Vaccine is killing more people than covid

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shittim

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at the current rate, knowing as we do the many cases of harm and death from the non-vaccine experimental poison none can say we are not going to exceed the common cold deaths from the supposed "covid" bad cold.
 

ZNP

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This is stunning drop in birth rate in China. For some reason they keep saying it based on the one child policy yet that policy was in effect in 2017, the comparison year. They talk about the high cost of childcare, really, has it changed so much from 2017 to 2021? Then they say it is due to the Covid epidemic. That seems strange, everyone was predicting a spike in births since people were staying home instead of going to work.

What is even more incredible is they admit the government has reversed the one baby policy and yet that is not being successful.

I think every reason they are putting forward are absurd, you could easily argue that either those factors should have no affect on comparison between these two years or that they might even have the opposite affect causing an increase in the birth rate.

Why don't they mention the sharp spike in miscarriages for those who are vaccinated as one possible cause?
 
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Mayo Clinic's recent advice on Covid.

 

ZNP

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I came close to death from whooping cough. The cough was so sever it broke a rib. I was born shortly before a vaccine was available. The death rate from Whooping Cough, a miserable illness even if you survive, plummeted. Cholera, Typhoid, Yellow Fever, Scarlet Fever, Diphtheria, Smallpox, Polio and others were dreaded diseases until vaccines were developed. I was in the military. I had to be able to be deployed anywhere at short notice. I had Cholera, Typhoid and Yellow Fever shots at the same time. I've had TB, Polio, Tetanus and other shots. I'm 70 and in excellent health.

I got everything as a child - Chicken Pox, Measles etc. They were so common that they got lumped together as "ECD" - early childhood diseases. I was sick, but not dangerously as children are generally less affected. Adults who catch the diseases often suffer much more. Women who catch Rubella while pregnant are almost certain to give birth to a disabled child. Vaccination reduces the problems to negligible.

My experience was the norm as I was growing up. Now it is very much the exception. Why? Much of the population of Australia is immunised. I do apologise for letting the facts upset your conspiracy theory. However, some may take you seriously and not get a vaccination that could save their lives.

I don't trust governments especially. I do trust businesses that could be sued for billions if they mess up. Self interest is a great motivator.

Instead of paying attention to the observable facts and operating with common sense you let your anecdotal experience cloud your judgement. Facts are out.
 

ZNP

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I am vaccined with biontec, I work in an hospital. Some of my co- workers are having heavy problems after getting infected with covid 19. Every vaccine, even against Pocken ore any other deseases have side effects. There is no vaccine without. Many who going to make holydays in asia ore africa have no problems to take vaccines against various of deseases to avoid them.
And now the vaccine against covid is a devil thing, because some say so without any proof. Against an desease which is more dangerous then a Influenza. And it Hits young people as well as oder ones.
That through this Pandemie the way for the Antichrist is going to prepare is obvious, because the development of the Digital useing of evetything will make it easyer for him to controle everybody. But I dont believe this will come through the vaccine itself.
Here is the proof. You should be ashamed of always downplaying the evidence of criminality with this vaccine.

 

DeanM

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only the willfully blind refuse to see what the vaccine has done..
And what it doesnt do. Daughter in law got all the shots and wore a mask everywhere she went. Guess who came to visit and gave me covid? A week of Paxlovid took care of it for this oldman who was "at risk". Any drug approved in two weeks testing isnt going in my arm.
 

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Mayo Clinic's recent advice on Covid.

Important to listen to these guys from just three years ago, trying desperately to keep the Covid garbage going and scare people to take their 4 th Covid death shot. Watch a couple minutes of this evil twit.

Jail, or at the very least stripped of every accreditation these wicked “experts” need!
 

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Link to the source ...Vaccine is killing more people than covid

The mRNA experimental vaccine from Pfizer killed “about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed” during a recent five-week vaccination period. Among the younger class, these numbers are compounded to death rates at 260 times what the COVID-19 virus would have claimed in the given time frame.

While the full mathematical analysis may be found in the article itself, the authors demonstrate how among “those vaccinated and above 65, 0.2% … died during the three-week period between doses, hence about 200 among 100,000 vaccinated. This is to be compared to the 4.91 dead among 100,000 dying from COVID-19 without vaccination.”

“This scary picture also extends to those below 65,” the researchers continued. During the five-week vaccination process “0.05%, meaning 50 among 100,000, died. This is to be compared to the 0.19 per 100,000 dying from COVID-19 (who) are not vaccinated … Hence the death rate of this age group increased by 260 (times) during this five-week period of the vaccination process, as compared to their natural COVID-19 death rate.”

As the country reopens after a two-month lockdown, the green pass would be given only to those who had been injected, not to people who tested negative for the virus. The proposed benefits include access to “non-essential” businesses as well as not being required to self-isolate if identified as a close contact of a confirmed case of COVID-19, and not having to self-isolate after a return from what the government calls a “red location.”

Despite there being no proof that these experimental vaccines actually prevent transmission of the virus, Israel’s minister for health, Yuli Edelstein, said upon the release of the vaccine “passport” that “(g)etting vaccinated is a moral duty. It is part of our mutual responsibility.” He went further, declaring, “Whoever does not get vaccinated will be left behind.”

The green pass needs renewing every six months, and despite holding one, an individual must still abide by masking and physical distancing rules. The Jerusalem Post also reported that legislation is being considered to grant employers the right to refuse unvaccinated people entry into the workplace.

Such measures prompted Business Insider to describe the country as “waging a war on the unvaccinated.” Meanwhile, Dr. Anthony Fauci, chief medical adviser to President Joe Biden, has styled Israel’s vaccination response as “extraordinarily good.”
More than eight billion doses of COVID-19 vaccines have been administered globally so far and 44.29% of people are fully vaccinated. Pre-authorization clinical trials were carried out and the safety of vaccines is still continuously monitored through post-commercialization surveillance. However, some people are afraid of vaccine side effects, claiming they could lead to death, and hesitate to get vaccinated. Herein, a literature review of COVID-19-vaccine-related deaths has been carried out according to the PRISMA standards to understand if there is a causal relationship between vaccination and death and to highlight the real extent of such events. There have been 55 cases of death after COVID-19 vaccination reported and a causal relationship has been excluded in 17 cases. In the remaining cases, the causal link between the vaccine and the death was not specified (8) or considered possible (15), probable (1), or very probable/demonstrated (14). (National Library of Medicine)
 

Inquisitor

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Important to listen to these guys from just three years ago, trying desperately to keep the Covid garbage going and scare people to take their 4 th Covid death shot. Watch a couple minutes of this evil twit.

Jail, or at the very least stripped of every accreditation these wicked “experts” need!
You should do some research on vaccines.

The smallpox vaccine is used to prevent smallpox infection caused by the variola virus.[10] It is the first vaccine to have been developed against a contagious disease. In 1796, British physician Edward Jenner demonstrated that an infection with the relatively mild cowpox virus conferred immunity against the deadly smallpox virus. Cowpox served as a natural vaccine until the modern smallpox vaccine emerged in the 20th century. From 1958 to 1977, the World Health Organization (WHO) conducted a global vaccination campaign that eradicated smallpox,[10] making it the only human disease to be eradicated. (wikipedia.smallpox.vaccine.)

One of the deadliest diseases known to humans, smallpox remains the only human disease to have been eradicated. Many believe this achievement to be the most significant milestone in global public health. Key components of the worldwide smallpox eradication effort included universal childhood immunization programmes in some countries, mass vaccination in others, and targeted surveillance-containment strategies during the end-game. Over thousands of years, smallpox killed hundreds of millions of people. The rich, the poor, the young, the old. It was a disease that didn’t discriminate, killing at least 1 in 3 people infected, often more in the most severe forms of disease. The symptoms of smallpox were gruesome: high fever, vomiting and mouth sores, followed by fluid-filled lesions on the whole body. Death would come suddenly, often within 2 weeks, and survivors could be left with permanent harms such as blindness and infertility. in the most severe forms of disease. Mozart was infected, as was Abraham Lincoln. (who.history of smallpox vaccination)
 

ZNP

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More than eight billion doses of COVID-19 vaccines have been administered globally so far and 44.29% of people are fully vaccinated. Pre-authorization clinical trials were carried out and the safety of vaccines is still continuously monitored through post-commercialization surveillance. However, some people are afraid of vaccine side effects, claiming they could lead to death, and hesitate to get vaccinated. Herein, a literature review of COVID-19-vaccine-related deaths has been carried out according to the PRISMA standards to understand if there is a causal relationship between vaccination and death and to highlight the real extent of such events. There have been 55 cases of death after COVID-19 vaccination reported and a causal relationship has been excluded in 17 cases. In the remaining cases, the causal link between the vaccine and the death was not specified (8) or considered possible (15), probable (1), or very probable/demonstrated (14). (National Library of Medicine)
The official number given at the hearing yesterday is that 74% of deaths since the vaccine are related to the vaccine.
 

ZNP

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You should do some research on vaccines.

The smallpox vaccine is used to prevent smallpox infection caused by the variola virus.[10] It is the first vaccine to have been developed against a contagious disease. In 1796, British physician Edward Jenner demonstrated that an infection with the relatively mild cowpox virus conferred immunity against the deadly smallpox virus. Cowpox served as a natural vaccine until the modern smallpox vaccine emerged in the 20th century. From 1958 to 1977, the World Health Organization (WHO) conducted a global vaccination campaign that eradicated smallpox,[10] making it the only human disease to be eradicated. (wikipedia.smallpox.vaccine.)

One of the deadliest diseases known to humans, smallpox remains the only human disease to have been eradicated. Many believe this achievement to be the most significant milestone in global public health. Key components of the worldwide smallpox eradication effort included universal childhood immunization programmes in some countries, mass vaccination in others, and targeted surveillance-containment strategies during the end-game. Over thousands of years, smallpox killed hundreds of millions of people. The rich, the poor, the young, the old. It was a disease that didn’t discriminate, killing at least 1 in 3 people infected, often more in the most severe forms of disease. The symptoms of smallpox were gruesome: high fever, vomiting and mouth sores, followed by fluid-filled lesions on the whole body. Death would come suddenly, often within 2 weeks, and survivors could be left with permanent harms such as blindness and infertility. in the most severe forms of disease. Mozart was infected, as was Abraham Lincoln. (who.history of smallpox vaccination)
You should do some research, they had several versions of the smallpox vaccine before they had one that was safe and effective. It took 50 years of testing before they mandated it.
 

ZNP

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It is easier to lie to people than to make them realize that they have been lied to.
We are not required to make them realize they have been lied to, only to tell them the truth. What they do with that is up to them and they will be held accountable for that.
 

gb9

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We are not required to make them realize they have been lied to, only to tell them the truth. What they do with that is up to them and they will be held accountable for that.
that is a good point.

if one refuses to hear, refuses to do any research, then that is on them..