TRINITY IS A FALSE TEACHING.

[fredjames]

Peace be with you and please let me ask one again;
1. Why did JESUS instruct HIS Disciple this, upon meeting them after HIS Resurrection that is to baptist future believers in the name of the FATHER, SON and the HOLY SPIRIT
2. Why not just in the name of the FATHER only?

This is because of GOD's very own will that this should be as it is spoken and written.

'Trinity' is just a word confessed by the mouth of certain believers who believe in this word that the 'three person' are in reigning power, as 'one' GOD, even today and forever and over most of all, Amen. "The author and the finisher of our faith" according to the written New Covenant, taught to us by the HOLY SPIRIT.

 

[Gjolll]

Good thing this woman is banned, she is an heretick.

I hope she wasn't banned for just saying the Trinity (with a capital 'T'') does not exist.

The distinction is between the trinity (with a small 't') of God's revelation to man on earth, and the composition of God on his throne, which man has arrogated himself power to define by employment of the Trinity with a capital 'T'.

That the composition of God is completely beyond man's capability to apprehend must be the starting point of any argument. Deut 6;4 signifies the unity of God as his most important attribute.


The principal biblical text denying the Roman Catholic Trinity is Heb. 1;3 (and all other passages containing the word hypostasis) where "hypostasis" in used in the singular to denote the "person of God."


On earth, God had been manifested in three ways, as separate persons, which is the reason for the triune (with small 't') baptism.

Additionally we understand that the risen Christ now has his own throne of judgement, as well as sitting on his father's throne. This does not imply more than one God, for the risen Christ and the Father are one God.

It is undeniable that the concept of the godhead has been abused for many hundreds of years by Trinitarians (with a capital 'T') to inflict all manner of persecution, hatred and opprobrium on non-trinitarians whose only 'crime' has been to object to the pagan conception of three separate deities ("hypostases" in the plural) in heaven, and what is a natural corollary of it, that Christ the man was a kind of demi-god who never became a man in the full sense of the term.

Trinitarianism with a capital 'T' asserts that Christ was not just a man. It actually denies the mystery and the reality of the incarnation to a substantial degree by asserting that he retained his 'God' status whilst on earth. But if that were so, how could he die or be be raised again to the "right hand of God," for he would never have left it.

Calvinists should remember that a large part of Christendom regards their principal theologian as a common murderer vis-a-vis Servetus and that the Catholics share equal guilt alongside him as having also condemned him to death.

 

[jackmoore]

Peace be with you and please let me ask one again;
1. Why did JESUS instruct HIS Disciple this, upon meeting them after HIS Resurrection that is to baptist future believers in the name of the FATHER, SON and the HOLY SPIRIT
2. Why not just in the name of the FATHER only?

This is because of GOD's very own will that this should be as it is spoken and written.

'Trinity' is just a word confessed by the mouth of certain believers who believe in this word that the 'three person' are in reigning power, as 'one' GOD, even today and forever and over most of all, Amen. "The author and the finisher of our faith" according to the written New Covenant, taught to us by the HOLY SPIRIT.

In 1 Corinthians 8:6 “But to us [there is but] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom [are] all things, and we by him.” Trinitarians will use this verse to prove this farce. Also in Matthew 28:19 “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.” Trinitarians will use this verse for their proof although I don’t know if I could sign a card in my my moms and my Dads name then I don’t know why we can’t baptize in the name of three persons.

 

[Bowman]

In 1 Corinthians 8:6 “But to us [there is but] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom [are] all things, and we by him.” Trinitarians will use this verse to prove this farce. Also in Matthew 28:19 “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.” Trinitarians will use this verse for their proof although I don’t know if I could sign a card in my my moms and my Dads name then I don’t know why we can’t baptize in the name of three persons.

No scripture thwarts the Trinity.

 

[tripsin]

No scripture thwarts the Trinity.

True. It is a very difficult subject. Can only be seen by revelation, i.e. "He said to them, But who do you say that I am?" Simon Peter answered and said, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God." Jesus answered and said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven." Matthew 16.

 

[jackmoore]

No scripture thwarts the Trinity.

well what scripture proves it

 

[Anonimous]

can't waste time on this one...

 

[jackmoore]

True. It is a very difficult subject. Can only be seen by revelation, i.e. "He said to them, But who do you say that I am?" Simon Peter answered and said, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God." Jesus answered and said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven." Matthew 16.

now because you cant see this i will have to tell you what this means. this means that Jesus is the son to the Living God and that Jesus' Father is in Heaven so Thus Jesus is the Son of God the Son of Jehovah Jesus is not Jehovah.

 

[jackmoore]

can't waste time on this one...

why not this problem changes how we look at the whole Bible

 

[chubbena]

"Son of God" was what Jesus openly affirmed, and would have been what the Jews suggested by the charge (c.f. John 19.7, Leviticus 24.16); thus, there is no semantic ambiguity. Judging by the audiences’ response (v. 39), after referring to Himself as the “Son of God,” Jesus’ enemies did not challenge the modification as being antithetic from what they were implying (thus, they sought after Him yet again).

Here Christ clarified His relation with the Father ("whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world"), which had to do with His right to the divine title via the divine commission.

The judges were given the title “gods,” because of their special commission (Psalm 82.7-8). These so-called “gods” were to be judged for their wickedness, and their exalted position did not mitigate them from accountability, whereas Jesus is the Judge by way of excellence (c.f. 5.22, 27; 8.16, 26; 9.39).

Sorry for late response but I had to read 1 Corinthians through and through before I could answer your earlier post

Of course, the reason why it is useless to explain these passages is two fold: (a) the posters use of most of these passages would have to assume and confuse Trinitarianism with Modalism (thus, she argues for a distinction of Father and Son as if it is some kind of rebuttal to Trinitarianism); and because (b) we have done so already elsewhere. We are not obliged to respond to the same passages over, and over when our answers lie within a simple use of the search function. But since this seems to be too tedious of a task, allow me to do the homework for you:

John 10.30 ( Does the Holy Bible Teach: Is Jesus Christ God???? )
1 Corinthians 8.6 ( TRINITY IS A FALSE TEACHING. and Unique ways to prove the Deity of Jesus Christ. )

So
1. the passage in John in question does not prove or disprove Yeshua is God, does it?
2. Likewise the whole 1 Corinthians does not support the doctrine of trinity, does it?
So the Christians in around 54 AD when 1 Corinthians was allegedly written would not have any concept of this doctrine and many were saved, correct?
So what is the significance one has to believe in such doctrine now?

 

[john832]

True. It is a very difficult subject. Can only be seen by revelation, i.e. "He said to them, But who do you say that I am?" Simon Peter answered and said, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God." Jesus answered and said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven." Matthew 16.

Odd, but Peter did say He was God, said He was the Son of God. Christ said the Father was greater than He was. How can three-in-one have one greater than another? Just out of curiosity, why is it that EVERY salutation of every Epistle (and Acts and Revelation) in the N.T. addresses only the Father and the Son? The Holy Spirit is conspicuously absent.

 

[Bowman]

well what scripture proves it

Where to start...



1 John 4.13 - 14

By this we know that we abide in Him, and He in us, because of His Spirit He has given to us. And we have beheld and bear witness that the Father has sent the Son as Savior of the world.


A simple example of the Trinity...Father, Son & Spirit.