Vaccine is killing more people than covid

[Inquisitor]

'Blood clots surge like never before…': McCullough's grim warning on Covid vax shakes Senate hearing

You might be on to something here.

COVID-19 mRNA Vaccines: Lessons Learned from the Registrational Trials and Global Vaccination Campaign

Since early 2021, excess deaths, cardiac events, strokes, and other SAEs have often been wrongly ascribed to COVID-19 rather than to the COVID-19 mRNA vaccinations. Misattribution of SAEs to COVID-19 often may be due to the amplification of adverse effects when mRNA injections are followed by SARS-CoV-2 subvariant infection. Injuries from the mRNA products overlap with both PACS and severe acute COVID-19 illness, often obscuring the vaccines’ etiologic contributions. Multiple booster injections appear to cause immune dysfunction, thereby paradoxically contributing to heightened susceptibility to COVID-19 infections with successive doses. For the vast majority of adults under the age of 50, the perceived benefits of the mRNA boosters are profoundly outweighed by their potential disabling and life-threatening harms. Potential harms to older adults appear to be excessive as well. Given the well-documented SAEs and unacceptable harm-to-reward ratio, we urge governments to endorse and enforce a global moratorium on these modified mRNA products until all relevant questions pertaining to causality, residual DNA, and aberrant protein production are answered.

 

[ZNP]

What does that number, 74%, of deaths refer to?

What percentage of deaths are you referring to; the global population that received the vaccine?

We only had 14 deaths from the Covid vaccine in my country.

Since the beginning of the vaccine rollout to 19 February 2023, almost 65 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines
have been given in Australia. The TGA has identified 14 reports where the cause of death was linked to vaccination
from 976 reports received and reviewed.

The Covid vaccine was a major success in my country.

I don't know what your country is, but I remember when I was still looking at the worldometer on deaths from Covid the country that had one of the very lowest number of deaths was also the country with virtually no vaccinations. I think it was Ghana.

 

[Inquisitor]

I don't know what your country is, but I remember when I was still looking at the worldometer on deaths from Covid the country that had one of the very lowest number of deaths was also the country with virtually no vaccinations. I think it was Ghana.

Deaths from the Covid virus.

Peru streaked out ahead early on and they stopped publishing the stats on Peru. I know because I monitored
WorldOMeter every few days during the epidemic.

The US came in second for the most deaths per 100,000 population.

Peru's death per 100,000 was double the US.

(For the twenty countries currently most affected by COVID-19 worldwide, the bars in the chart below show the number of deaths either per 100 confirmed cases (observed case-fatality ratio) or per 100,000 population (this represents a country’s general population, with both confirmed cases and healthy people). Countries at the top of this figure have the most deaths proportionally to their COVID-19 cases or population, not necessarily the most deaths overall. [John Hopkins University])

 

[Inquisitor]

I don't know what your country is, but I remember when I was still looking at the worldometer on deaths from Covid the country that had one of the very lowest number of deaths was also the country with virtually no vaccinations. I think it was Ghana.

Here is one of the reasons why the US did so badly at combatting Covid-19.

Inadequate tracing, isolating and quarantines. The timeworn methods of combatting an infectious disease—testing people who may be sick, tracing their contacts, and isolating or quarantining those who are positive or exposed—worked for COVID as well. The WHO repeatedly stressed the importance of these measures, and countries that followed this advice closely (such as Vietnam, Thailand, New Zealand and South Korea) succeeded in controlling their outbreaks. In addition to its test problems, the U.S. did not do an adequate job of isolating those who were known or suspected to be infected (or had recently travelled to a high-risk area), tracing their contacts or requiring quarantines for those who were exposed. China imposed extremely strict, city-wide quarantines. Other countries required those who may have been exposed to stay at a government-approved hotel or other facility for a quarantine ranging from a few days to a couple of weeks. Such policies would likely have been harder to implement in the U.S., a nation that prides itself on personal freedoms. But not doing so came at the expense of keeping the virus in check. (John Hopkins University)

 

[ZNP]

Here is one of the reasons why the US did so badly at combatting Covid-19.

Inadequate tracing, isolating and quarantines. The timeworn methods of combatting an infectious disease—testing people who may be sick, tracing their contacts, and isolating or quarantining those who are positive or exposed—worked for COVID as well. The WHO repeatedly stressed the importance of these measures, and countries that followed this advice closely (such as Vietnam, Thailand, New Zealand and South Korea) succeeded in controlling their outbreaks. In addition to its test problems, the U.S. did not do an adequate job of isolating those who were known or suspected to be infected (or had recently travelled to a high-risk area), tracing their contacts or requiring quarantines for those who were exposed. China imposed extremely strict, city-wide quarantines. Other countries required those who may have been exposed to stay at a government-approved hotel or other facility for a quarantine ranging from a few days to a couple of weeks. Such policies would likely have been harder to implement in the U.S., a nation that prides itself on personal freedoms. But not doing so came at the expense of keeping the virus in check. (John Hopkins University)

I think that Taiwan was the proper model on how to respond.

As for the problems in the US I think the errors the US made are very clear and are not a result of testing, tracing, isolating, or quarantining.

Florida and South Dakota were accused of being massive failures in those respects and yet those states had the best results. Meanwhile NY and Gov Cuomo was called the "gold standard" by Fauci for his adherence to Fauci's directions and NY had terrible results.

HCQ is effective against all viral infections if used immediately. It has been proven safe and effective for fifty years prior to Covid19. One pill costs $0.10. Cheap, affordable, effective, proven and readily available. However, Fauci and others mocked and ridiculed this as "bleach". Nor did they encourage people to get outside, get in the sun, and take certain vitamins despite the fact that almost all cases that went to intensive care were vitamin deficient in vitamin D. The virus does not last more than 15 minutes outside in the sun. So all the supposed "super spreader" events held outside actually helped innoculate people by exposing them to dead forms of the virus. Ivermectin has also been shown to be very effective for people who went to the hospital with Covid. Again, instead of encouraging people to use this they mocked and ridiculed it as medicine for horses. Finally the treatment that Fauci did recommend was Remdesvir and ventilators. That treatment turned out to be almost 100% fatal.

In conclusion the single biggest reason for people dying from Covid in the US is that they listened to Fauci and the MSM.

 

[Karlon]

i just met a guy who's health is failing because of the covid shot he had. the doctor said it's directly related.

 

[gb9]

I think that Taiwan was the proper model on how to respond.

As for the problems in the US I think the errors the US made are very clear and are not a result of testing, tracing, isolating, or quarantining.

Florida and South Dakota were accused of being massive failures in those respects and yet those states had the best results. Meanwhile NY and Gov Cuomo was called the "gold standard" by Fauci for his adherence to Fauci's directions and NY had terrible results.

HCQ is effective against all viral infections if used immediately. It has been proven safe and effective for fifty years prior to Covid19. One pill costs $0.10. Cheap, affordable, effective, proven and readily available. However, Fauci and others mocked and ridiculed this as "bleach". Nor did they encourage people to get outside, get in the sun, and take certain vitamins despite the fact that almost all cases that went to intensive care were vitamin deficient in vitamin D. The virus does not last more than 15 minutes outside in the sun. So all the supposed "super spreader" events held outside actually helped innoculate people by exposing them to dead forms of the virus. Ivermectin has also been shown to be very effective for people who went to the hospital with Covid. Again, instead of encouraging people to use this they mocked and ridiculed it as medicine for horses. Finally the treatment that Fauci did recommend was Remdesvir and ventilators. That treatment turned out to be almost 100% fatal.

In conclusion the single biggest reason for people dying from Covid in the US is that they listened to Fauci and the MSM.

100% correct.

keep in mind, they could not have got emergency approval for the vax had their been effective , known treatments for covid.

so, they had to dismiss hcq and ivermectin as non-sense..

 

[ZNP]

100% correct.

keep in mind, they could not have got emergency approval for the vax had their been effective , known treatments for covid.

so, they had to dismiss hcq and ivermectin as non-sense..

And that is the key point, it is what we know for certain, the vaccine mandate was illegal.

1. Before you can mandate an experimental vaccine you must have a crisis. They forced the numbers dying from Covid to increase by using Remdesvir, ventilators, putting sick people into nursing homes and categorizing anyone who died with Covid as having died from Covid. The entire basis for the mandate was a lie.

2. You cannot mandate an experimental vaccine if there are effective treatments. Hence they mocked the use of HCQ, Ivermectin, Vitamin D, etc. Once again, making the mandate illegal because there were effective alternatives.

3. If you mandate an experimental vaccine you must provide people with all the research on the vaccine. They did not do that. Therefore the mandate violated the law.

On all three counts it was illegal. It is not my job to prove that the vaccine is not safe and effective, it is the drug companies job to prove that it is. I don't need to know what the problem with the vaccine is, I simply need to know that they are behaving in a way that is criminal.

 

[Inquisitor]

100% correct.

keep in mind, they could not have got emergency approval for the vax had their been effective , known treatments for covid.

so, they had to dismiss hcq and ivermectin as non-sense..

Some other information to add to this thread.

The study found that people with any type of COVID-19 infection were twice as likely to have a major cardiac event,
such as heart attack, stroke or even death, for up to three years after diagnosis.
(my.clevelandclinic.org/podcasts/cardiac-consult/long-term-risk-of-heart-attack-stroke-and-death-doubles)

So the takeaway from this is don't get infected and don't take the Rna vaccine.

 

[wolfwint]

And that is the key point, it is what we know for certain, the vaccine mandate was illegal.

1. Before you can mandate an experimental vaccine you must have a crisis. They forced the numbers dying from Covid to increase by using Remdesvir, ventilators, putting sick people into nursing homes and categorizing anyone who died with Covid as having died from Covid. The entire basis for the mandate was a lie.

2. You cannot mandate an experimental vaccine if there are effective treatments. Hence they mocked the use of HCQ, Ivermectin, Vitamin D, etc. Once again, making the mandate illegal because there were effective alternatives.

3. If you mandate an experimental vaccine you must provide people with all the research on the vaccine. They did not do that. Therefore the mandate violated the law.

On all three counts it was illegal. It is not my job to prove that the vaccine is not safe and effective, it is the drug companies job to prove that it is. I don't need to know what the problem with the vaccine is, I simply need to know that they are behaving in a way that is criminal.

In case of the covid vaccine, I disagree with you! In case of Covid you had the the yoice to take the vaccine or do nothing.

 

[ZNP]

In case of the covid vaccine, I disagree with you! In case of Covid you had the the yoice to take the vaccine or do nothing.

Either you take the vaccine and keep your job or you don't take the vaccine and lose your job, that was the choice I and many others were given.

 

[JohnDB]

https://x.com/AaronSiriSG/status/1932994025210192105

 

[JohnDB]

In case of the covid vaccine, I disagree with you! In case of Covid you had the the yoice to take the vaccine or do nothing.

Where I agree, the guy you are quoting is a conspiracy theory nutjob....

He is not wrong about SOME people not being given an option about taking a vaccine or losing their jobs and careers. Even the ones who worked remotely.
Military personnel and Government employees were also not given a choice and got tossed if they refused.

And this is a problem. It's a human rights violation.
Where a case can be made for medical staff at hospitals and clinics need to take it....hard to make a case for a remote office worker being forced to take an experimental medical treatment. (But it happened too). Private industry also did this without a legal leg to stand on. But allowed because of the warped justice situation currently found in our court system. Especially since it's not regularly a part of an employment contracts and many people were/are working remotely.

Hobby Lobby faced all kinds of grief over its medical insurance program because they purchased one for their employees that did not cover elective abortions. It did provide wellness care that included birth control.
But the Government fined them and drug them into court for a decade over the issue.

So, today there are literally millions who had to change jobs because they refused to get the Covid Vaccine. But....they did and went back to work. We don't hear a lot about it anymore because industrious individuals would rather work than go through the hassle of a wrongful termination lawsuit.
Especially with activist judges on the benches.

All of this happened because OUR Government, colluding with private enterprise, withheld the WHOLE TRUTH and allow us a basic human right referred to as "Informed Consent".

Informed consent is a major major thing in the Healthcare industry. It's a human rights violation. Giving the wrong drugs to a woman who suspects she is pregnant is a way to lose your medical license and expose a facility to endless lawsuits.

We have pharmacist consultation over everything from baby aspirin to antibiotics these days due to "Informed Consent". And by lying both the Government and private industry removed our opportunity at having Informed consent. This is a major Human Rights violation.....

 

[ZNP]

I do not understand the basis to say that the vaccine Mandate was not done illegally. (Wolfwint hit the disagree button to my post saying it was illegal).

The law is very clear and it is international law.

1. The vaccine was an experimental vaccine. Before you can mandate an experimental vaccine you must demonstrate that you are in a full blown crisis and there are no alternative therapies that work. Neither was true. We know that the use of Remdesvir did not help and close to 100% of those in the US who were given Remdesvir and put on a ventilator died. Meanwhile it has been proven that HCQ and Ivermectin were very effective at treating this and that almost 100% of those that went into the ICU had vitamin deficiencies in D and other vitamins. Therefore instead of mandating the vaccine they could have encouraged the use of vitamins, as well as HCQ (you don't need a prescription for that) and Ivermectin if they did go to the hospital. We also know they inflated the numbers of those dying from Covid by labeling anyone who died and tested positive for Covid as having died from Covid rather than with Covid. They had to inflate the numbers in order to even consider a vaccine mandate. The entire basis for mandating the vaccine was a fabrication.

2. If you do mandate an experimental vaccine you are required, by law to provide all the research on the vaccine at the time of the vaccine. They did not do this. Hence it was done illegally.

 

[bniffty]

This is a short vid and something we should all be thinking about , as the outcome of the vaccine does not look good.

Quote - This football analogy from Del Bigtrees interview of Geert Vanden Bossche made me understand the HOW and WHY humanity is in such grave danger from the global mass vaccination campaign. This explains the very basics of how non-specific and specific antibodies are completely different and should be at the very centre of any and all covid vaccine discussions.

https://rumble.com/v44ns69-football...interview-of-geert-vanden-bossche-the-hi.html

 

[PennEd]

This is a short vid and something we should all be thinking about , as the outcome of the vaccine does not look good.

Quote - This football analogy from Del Bigtrees interview of Geert Vanden Bossche made me understand the HOW and WHY humanity is in such grave danger from the global mass vaccination campaign. This explains the very basics of how non-specific and specific antibodies are completely different and should be at the very centre of any and all covid vaccine discussions.

https://rumble.com/v44ns69-football...interview-of-geert-vanden-bossche-the-hi.html

Yes. The analogy is good. But this is 4 years old, and Geert has been dramatically wrong on some of his most dire predictions.

At least in the short term.

The vaccine is slowly destroying the vaxed immune systems. So excess deaths are are still way above statistical averages.

They will likely all die because of the vax, but not as soon as some of these guys predicted.

 

[ZNP]

Yes. The analogy is good. But this is 4 years old, and Geert has been dramatically wrong on some of his most dire predictions.

At least in the short term.

The vaccine is slowly destroying the vaxed immune systems. So excess deaths are are still way above statistical averages.

They will likely all die because of the vax, but not as soon as some of these guys predicted.

I think there is more to the vax than simply making some people sick and killing them. Yes, I think it is weakening the immune system, but we do that when we give people a transplant. I suspect the immune system must be weakened for people to receive the mark of the beast. I think it has to be more than simply an RFID chip as it makes a fundamental change to a person so that they can no longer receive Jesus Christ as savior.

 

[JohnDB]

Yes. The analogy is good. But this is 4 years old, and Geert has been dramatically wrong on some of his most dire predictions.

At least in the short term.

The vaccine is slowly destroying the vaxed immune systems. So excess deaths are are still way above statistical averages.

They will likely all die because of the vax, but not as soon as some of these guys predicted.

Well,
Truth be told....we DONT KNOW FOR CERTAIN. Because nobody has done the proper science about any of it. The goal oriented science of "does it work as intended or not" is not proper science. The unintended side effects are a whole nuther study not performed....much less repeated and verified.

It was only in 1993 that health and drug studies needed to include women at statistically relevant numbers. There are currently huge gaps in women's health knowledge at the moment.

The ONLY studies we have currently are small group....the type done to see if a large study is needed. Which with cherry picking participants the outcomes are an already foregone conclusion...which is why so many are not funded for larger studies. And correlation is not causation. Pathologies need to be Sussed out.

Vaccine injuries themselves need to be completely defined and pathologies determined why and how they happen and at what rates. Vaccines do work....but for some they cause worse problems. Is it genetic or food based illness or is it a combination of infection and cytokine storm causing the problems.

But in truth....WE DO NOT KNOW.
And up to now no one with the purse strings has been interested in finding out.....removing "Informed Consent" which is mandated by law due to not having it being a human rights violation.

 

[DeanM]

They didnt research anything. It was developed in what? 2 or 4 weeks? The long term effects are unknown. Marxist funded "research". Same people who fund reasearch grants given to "scientists" for global cooling, global warming and climate change. Scare the sheeple into compliance.

 

[JohnDB]

They didnt research anything. It was developed in what? 2 or 4 weeks? The long term effects are unknown. Marxist funded "research". Same people who fund reasearch grants given to "scientists" for global cooling, global warming and climate change. Scare the sheeple into compliance.

This is not true either....despite the conspiracy theorists claims and "evidence".

mRNA technology has been commercialized for15 years now. The specific technology was commercialized by Moderna originally. Part of the research was funded by the NIH and carried out by Moderna. Meaning a lot of it is under free use and published by Pub-Med.

MRNA tech has been an instrumental therapy used for viral cancers for this long. The primary scientist pioneering Covid research (as a result of Bird Flu) for the past 25 years (@Vanderbilt University virus center for research) suggested mRNA vaccines/therapy for this virus after it was published in Pub-Med decades ago....and was wanting to do research on this but was NOT awarded the grants to do the research. In fact a LOT of the routine research of Covid viruses that he pioneered was taken from him and routed to other researchers (Chinese nationals Scientists working at a Texas University) who used the Wuhan lab to perform it under less than best practices and that's how we ended up with the pandemic we had.

Becoming clearer now how this all came about?

mRNA technology still something of a Fail/Success of whether it works or not. There have been mRNA treatments studied that have glowing success in the first three stages with all green lights that when human trials begin killed all study participants. And they all die within 2 weeks of first injections. No known cause or reasons.

However, the side effects of standard vaccine methods with the Covid class of viruses are substantial and known with only a 60% success rate....the other 40 usually show symptoms of guillian Barre syndrome (J&J and AstraZenneca/Oxford vaccines)

All this was known going into mass vaccinations. But with a 25% rate of permanent disability or death from Covid-19 infections plus a very high R-naught infection factor they rolled the dice with the mRNA technology. It was about survivability of the human species at the point when it was realized to be a global pandemic. Because of the use of birth control pills and other devices that tend to have permanent sterility as a side effect and then the same thing for both sexes of contracting Covid-19 (an endocrine virus....not just a respiratory virus) SOMETHING was decided to NEED to be done. So they put it out there and made it widely available for the public.

Pfizer mRNA vaccines are crap. Too unstable to be safe....then Pfizer had issues with contaminants in their source of Lipids used. (Not refined well enough)

On top of all this we had our Government mandating vaccinations of an experimental vaccine PLUS lying to the populace about various aspects including KNOWN side effects. (Allowing Pfizer and Moderna to hide known side effects data)

And we have the chit chow we currently have on our hands