2Pe 1:21;
doesn't appoint and send out missionaries - Ac 13:4, 20:28;
doesn't intercede - Ro 8:26-27;
doesn't enable - Ac 2:4; Ro 8:26;
doesn't counsel, teach, guide, convict, comfort - Jn 14:16, 26, 15:26, 16:7;
doesn't lead - Gal 5:18;
doesn't generate Christ's body and soul - Mt 1:18.

The Holy Spirit is everywhere personified throughout the NT

because the Holy Spirit is a "he," not an "it," who can be poured.

That is the testimony of the NT word of God,
and it is not for us to say that a spirit cannot be poured.
Nonsensical. . .you write things like: an "it" doesn't enable. Oh? My stairs enable me to get upstairs. My computer enables me to continue explaining myself ad nauseam in this conversation. An "it" doesn't have an intelligence? I refer to animals all the time who have intelligences. Lesser intelligences? Sure. But intelligences all the same.

(Elsewhere in this thread, not by you, but amusing all the same - I've heard that "it"s don't comfort, which is news to the comforter on my bed.)
It would help if you knew the NT usage of these verbs.
I realize that you're going to continue fighting and moving the goalposts until you can convince yourself, like our ballplayer over here, that you've hit a home run.

You will eventually find some fault. I have plenty of sins to confess. "Not thinking biblically" because I took your pithy "an 'it' does not" list at face value is not one of them.
Your response above regarding "enable" and "comfort" shows otherwise.
 
God please show me what is the truth!
A couple of presentations to consider:

I. What Jesus said about himself:

  • He came from heaven (Jn 3;13, 6:38, 42, 62)
  • and was sent by God (Jn 5:36-40, 10:36, 13:3, 16:28)
  • to die as a ransom for the sins of many (Mt 20:28, 26:28, Jn 10:11),
  • with power to forgive sin (Mt 9:2-6),
  • to conquer Satan (Jn 12:31; Lk 10:18; Mk 1:23-26, 5:6-13),
  • to speak for God (Jn 7:16, 8:25-28, 12:44-45, 49-50, 14:10, Lk 9:35, 10:16),
  • and to judge all mankind (Jn 5:22, 27, 8:26, 12:48, Mt 25:31-33),
  • as the exclusive way to God (Jn 14:6; Ac 4:12) - excludes all other ways,
  • the source of all truth and life (Jn 1:4, 5:25-26, 6:39-40),
  • the decisive factor in the eternal destiny of every man (Jn 3:18-19, 36, 5:24, 6:40, 8:24-25),
  • possessing all authority (power) in heaven and earth (Mt 26:64, 28:18; Lk 10:22, Jn 13:3, 13),
  • equal with God (Jn 5:18, 8:19, 12:44-45, 14:7-9, 16:15, 17:10); i.e., doing what God does (Jn 5:19)
    • as the Father works, so the Son works (miracles) - (Jn 5:17)
    • as the Father gives life, so the Son gives life (Jn 5:21)
    • as the Father is Judge, so the Son is Judge (Jn 5:22)
    • as the Father is to be honored, so the Son is to be honored (Jn 5:23)
    • as the Father has (eternal) life in himself, so the Son has (eternal) life in himself (Jn 5:26)
    • as the Father sends with authority and power, so the Son sends with authority and power (Jn 20:21)
    • as the Father confers the kingdom, so the Son confers the kingdom (Lk 22:29)
    • as the Father is Lawgiver, so the Son is Lawgiver (Mt 5:23-47, 12:7-8, 19:9, 21:23-27, chp 23)
  • empowering the apostles to speak for him, as well as for God (Lk 10:16, Jn 13:20)
  • and to recall and understand all things correctly (Jn 14:26, 16:13-15, Lk 24:48-49).
And remember, Jesus said he was speaking exactly what God told him to say
when he made all these claims about himself (Jn 12:49).
And finally, his name is Emmanuel which is "God with us." (Mt 1:23)
Jesus is saying in these staggering claims that he is no less than God.

And that is precisely the way the Jews (who were there) understood him
(Mk 2:3-7; Jn 6:41-42, 10:30-33, 5:18, 8:58-59; 19:7), which is why they had him killed.

II. What the NT says about the Trinity:

See this.

Give these two presentations a hard look, and they may help.
 
Matthew 28:19 & trinity, Is it a valid proof ?

Which proves nothing.

Scripture also never says the word "sovereign" in relation to God,
but it is everywhere taught in Scripture,
just as the Trinity is shown in the NT (shown here).

And Jesus said:
". . .baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit," (Mt 28:19)

Eusebius of Caesarea (a.k.a. Eusebius Pamphili) (c. AD 263 – 339), who’s called “Father of Church History,” quoted Matthew 28:19 in his famous Ecclesiastical History, there was no triune formula in the verse.

The verse read,
Go ye and make disciples of all the nations in my name, teaching them to observe all things, whatsoever I commanded you.”​
He did not quote this verse in this form only once, but no less than 18 times in many of his works written between 300 and 336, namely in his long commentaries on the Psalms, on Isaiah, in his Demonstratio Evangelica and in his Theophany.

The Catholic Encyclopedia, II, page 263:
"The baptismal formula was changed from the name of Jesus Christ to the words Father, Son, and Holy Spirit by the Catholic Church in the second century."

Read more:
Matthew 28:19 & trinity, Is it a valid proof ?
 
Re: TRINITY IS A FALSE TEACHING

I disagree with the Trinity but I let other people have their beliefs, I do not have the greatest understanding of the scriptures I am still learning. And yet when I read I never see direct indication of a Trinity. Rather it all seems to stem from translation and interpretation, which I avoid for the sole reason that I do not misunderstand the word. I am not saying Trinity is untrue I am saying that I would rather focus on what Jesus spoke about, to believe in him, to spread the word, and to love one another.
Does this post (here), carefully considered, shed any light on it for you?
 
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​No. you explain why they specifically say to be Baptized in Jesus name. And regarding your comment on the trinity using verses that say "is" I have NEVER nor will I ever see anywhere in those scriptures that Jesus "represented" or "represents" God. Scripture clearly says that Jesus IS God and clearly puts emphasis on Jesus name as being all-powerful and most important. You cannot just toss things like that out the window.

 
Re: Matthew 28:19 & trinity, Is it a valid proof ?

Eusebius of Caesarea (a.k.a. Eusebius Pamphili) (c. AD 263 – 339), who’s called “Father of Church History,” quoted Matthew 28:19 in his famous Ecclesiastical History, there was no triune formula in the verse.

The verse read,
Go ye and make disciples of all the nations in my name, teaching them to observe all things, whatsoever I commanded you.”​
He did not quote this verse in this form only once, but no less than 18 times in many of his works written between 300 and 336, namely in his long commentaries on the Psalms, on Isaiah, in his Demonstratio Evangelica and in his Theophany.

The Catholic Encyclopedia, II, page 263:
"The baptismal formula was changed from the name of Jesus Christ to the words Father, Son, and Holy Spirit by the Catholic Church in the second century."

Read more:
Matthew 28:19 & trinity, Is it a valid proof ?

Again, this is very bad, misinformed data.

Eusebius did utilize the Trinitarian verbiage, more particularly, in Contra Marcellum I.1.9, I.1.36; Theologia III. 5.22; Theophania 4.8; Letter of Eusebius of Cæsarea to the people of his Diocese. Eusebius also quotes this passage in other forms with absolutely no reference to the alternatively espoused reading (“in My name”), or the traditional Trinitarian baptismal formulae (see Demonstratio Evangelica I.3, I.5, I.6).


The problem still remains for you. You're attempting to put a single witness (who often times paraphrased)on a pedestal, in opposition to every single mss, and every other Church Father of that period. Even other Caesarean witnesses oppose Eusebius on this point, meaning that this very reading could have begun with Eusebius himself. Alternatively, considering Eusebius was from Cæsarea, he may have been using a Cæsarean style text, which often deviates from the other three text-types.

In addition, the citation you utilized from the The Catholic Encyclopedia is a half-quote. Please cite the full thing.
 
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Re: Matthew 28:19 & trinity, Is it a valid proof ?

Eusebius of Caesarea (a.k.a. Eusebius Pamphili) (c. AD 263 – 339), who’s called “Father of Church History,” quoted Matthew 28:19 in his famous Ecclesiastical History, there was no triune formula in the verse.

The verse read,
Go ye and make disciples of all the nations in my name, teaching them to observe all things, whatsoever I commanded you.”​
He did not quote this verse in this form only once, but no less than 18 times in many of his works written between 300 and 336, namely in his long commentaries on the Psalms, on Isaiah, in his Demonstratio Evangelica and in his Theophany.

The Catholic Encyclopedia, II, page 263:
"The baptismal formula was changed from the name of Jesus Christ to the words Father, Son, and Holy Spirit by the Catholic Church in the second century."
However, these Scriptures showing the Trinity are not from the Catholic Church.
 
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​No. you explain why they specifically say to be Baptized in Jesus name. And regarding your comment on the trinity using verses that say "is" I have NEVER nor will I ever see anywhere in those scriptures that Jesus "represented" or "represents" God. Scripture clearly says that Jesus IS God and clearly puts emphasis on Jesus name as being all-powerful and most important. You cannot just toss things like that out the window.


Elin and I do not do not believe that Jesus is solely God's representative, such arguments come from your side of the field, Unitarianism (more particularly those in the Socinian camp), take a gander for yourself.
 
Whether trinity is true early believers took a long while to come up with such doctrine.
But today, one has to accept this doctrine and cannot raise questions or he/she is not considered a true Christian?
Back to medieval times we go.
 
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Elin and I do not do not believe that Jesus is solely God's representative, such arguments come from your side of the field, Unitarianism (more particularly those in the Socinian camp), take a gander for yourself.
You are Very wrong in your assumption about me. I firmly believe that Jesus was is and always will be God. I don't believe the Trinity to persons but rather titles. However, I don't limit Jesus so if God wants to sit next to himself he can and probably will.

Also keep in mind what they say about assumptions.
 
Re: Matthew 28:19 & trinity, Is it a valid proof ?

Eusebius of Caesarea (a.k.a. Eusebius Pamphili) (c. AD 263 – 339), who’s called “Father of Church History,” quoted Matthew 28:19 in his famous Ecclesiastical History, there was no triune formula in the verse.

The verse read,
Go ye and make disciples of all the nations in my name, teaching them to observe all things, whatsoever I commanded you.”​
He did not quote this verse in this form only once, but no less than 18 times in many of his works written between 300 and 336, namely in his long commentaries on the Psalms, on Isaiah, in his Demonstratio Evangelica and in his Theophany.

The Catholic Encyclopedia, II, page 263:
"The baptismal formula was changed from the name of Jesus Christ to the words Father, Son, and Holy Spirit by the Catholic Church in the second century."

Read more:
Matthew 28:19 & trinity, Is it a valid proof ?

I just wanted to add, that a stronger case is to be had if you were able to find multiple witnesses from various locales (Western, Alexandrian, Byzantine, Caesarean) rather than rely on a single witness from a particular locale (Caesarea), where even other witnesses from that area (and even the very author himself) disagrees.

In order to have anything substantial then you would need to provide: (a) occurrences outside of that particular author, and (b) occurrences inside and outside of his geographic locale (the wider attested, the stronger the argument).
 
Whether trinity is true early believers took a long while to come up with such doctrine.
But today, one has to accept this doctrine and cannot raise questions or he/she is not considered a true Christian?
Back to medieval times we go.
It's been in the NT Scrpitures since their beginning.
 
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You are Very wrong in your assumption about me. I firmly believe that Jesus was is and always will be God. I don't believe the Trinity to persons but rather titles. However, I don't limit Jesus so if God wants to sit next to himself he can and probably will.

Also keep in mind what they say about assumptions.

Perhaps you misunderstood what I was saying. I was not assuming you were Socinian. All Socinians are Unitarian, but not all Unitarians are Socinian.

What I have gathered is that you do not believe in distinct persons, Father, Son, Holy Spirit. But rather, you believe these are each titles of the one God? If that is correct, then guess what? You are Unitarian by definition (perhaps modalistic).
 
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Perhaps you misunderstood what I was saying. I was not assuming you were Socinian. All Socinians are Unitarian, but not all Unitarians are Socinian.

What I have gathered is that you do not believe in distinct persons, Father, Son, Holy Spirit. But rather, you believe these are each titles of the one God? If that is correct, then guess what? You are Unitarian by definition (perhaps modalistic).
​Here's an interesting fact when looking up Unitarian this is what I got:
Unitarians maintain that Jesus is solely the "son" of God, but not God himself
Unitarianism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
that statement goes against what I believe therefor: I am not Unitarian.