Verses Not Found In The Scripture

[eternally-gratefull]

"The son of man is come to save that which was lost." Its in my KJV Bible.

I didn't know this was left out of some other bible versions until I googled it just now and found the following statement:

Textual criticism has determined that verse 11 should not exist in Matthew 18 since it does not appear in the oldest and best manuscripts. https://googleweblight.com/i?u=http...y-is-verse-11-missing-in-matthew-18/&hl=en-JM

There are also books mentioned in the Bible that are not apart of the books in the KJV for eg Book of Jashar mentioned in 2samuel 1:18.

Well I leave this one for you Bible scholars to get to the bottom of.

Best to leave the KJV only discussion out of your thread, it’s out of context.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

1 Corinthians 10:13 There hath no temptation [Greek peirasmos] taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted [Greek peirazó] above that ye are able; but will with the temptation [Greek peirasmos] also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

In 1 Cor 10:13, the word "temptation" (used twice) is translated from the Greek word peirasmos.

peirasmós (from 3985 /peirázō) – temptation or test – both senses can apply simultaneously (depending on the context). The positive sense ("test") and negative sense ("temptation") are functions of the context (not merely the words themselves).​

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The word "tempted" is translated from the Greek word peirazó.

peirázō (from 3984 /peíra, "test, trial") – "originally to test, to try which was its usual meaning in the ancient Greek and in the LXX" (WP, 1, 30). "The word means either test or tempt" (WP, 1, 348). Context alone determines which sense is intended, or if both apply simultaneously.​

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3985 (peirazō) means "tempt" ("negative sense") in: Mt 16:1, 19:3, 22:18,35; Mk 8:11, 10:2, 12:15; Lk 11:16, 20:33; Jn 8:6; Js 1:13,14.​

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3985 (peirazō) however is used of positive tests in: Mt 4:11; Lk 22:28; 1 Cor 10:13; Js 1:12.​

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HELPS Word-studies​

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Not all things are tests

what Paul went through was not a test, it was on the job training.
God was teaching them how they had to rely on them, and how weak they were

You test people to see what they know or if they will follow what they already learned

before you get to the testing phase, we have to go through teaching

 

[Guojing]

The mysterious Acts 8:37 will be one of the ones I am aware of, only the KJV and some other versions have that.

 

[Kim82]

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Interestingly enough, this verse has been quoted to me by believers who were going through serious illness.

However, I usually do not quote this verse to people who are going through "an incurable illness which leads to death". I do know, though, that God is with us through thick and thin and He sustains us in our most trying times ... and sometimes our most trying times do not involve temptation to sin.

We need God every moment of our lives ... whether we are facing temptation to sin ... or a season of trial ... or times of joy and peace ...

But when we are going through trials, as we look to God, He brings that peace which passes all understanding to guard our hearts and minds so that we are able to remain steadfast and unmovable in faith.

Can I ask you a simple question?

In 2Corinthians 1:8 when Paul says, "pressed out of measure, above strength," is he here saying that God did not give us more than we can handle?

If so, then why did he say that such things happened, "that we should not trust in ourselves but in God..." 1:9

If the only things that come our way are what we can bear, will we trust God, or will we trust in ourselves?

 

[Kim82]

I think that 1 Corinthians 10:13 is saying to the believer that we should be perfect, and that we have no excuse for any wrong doing. Because not only is the temptation something we can bear, but God also provides a way of escape, as such we should be perfect in our ways.

But thank God for His grace, and mercy because despite the fact that God provides the escape, and we are not tempted beyond our abilities, we still manage to do wrong things anyhow.

 

[Moses_Young]

Interestingly enough, this verse has been quoted to me by believers who were going through serious illness.

I think both points are good. God won't test us beyond what we can endure, provided that we rely on Him for the strength to endure. In our own strength, it may very well be more than we can endure.

 

[Moses_Young]

God works in mysterious ways.

I can understand this one, and I believe it has some biblical support.

Isaiah 55:8-9 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

Cleanliness is next to godliness.

I can understand this saying, reading Leviticus. From childbirth, to disease, to washing and even to house cleanliness, Leviticus has it covered.

Circumcision for males - Leviticus 12:3 And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised.
Dealing with disease - Leviticus 13:46 All the days wherein the plague shall be in him he shall be defiled; he is unclean: he shall dwell alone; without the camp shall his habitation be.
Mould/disease in the house - Leviticus 14:48 And if the priest shall come in, and look upon it, and, behold, the plague hath not spread in the house, after the house was plaistered: then the priest shall pronounce the house clean, because the plague is healed.
Dealing with personal uncleanness - Leviticus 15:11 And whomsoever he toucheth that hath the issue, and hath not rinsed his hands in water, he shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even.

 

[Lightskin]

The Christian who has an incurable illness which leads to death. Will we also quote 1Corinthians 1O:13 to them?

You lack faith.

 

[Moses_Young]

You lack faith.

That's a little unkind, isn't it? Can't you be more gentle? :-(

 

[Lightskin]

That's a little unkind, isn't it? Can't you be more gentle? :-(

Your point is well taken, but in truth I was not being hostile in spirit when saying those words.

I considered originally writing “I encourage you to lean more strongly on the power of faith” but obviously I didn’t go that route.

 

[Moses_Young]

Your point is well taken, but in truth I was not being hostile in spirit when saying those words.

I considered originally writing “I encourage you to lean more strongly on the power of faith” but obviously I didn’t go that route.

Thanks! That reassures me. Sometimes, it is hard to tell simply by reading text. And God bless you!

 

[Lightskin]

Thanks! That reassures me. Sometimes, it is hard to tell simply by reading text. And God bless you!

I see time and again that you share great wisdom and am grateful to you for doing so. Trust your instincts; usually they’re correct. And may God always bless you and yours, beloved.

 

[pottersclay]

Kim....you are so right on. This is new age thinking which brings you further away from the truth.
Social media eats this right up, self help promotes this and the weak and blind embrace it.....so sad.
Thanks for your post

 

[Grandpa]

You lack faith.

She points out the scripture that says people can't handle things themselves but HAVE to RELY on GOD.

How is that a lack of faith?

 

[Kolistus]

you can not fellow your hearts JEREMIAH 17:9 THE HEART is deceitful above all things , and desperately wicked; who can know it. We can not fellow what we fill or think ,or our hearts ,We haft to fellow the word of GOD .If we try to fellow what we think , Satan will have us all mist up , and overcome , We haft to over come Satan by standing on the WORD of GOD .
GOD bless as HE sees fit .

This verse always comes to my mind whenever the follow your heart advice is given. Good one bud

 

[Dave-L]

People have "Free Will". James says they can't control their tongues, nobody can.

 

[Sackcloth-N-Ashes]

Cleanliness is next to godliness.

I have worked in the public for almost 30 years. If that saying is true, I’ve been around 10’s of 1,000’s of the most ungodly ppl imaginable.

 

[preacher4truth]

"We are all God's children."

 

[Lightskin]

She points out the scripture that says people can't handle things themselves but HAVE to RELY on GOD.

How is that a lack of faith?

She questions whether we should provide scripture regarding the perseverance of faith to terminally ill people. The question in and of itself is one lacking of faith.

 

[Grandpa]

She questions whether we should provide scripture regarding the perseverance of faith to terminally ill people. The question in and of itself is one lacking of faith.

Oh.

I guess I didn't read it that way.

I read it as saying there might not be a way out of a terminal illness but there IS a way out of temptation.

And that is Trust in God.

This same Trust in God that results in the way out of temptation doesn't necessarily result in an escape from lifes trials and tribulations.


I probably don't have to tell you that. Your experience in your ministry has probably shown you this many times.