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Yet the bible says the beast will SET UP HIS OWN RELIGION. And will DESTROY ALL OTHERS.
I would tend to listen to the word of God. and not some man made conspiracy theory
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Yet the bible says the beast will SET UP HIS OWN RELIGION. And will DESTROY ALL OTHERS.
I would tend to listen to the word of God. and not some man made conspiracy theory
There is very limited detail given in scripture regarding the location of the abyss where there are myriads of fallen angels being kept and reserved for judgment .... and there others kept in bondage in or under the Euphrates River for the same judgment of the day of the Lord [Revelation 9]
The first beast of Revelation is presented as the angelic king of the abyss who will be release from this place [Jude 1:6]
One would have to speculate the location of the abyss, but if under the earth then possibly under water where the opening of the abyss exists .... John is standing on the sand of the sea [edge, beach] when he sees the beast emerge
Since the prophetic visions are all focused upon the Middle East, I would suggest waters adjacent to the region .... the Mediterranean or possibly the Persian Gulf
On the other hand the false prophet appears out of the earth, but with no water covering ... this again would be Middle Eastern lands and most likely in the holy land .... the land of Israel
The false prophet also "looks" like a lamb, but speaks like a dragon .... so his appearance gives the impression of a peaceful essence, but he is actually a fraud and follower of Satan [Daniel 11:38] as will be the little horn and king of the north
Islam is supposedly a religion of "peace", but is in fact one of making war and killing infidels who will not submit to "Allah"
At the same time Satan is actually "killing" the multitudes of Islam by deception since all are following him instead of the Lord and because of this they will be condemned and lost forever [Daniel 8:23-26; John 3:16-18; Revelation 14:9-11]
Islam teaches that God has no Son, and that Jesus did not die for the sins of the world .... this is devil talk
The religious false prophet will be able to perform false miracles [ 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12; Revelation 13:14] in conjunction with the first beast and this will cause the followers of the beast to make an idol image of him that can both speak and can cause the death of those around them that will not submit .... will the followers carry the idol image and in some way be connected for communications? Think about this
And the mark .... the identifying signature of those who will follow the first beast .... his name and the number of a man
The human little horn will bear the same marking of Abaddon/Apollyon
What is this marking?
Is it already being displayed by Middle Eastern Islamic terrorists? .... possible
The first beast of Revelation is presented as the angelic king of the abyss who will be release from this place [Jude 1:6]
One would have to speculate the location of the abyss, but if under the earth then possibly under water where the opening of the abyss exists .... John is standing on the sand of the sea [edge, beach] when he sees the beast emerge
Since the prophetic visions are all focused upon the Middle East, I would suggest waters adjacent to the region .... the Mediterranean or possibly the Persian Gulf
On the other hand the false prophet appears out of the earth, but with no water covering ... this again would be Middle Eastern lands and most likely in the holy land .... the land of Israel
The false prophet also "looks" like a lamb, but speaks like a dragon .... so his appearance gives the impression of a peaceful essence, but he is actually a fraud and follower of Satan [Daniel 11:38] as will be the little horn and king of the north
Islam is supposedly a religion of "peace", but is in fact one of making war and killing infidels who will not submit to "Allah"
At the same time Satan is actually "killing" the multitudes of Islam by deception since all are following him instead of the Lord and because of this they will be condemned and lost forever [Daniel 8:23-26; John 3:16-18; Revelation 14:9-11]
Islam teaches that God has no Son, and that Jesus did not die for the sins of the world .... this is devil talk
The religious false prophet will be able to perform false miracles [ 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12; Revelation 13:14] in conjunction with the first beast and this will cause the followers of the beast to make an idol image of him that can both speak and can cause the death of those around them that will not submit .... will the followers carry the idol image and in some way be connected for communications? Think about this
And the mark .... the identifying signature of those who will follow the first beast .... his name and the number of a man
The human little horn will bear the same marking of Abaddon/Apollyon
What is this marking?
Is it already being displayed by Middle Eastern Islamic terrorists? .... possible
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I'd advise the same, .....but not on conspiracy theories--- old traditions.
BWell.
"I would tend to listen to the word of God. and not some man made conspiracy theory"
And which "conspiracy" theory would you site that you have investigated? ..... there are many presented by the tabloid junksters
And which "conspiracy" theory would you site that you have investigated? ..... there are many presented by the tabloid junksters
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"The Foundation of this prophecy is found in the book f Daniel. First understand that then this one will make sense."
You are correct by what you say .... much of Revelation is a further extension of the visions given to Daniel the prophet
You are correct by what you say .... much of Revelation is a further extension of the visions given to Daniel the prophet
The first beast is a literal person,Satan inhabiting the human body of the man of sin.
The Bible says that the world worships the Dragon,Satan,and they worship the beast,the man of sin.
The Bible says that the man of sin will be mighty but not by his own power for he gets his power from Satan.
In Daniel 7 there is Babylon,Medo-Persia,Greece,and the Roman Empire,which the 10 horns come from the Roman Empire,and the man of sin comes from the 10 horns.
Babylon,Medo-Persia,and Greece,will never rise to power again,but the Roman Empire did not have their dominion taken away but will fall when God puts them down,which they will come together at the last days which will pull all nations together.
The beast has 7 heads,and 10 horns,and the crowns are on the 10 horns,which means Satan in the physical realm deceiving people by the man of sin.
In Revelation chapter 12 the horns are on the 7 heads,which means Satan deceiving the world in the spiritual realm by way of 7 kingdoms starting with Egypt and ending with the 10 horn kingdom,which is the world split in to 10 sections with a leader in each section.
In Revelation 13 the crowns move from the heads to the horns which means Satan deceiving the world in the physical realm by way of the beast,Satan inhabiting the human body of the man of sin.
The man of sin will be in to nature worship,and witchcraft,and will not recognize a personal God but will honor the God of forces,and will convince the world that he has the energy of the universe available to him,and that is why the world says who can make war against him,for the world will believe that he will be able to put down any person that goes against his agenda.
The second beast is a literal person and is like the man of sin's representative,which he will do lying wonders and miracles to convince the world that the first beast did achieve power through nature and shared that power with the second beast.
The first beast is a literal person for the Bible says that the world worships the first beast,who is Satan inhabiting the human body of the man Christ Jesus,which has 7 heads and 10 horns,which the crowns go from the heads to the crowns,which means Satan deceiving the world in the spiritual realm,and then deceiving the world in the physical realm.
The Bible says that the world worships the Dragon,Satan,and they worship the beast,the man of sin.
The Bible says that the man of sin will be mighty but not by his own power for he gets his power from Satan.
In Daniel 7 there is Babylon,Medo-Persia,Greece,and the Roman Empire,which the 10 horns come from the Roman Empire,and the man of sin comes from the 10 horns.
Babylon,Medo-Persia,and Greece,will never rise to power again,but the Roman Empire did not have their dominion taken away but will fall when God puts them down,which they will come together at the last days which will pull all nations together.
The beast has 7 heads,and 10 horns,and the crowns are on the 10 horns,which means Satan in the physical realm deceiving people by the man of sin.
In Revelation chapter 12 the horns are on the 7 heads,which means Satan deceiving the world in the spiritual realm by way of 7 kingdoms starting with Egypt and ending with the 10 horn kingdom,which is the world split in to 10 sections with a leader in each section.
In Revelation 13 the crowns move from the heads to the horns which means Satan deceiving the world in the physical realm by way of the beast,Satan inhabiting the human body of the man of sin.
The man of sin will be in to nature worship,and witchcraft,and will not recognize a personal God but will honor the God of forces,and will convince the world that he has the energy of the universe available to him,and that is why the world says who can make war against him,for the world will believe that he will be able to put down any person that goes against his agenda.
The second beast is a literal person and is like the man of sin's representative,which he will do lying wonders and miracles to convince the world that the first beast did achieve power through nature and shared that power with the second beast.
The first beast is a literal person for the Bible says that the world worships the first beast,who is Satan inhabiting the human body of the man Christ Jesus,which has 7 heads and 10 horns,which the crowns go from the heads to the crowns,which means Satan deceiving the world in the spiritual realm,and then deceiving the world in the physical realm.
The first beast is a literal person for the Bible says that the world worships the first beast,who is Satan inhabiting the human body of the man Christ Jesus,which has 7 heads and 10 horns,which the crowns go from the heads to the crowns,which means Satan deceiving the world in the spiritual realm,and then deceiving the world in the physical realm.
I made a mistake in my post by writing Satan inhabiting the human body of the man Christ Jesus,when I meant the man of sin not the man Christ Jesus.
I made a mistake in my post by writing Satan inhabiting the human body of the man Christ Jesus,when I meant the man of sin not the man Christ Jesus.
Satan is the fellow we have to watch out for. He tempts us to sin, and when we sin, we suffer. He is extremely subtle:
Now the serpent was more subtle than any other wild creature that the LORD God had made. Gen 3:1a
No need to apologize and didn't mean to come across so frank....What is it that you thought I was disagreeing with my friend?
I'm not sure, IDK, maybe the context? I do apologize, I should've assumed it wasn't aimed at me. I've read your blogs, so I sort of have an idea what your thoughts are on the popular ET theories? We may not agree 100% on the game, but you and I are at least hanging out in the same ball park? Thanks- No worries brother.
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[TD]There will be 2 beast,
I believe the second beast is Antichrist.
1. First beast have authority to all nation, being worship, blasphemy etc just like the second beast, but the first beast not like a lamb.
2. The second beast like a lamb. may be Pope, Like a Christ/represent Christ but not,
Apostle John describe, as come from us but not one of us.
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Viewing the Standard King James Version. Switch to the 1611 KJV Revelation Chapter 13 or view a Revelation 13 parallel comparison.
[SUP]1[/SUP] And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
[SUP]2[/SUP] And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
[SUP]3[/SUP] And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
[SUP]4[/SUP] And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
[SUP]5[/SUP] And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
[SUP]6[/SUP] And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
[SUP]7[/SUP] And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
[SUP]8[/SUP] And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
[SUP]9[/SUP] If any man have an ear, let him hear.
[SUP]10[/SUP] He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
[SUP]11[/SUP] And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
[SUP]12[/SUP] And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
[SUP]13[/SUP] And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
[SUP]14[/SUP] And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
[SUP]15[/SUP] And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
[SUP]16[/SUP] And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
[SUP]17[/SUP] And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
[SUP]18[/SUP] Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
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[TD]There will be 2 beast,
I believe the second beast is Antichrist.
1. First beast have authority to all nation, being worship, blasphemy etc just like the second beast, but the first beast not like a lamb.
2. The second beast like a lamb. may be Pope, Like a Christ/represent Christ but not,
Apostle John describe, as come from us but not one of us.
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Viewing the Standard King James Version. Switch to the 1611 KJV Revelation Chapter 13 or view a Revelation 13 parallel comparison.
[SUP]1[/SUP] And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
[SUP]2[/SUP] And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
[SUP]3[/SUP] And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
[SUP]4[/SUP] And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
[SUP]5[/SUP] And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
[SUP]6[/SUP] And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
[SUP]7[/SUP] And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
[SUP]8[/SUP] And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
[SUP]9[/SUP] If any man have an ear, let him hear.
[SUP]10[/SUP] He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
[SUP]11[/SUP] And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
[SUP]12[/SUP] And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
[SUP]13[/SUP] And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
[SUP]14[/SUP] And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
[SUP]15[/SUP] And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
[SUP]16[/SUP] And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
[SUP]17[/SUP] And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
[SUP]18[/SUP] Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
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Revelation 13:2
And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
Look at this picture of the beast in Revelation 13.
In Daniel 7 it gives us a beast with the same characteristics as this one in Revelations, but do we all know what the one difference is between the beast in Daniel from Revelation beast ? What is missing from the Revelation beast ?
And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
Look at this picture of the beast in Revelation 13.
In Daniel 7 it gives us a beast with the same characteristics as this one in Revelations, but do we all know what the one difference is between the beast in Daniel from Revelation beast ? What is missing from the Revelation beast ?
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The beast in Daniel 7 has the wings of an eagle, but in Revelation we see all the same characteristics of the beast but the eagle wings are missing.
The term "beast" used in Daniel 7 defined Middle Eastern kingdoms [heads] and their human king positions [horns]
The first in Daniel's vision was that of the ancient neo-Babylonian Empire [Nebuchadnezzar is the king with the wings plucked] [Daniel 2:31-38; 4:10-37; 7:4] .... there were 2 other kingdoms of the 7 in the scope of prophecy that ruled before neo-Babylon [the land of Magog and his brothers Mesheck and Tubal, and the Assyrian Empire]
The first "beast" of Revelation is a fallen angelic king [principality] that rules over 7 human Middle Eastern kingdoms for Satan [Revelation 9:11; 11:7; 13:1-4; 17:8-18] .... 5 have fallen .... and 2 are future and still pending today
The neo-Babylon lion [head of gold] is the symbol given in Revelation 13:2 of this beast's rule over the ancient neo-Babylonan Empire [Daniel 2:32] .... the leopard [Seleucid Syria/Iraq] [northern thigh of bronze], the bear [Medo/Persian] [silver arms and chest] ... his last 3 before the first century
Abaddon/Apollyon's rule ended with the fall of his 5th kingdom [the Seleucid [Syria/Iraq region] .... once "was" ruling .... and then was "not" [he was sent to the abyss] ..... but he will come out of the abyss and rule the Middle East again over his 6th and 7th [Revelation 17:11] during the coming tribulation period
This beast was not ruling in John's day because he was sent to the abyss where he cannot interact with humanity [Jude 1:6] .... but he will be released by Satan at the beginning of the tribulation period [Revelation 9:11] and return to the Middle East to rule again
It is this beast who will rule over Daniel's 4th future Middle Eastern "animal beast" kingdom via the human little horn with 10 other human kings [Daniel 7:7; 7:19; Revelation 13:1-4] .... Satan is the one [the dragon] that gives this beast his power and authority over his Middle Eastern kingdoms [Satan rules over other human kingdoms on the earth, but his beast Abaddon/Apolloyn rules specificlly over the Middle East in the scope of the prophetic visions
Abaddon/Appolyon will ultimately fully possess the human little horn of Daniel's visions [Daniel 7:7-25; 8:9-25; 9:26-27 [the other prince that shall come]; 11:36-45; 12:7] who will rule over Abaddon/Apolloyn's 6th and 7th kingdoms .... and when the little horn is fully possessed, Abaddon Apollyon will become the 8th king himself ruling over his 7th and final kingdom [Daniel 8:7-8; Revelation 13:5]
The first in Daniel's vision was that of the ancient neo-Babylonian Empire [Nebuchadnezzar is the king with the wings plucked] [Daniel 2:31-38; 4:10-37; 7:4] .... there were 2 other kingdoms of the 7 in the scope of prophecy that ruled before neo-Babylon [the land of Magog and his brothers Mesheck and Tubal, and the Assyrian Empire]
The first "beast" of Revelation is a fallen angelic king [principality] that rules over 7 human Middle Eastern kingdoms for Satan [Revelation 9:11; 11:7; 13:1-4; 17:8-18] .... 5 have fallen .... and 2 are future and still pending today
The neo-Babylon lion [head of gold] is the symbol given in Revelation 13:2 of this beast's rule over the ancient neo-Babylonan Empire [Daniel 2:32] .... the leopard [Seleucid Syria/Iraq] [northern thigh of bronze], the bear [Medo/Persian] [silver arms and chest] ... his last 3 before the first century
Abaddon/Apollyon's rule ended with the fall of his 5th kingdom [the Seleucid [Syria/Iraq region] .... once "was" ruling .... and then was "not" [he was sent to the abyss] ..... but he will come out of the abyss and rule the Middle East again over his 6th and 7th [Revelation 17:11] during the coming tribulation period
This beast was not ruling in John's day because he was sent to the abyss where he cannot interact with humanity [Jude 1:6] .... but he will be released by Satan at the beginning of the tribulation period [Revelation 9:11] and return to the Middle East to rule again
It is this beast who will rule over Daniel's 4th future Middle Eastern "animal beast" kingdom via the human little horn with 10 other human kings [Daniel 7:7; 7:19; Revelation 13:1-4] .... Satan is the one [the dragon] that gives this beast his power and authority over his Middle Eastern kingdoms [Satan rules over other human kingdoms on the earth, but his beast Abaddon/Apolloyn rules specificlly over the Middle East in the scope of the prophetic visions
Abaddon/Appolyon will ultimately fully possess the human little horn of Daniel's visions [Daniel 7:7-25; 8:9-25; 9:26-27 [the other prince that shall come]; 11:36-45; 12:7] who will rule over Abaddon/Apolloyn's 6th and 7th kingdoms .... and when the little horn is fully possessed, Abaddon Apollyon will become the 8th king himself ruling over his 7th and final kingdom [Daniel 8:7-8; Revelation 13:5]
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this seemed wierd, i was serching msn about
Hitler/Mussolini empowered by Pope Pius XII
and i got this choice on first page linked here
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Hitler/Mussolini empowered by Pope Pius XII
and i got this choice on first page linked here
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Vatican has ambition on one world government they state it openly.
- [h=3]Pope calls for world government, 'New World Order ...[/h]www.naturalnews.com/038477_pope_world_government_new_order.html
Dec 27, 2012 - Pope calls for world government, 'New World Order' ... whose purpose it is to serve and promote the "common good of the human family.
15And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth,
are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.