True Born Again Christians Have Eternal Security

[svedbygrace]

Grace must Reign unto them !

Rom 5:20-21

20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:

21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.

Sin and its consequences can never defeat or be victotious over Grace, thats like saying that adam is victorious over Christ or the devil is victorious over Christ: For deaths reign comes by one adam's sin or act, however Life and Grace comes by Christ's one act.

Now though Grace will constantly be at war with that principle of sin and death in the believers members, those enemies can never expel Grace, hence a Just Man falls seven times scripture says, but each time the Lord will raise him up Prov 24:16

For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief.63

 

[svedbygrace]

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So tell me please has God shown you for you to be dead to self?

This thread is not about me, but what Christ has done. Did you understand the points of post 439 ? Please rehearse them with me.

 

[Smyrna]

1st Corinthians 3
[SUP]10[/SUP] Bythe grace God has given me, I laid a foundation as a wise builder, and someoneelse is building on it. But each one should build with care. [SUP]11[/SUP] For no one can lay any foundation other than theone already laid, which is Jesus Christ. [SUP]12[/SUP]If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood,hay or straw, [SUP]13[/SUP] their work will be shown forwhat it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed withfire, and the fire will test the quality of each person’s work. [SUP]14[/SUP] If what has been built survives, the builder willreceive a reward. [SUP]15[/SUP] If it is burned up, thebuilder will suffer loss but yet will be saved—even though only as one escapingthrough the flames.

 

[homwardbound]

so be careful how that we build off of this amazing grace given righteousness that is not ours, is
God's and we are partakers of this, not imitators, as I once was and am glad fro this, because it eventually showed me, my personal inability to be perfect, and thus I turned to God as how Lord is it possible to enter the kingdom and the answer I got is through my (God speaking) Son (Jesus Christ), the only perfect flesh that ever walked this earth and through his death
Colossians 1:22 in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy, and blameless, and above reproach in His sight—
Hebrews 2:14 Inasmuch then as the children have partaken of flesh and blood, He Himself likewise shared in the same, that through death He might destroy him who had the power of death, that is, the devil,

And if you believe, then you will see that death is destroyed by the death and resurrection of Christ, it is finished for us all, and we are left with either to believe or not believe, that simple

 

[svedbygrace]

so be careful how that we build off of this amazing grace given righteousness that is not ours, is
God's and we are partakers of this, not imitators, as I once was and am glad fro this, because it eventually showed me, my personal inability to be perfect, and thus I turned to God as how Lord is it possible to enter the kingdom and the answer I got is through my (God speaking) Son (Jesus Christ), the only perfect flesh that ever walked this earth and through his death
Colossians 1:22 in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy, and blameless, and above reproach in His sight—
Hebrews 2:14 Inasmuch then as the children have partaken of flesh and blood, He Himself likewise shared in the same, that through death He might destroy him who had the power of death, that is, the devil,

And if you believe, then you will see that death is destroyed by the death and resurrection of Christ, it is finished for us all, and we are left with either to believe or not believe, that simple

Again, you major on what the person does !

 

[homwardbound]

Again, you major on what the person does !

Please keep the lashes coming, I do not have enough stripes, oh wait a minute by Christ's stripes I am healed and so are you if you will believe, have a blessed day.

 

[svedbygrace]

Shall not come into condemnation !


If one could be Truly saved, a Believer in Christ, and then somehow be lost and condemned for sin, Then Jesus lied his tail off here Jn 5:24

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

 

[homwardbound]

Shall not come into condemnation !


If one could be Truly saved, a Believer in Christ, and then somehow be lost and condemned for sin, Then Jesus lied his tail off here Jn 5:24

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

Yes absolutely, for those that do believe, that worship with their new hearts, not with lips
Isaiah 29:13 The Lord says: “These people come near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Their worship of me is based on merely human rules they have been taught.

Belief is deep, and only trusts in God the creator of all, through Chirst who for now is put in charge of all things.

 

[svedbygrace]

They shall never perish !



They shall never perish ! True Believers, those Jesus laid down His Life for Jn 10:11,16,26, shall never perish, they shall continue in the Faith all the days of their Lives, for it is promised that the Just shall live by Faith Rom 1:16-17

16For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

17For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

They shall live by Faith is in the indicative mood, meaning it is a certain fact. It also is in the future tense.

Jn 10:27-28

27My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

28And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

They live out of faith, and if need be they die in faith Heb 11:13

13These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.

If and when Christ returns He will find Faith in the Earth Lk 18:7-8

7And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them?

8I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?

He will find the Faith of His very own Elect Matt 24:31

And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.65

 

[svedbygrace]

The Just shall live by Faith !



People talk about Believers or those Christ died for can turn from the Faith ! That is crazy, and it dishonors the Work of Christ.

There is nothing more sure than a promise from God's word. One of the promises is this Rom 1:17

For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

The promise is that the Just shall Live by Faith. Now who are the Just here ? The Just are all those Christ by His One Obedience made Just or Righteous.

The greek word for Just is diðkaiov and means:

righteous, observing divine laws
in a wide sense, upright, righteous, virtuous, keeping the commands of God

It is translated righteous 41 times in the NT, to include here Rom 5:19

19For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

Or made Just !

This means, everyone Christ died for shall Live by Faith in order to manifest the effects of His One Obedience.

To live by Faith in Rom 1:17 is in the future indicative mood which means:

The indicative mood is a simple statement of fact. If an action really occurs or has occurred or will occur, it will be rendered in the indicative mood.

In other words, its a statement of Fact that all whom Christ died for shall live by Faith ! If one, after converted, shall depart from the Faith, this makes this promise of non effect ! It also means Christ death lost its effectiveness, since it was His Death that causes it in the First Place.66

 

[svedbygrace]

A New Creation !


Many so called christians have taught or believe that a believer in Christ, one who has been born of God, a New Creation, can be lost ! They teach that one can renounce their Faith, and become lost again.

They teach this in spite of clear scripture that one who is saved is a New Creation 2 Cor 5:17

17Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

The words New Creature are important here. The first word New is the greek word kainos and means:


new

a) as respects form

1) recently made, fresh, recent, unused, unworn

b) as respects substance

1) of a new kind, unprecedented, novel, uncommon, unheard of

The word new here is " of a new kind" its a New Kind of Man as Per Eph 4:24

24And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

The New man was Created by God ! The word created here in Eph 4:24 is from the same word in 2 Cor 5:17 for creature !

Its the word ktisis and means:


the act of founding, establishing, building etc

a) the act of creating, creation

b) creation i.e. thing created

1) of individual things, beings, a creature, a creation

a) anything created

b) after a rabbinical usage (by which a man converted from idolatry to Judaism was called)

c) the sum or aggregate of things created

c) institution, ordinance

The Thing Created is the New person, Individual !

God says of them Isa 43:7

Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.

He is speaking of Christians here, those called by His Name ! This did not apply to men in Adam, for men in Adam were never called by His Name.

Now, if the New Creation was made as the Old Creation was, and the New Creation of God can also depart from God as the Old One did in Adam, then God is a Failure ! Then that leaves man without any hope or security. God's Glory is in Jeopardy every moment, because who knows when His New Creation will decide to depart from His Ways !

Folks, this is what false religionists would have us conclude about the Salvation of God, about His New Creation in Christ. May God deal with them for this Blasphemy in the Day of Judgment !67

 

[svedbygrace]

Kept from falling !


God is of the ability to keep His Saints from falling ! Jude 1:24

24Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,

Many false teachers lie and blaspheme against God, and teach that people who are eternally redeemed, may at last depart or fall away from God ! Well this scripture says otherwise, it cannot happen ever. You remember Adam fell away from God and became alienated. The stoney ground hearer falls away in the by and by Lk 8:13

They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.

This scripture should be enough scripture evidence to see that some people can become believers, and yet fall away, however they had no root,meaning they were never in Christ, the root, the vine in the first place, so John says of them later in his epistle 1 Jn 2:19

They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

God will always make them manifest for the cheats they are, and that comes through their falling away from the Truth Lk 8:13 !But this falling away cannot occur to the True believer . God's ability keeps them from falling in order to present them faultless before His Presence with exceeding Joy !

That word falling in the greek is the word aptaistos which means:

not stumbling, standing firm, exempt from falling

You see that ? These are strong words. It even means that one is exempt from falling from the ways of the Lord !

So for those foolish deceivers who say about Jn 10:28-29

28And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

29My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

But they say in foolish response, yes but that does not mean they cannot leave of themselves out of the Hand Of God ! Thats falling away, if that can be done, we may as well strike Jude 1:24 out of the scripture , because it was proved a fraud ! If these here of 1 Tim 4:1

Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

If any of these were True Born Again Believers, then God's word is fraudulent !

In my opinion, those of 1 Tim 4:1 are those Jesus spake of in Lk 8:13, who never had root in Christ in the first place. They were were never of those that is said to be planted by the Father ! Matt 15:23

But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up.

Of course this concludes, that every plant that the Heavenly Father did plant, shall not be rooted up ! If a person leaves the Faith, and they were planted by the Father, then Jesus is a cheat !68

 

[svedbygrace]

Ye shall abide in Him ! A Promise !

1 Jn 2:27

27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

This is a Covenant Promise, those who God saves and gives His Spirit, which is that Anointing referred to, they shall always abide in Him !

The word's " ye shall abide in Him" in the greek is a future indicative, which means this The future:

The future tense corresponds to the English future, and indicates the contemplated or certain occurrence of an event which has not yet occurred.

The indicative :

The indicative mood is a simple statement of fact. If an action really occurs or has occurred or will occur, it will be rendered in the indicative mood.

And the word abide is the greek word menō and means:


to remain, abide

a) in reference to place

1) to sojourn, tarry

2) not to depart

a) to continue to be present

b) to be held, kept, continually

b) in reference to time

1) to continue to be, not to perish, to last, endure

a) of persons, to survive, live

c) in reference to state or condition

1) to remain as one, not to become another or different

2) to wait for, await one

They shall not depart from the Truth, which is a Covenant Promise from here Jer 32:40

And I will make an everlasting covenant with them, that I will not turn away from them, to do them good; but I will put my fear in their hearts, that they shall not depart from me.

This is A Great Sovereign Blessing unto those Christ died and brings them to the Belief of the Truth by the Sanctification of the Spirit 2 Thess 2:13

13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

And they shall abide in that Truth forever !6

 

[svedbygrace]

Perseverance in the Faith promised !


Jn 6:57

57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me. Or they shall live because of Him ! Even throughout Eternity !

So even he that eateth me, he shall live because of me ! More of what Christ means of His Flesh and Blood, His Flesh denotes His Life of obedience to God's Law in behalf of His Sheep, and His Blood denotes the shedding of His Blood to God's Law and Justice on their behalf, and they are to partake of it's blessings and benefits !70

 

[svedbygrace]

Kept by the Power of God !


1 Pet 1:3-5

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,

5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.


The Elect of God, those who have been begotten again unto a lively hope by the Resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

They are Eternally Secure. They are being kept Secure by the Power of God, through faith !

Now what this means is they are being kept through faith, meaning the Power of God is the reason why they are being kept through Faith, meaning the Faith depends upon the Power of God, and not the Power of God dependent on faith ! The Power of God is the active cause of the means of being kept through faith.

Its the same principle as when Paul told the gentiles that they stand by Faith and so boast not or be not high minded Rom 11:20

Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

And to stand by Faith was the result of God's Ability Rom 11:23

And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.

Also Rom 14:4

Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

So standing by Faith Rom 11:23 is the result of God's ability, the same thing as being kept through Faith is by God's Power and or Ability 1 Pet 1:5

Thats why Paul says in Eph 2:8 that Faith is not of ourselves, its a product of God's Power ! Thats why Paul told the Gentiles to be not highminded because of their Faith in Christ, because it was God's doing, His ability causing them to stand by Faith !

Ones Faith is dependent upon the Power of God, and so the Elect are being kept by the Power of God through Faith unto a inheritance Vs 4 for them which is also being kept for them by the same Power of God 1 Pet 1:4

To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved or kept in heaven for you,

So for all you who say a True Believer can be lost from the Faith, you are teaching that God's Power had failed to keep them through Faith ! That is Blasphemy !71

 

[svedbygrace]

Rom 5:1-2 Teaches Eternal Security !



Rom 5:1-2

Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

When one considers the original of this Paul writes after stating Justification by faith, he goes on to write :

"we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand"

The word have, as in we have access [admission , approach] is the greek word echo means hold, possess and it is a perfect ind active, denoting we have permanent access by Faith into this grace ! This only confirms that the Just [made so by Christ's blood] shall permanently live by faith for the entirety of their converted lives, but also Paul follows up with ' into this Grace wherein we stand ! The word stand is the greek word histémi: and means:

I cause to stand, stand

to make to stand, to stand


This word also in the greek is in the perfect tense which corresponds to mean in which we permanently stand in Grace !

Paul is teaching here that the one Justified by faith is permanently in a state of Grace before God, and whose Hope now is the Glory of God !

Those whom God gives Grace, He also gives Glory ! Ps 84:11

For the LORD God is a sun and shield: the LORD will give grace and glory: no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly.74

 

[homwardbound]

Rom 5:1-2 Teaches Eternal Security !



Rom 5:1-2

Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

When one considers the original of this Paul writes after stating Justification by faith, he goes on to write :

"we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand"

The word have, as in we have access [admission , approach] is the greek word echo means hold, possess and it is a perfect ind active, denoting we have permanent access by Faith into this grace ! This only confirms that the Just [made so by Christ's blood] shall permanently live by faith for the entirety of their converted lives, but also Paul follows up with ' into this Grace wherein we stand ! The word stand is the greek word histémi: and means:

I cause to stand, stand

to make to stand, to stand


This word also in the greek is in the perfect tense which corresponds to mean in which we permanently stand in Grace !

Paul is teaching here that the one Justified by faith is permanently in a state of Grace before God, and whose Hope now is the Glory of God !

Those whom God gives Grace, He also gives Glory ! Ps 84:11

For the LORD God is a sun and shield: the LORD will give grace and glory: no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly.74

therefore God will have Mercy on whom God will Mercy
Romans 9:16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
Romans 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
Romans 15:9 and that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy; as it is written, For this cause I will confess to thee among the Gentiles, and sing unto thy name.
Ephesians 2:4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
1 Peter 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
1 Peter 2:10 which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.
2 John 1:3 Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.
Jude 1:21 keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

So God has chosen us all through Son, God has given Mercy to us all, so can we all say thank you and trust God. to do God's works of God's love through us forsaking all of our own self works that we all have been taught from original birth on?

 

[svedbygrace]

Shall not listen to stranger !



We know that the Sheep of Christ who have heard the voice of their Shepherd, and are presently believers and followers, we know that it is impossible for them to apostatize into false teaching again, simply because of Jesus words concerning them here Jn 10:4-5

4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.

And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.

This is a promise that Christ's Sheep will not listen to the voice of a stranger, meaning a false teacher, also Jesus indicates the same, and that now as believers its impossible for them to be deceived Matt 24:24

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect or Sheep

And John writes that they shall abide in the Truth 1 Jn 2:26-27

26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.

27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie,and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

The word shall is a Divine Promise !

In the greek it reads ye shall be remaining in Him !

All true believers will abide or will not depart from the Truth ! They are incapable of being deceived from it, and yes if any do depart from the Truth or the faith ,it only means they were never of Christ's Sheep to begin with 1 Jn 2:19

19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

That word continued is the same greek word rendered abide in 1 Jn 2:27, as in ye shall abide in Him ! So the ones leaving from out from among God's People in Vs 19 only show they did not belong to Christ's Sheep !77

 

[thecreationtutor]

Post title - Solid

There is assurance of salvation - Praise the Lord - He wants you to know, and not wonder! Satan is the one who wants you to be like "I am saved, I am not, I am, I am not - Like a wave tossed to and fro.

There is no assumption of salvation - Praise the Lord - He wants you to know that, and not wonder! Satan is the one who wants you to be like "of course I am saved, I can do whatever I want, i'm saved - like a wave tossed to and fro

 

[svedbygrace]

Eternal Security !



Eternal Security of every True believer is seen here Rom 8:30

30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

Without doubt this ensures they never fall away to perdition !81