VP Pence announced just hours ago he's running for president

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I do and have prayed for Donald Trump to have a saving relationship with God that he would repent and be saved. We would see a totally different person then as Trump would want to become more like Jesus and the lying, cheating, arrogant, proud boasting person would be transformed and you would know he had allowed the Holy Spirit in his life because you know a person by their fruits.

I would love for him to become a brother in Christ.
 
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Dude653 said:
He was pretty funny on Saturday night live. He's also been on WWE at least a couple times
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He was a great entertainer on The Apprentice. America doesn't need an entertainer it needs a leader that we can be proud of.
 
Papermonkey said:
You can't rightly judge Donald's relationship with Christ.

Policies that helped this country and our economy while President Trump was in office refute the snake oil claim.
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By their fruits you will know them. Donald is in a whole lot of trouble with a lot of people, states, still telling lies, law suits, that he has made and that are made against him. I would not want his life no matter the money he has or the lack thereof. That's why I pray for him as he needs it.
 
JesusLives said:
Yes I do as I posted the writer and the date. The point is the same though I even searched to see if Donald changed his mind and repented and there was nothing to find.

If one doesn't repent and ask God for forgiveness then how can they be saved?
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ou "assume" he hasn't? It is God who judges, and He judges the heart for He alone knows the heart:):unsure::coffee:.
 
I m not defending Trump!!!!

I don't like asking for forgiveness either, although I find the necessity more and more common as I grown in YHWH's word. Somehow, I thing He would prefer it too.
 
We all have "opinions" and none of them matter. They are important only because He cares for us and desires we prosper in all areas, but they don't matter as His plan is going forward should we join Him in it or stay stuck by focusing on ourselves and the temporal.:):unsure:(y):coffee:
best wishes
 
JesusLives said:
By their fruits you will know them. Donald is in a whole lot of trouble with a lot of people, states, still telling lies, law suits, that he has made and that are made against him. I would not want his life no matter the money he has or the lack thereof. That's why I pray for him as he needs it.
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Thank you for explaining.
 
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RichMan said:
I hope Pence is not the nominee. But if he is will you vote for him?
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If Mike Pence had any self-awareness, he would remove himself from the public arena completely. He should not get a single vote. The same with Kevin McCarthy and many others who have betrayed their country and their constituents. It is good to see that McCarthy will finally get put in place.
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
If Mike Pence had any self-awareness, he would remove himself from the public arena completely. He should not get a single vote. The same with Kevin McCarthy and many others who have betrayed their country and their constituents. It is good to see that McCarthy will finally get put in place.
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people who have a " r " next to their name are NOT automatically your friend or own your side because of the " r".

look at what they do....
 
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shittim said:
ou "assume" he hasn't? It is God who judges, and He judges the heart for He alone knows the heart:):unsure::coffee:.
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I think it is crossing the line when anyone presumes to judge Donald Trump's relationship with God because they dislike Donald Trump.

Also, his detractors are jumping on the anti-Trump bandwagon merely because it causes controversy, or it's the thing to do.

In any event, that makes the follower crowd appear quite silly in my view.

It's easy to hate, which is contrary to what it means to be in Christ. It takes work to know what you're talking about.

His haters don't put in the work.

2018 ,
Trump’s list: 289 accomplishments in just 20 months, ‘relentless’ promise-keeping

The Trump administration’s often overlooked list of achievements has surpassed those of former President Ronald Reagan at this time and more than doubled since the last tally of accomplishments after his first year in office, giving President Trump a solid platform to run for re-election on. The Trump administration’s often overlooked list of achievements has surpassed those of former President Ronald Reagan at this time and more than doubled since the last tally of accomplishments after his first year in office, giving President Trump a solid platform to run for re-election on.
 
Papermonkey said:
I think it is crossing the line when anyone presumes to judge Donald Trump's relationship with God because they dislike Donald Trump.

Also, his detractors are jumping on the anti-Trump bandwagon merely because it causes controversy, or it's the thing to do.

In any event, that makes the follower crowd appear quite silly in my view.

It's easy to hate, which is contrary to what it means to be in Christ. It takes work to know what you're talking about.

His haters don't put in the work.

2018 ,
Trump’s list: 289 accomplishments in just 20 months, ‘relentless’ promise-keeping

The Trump administration’s often overlooked list of achievements has surpassed those of former President Ronald Reagan at this time and more than doubled since the last tally of accomplishments after his first year in office, giving President Trump a solid platform to run for re-election on. The Trump administration’s often overlooked list of achievements has surpassed those of former President Ronald Reagan at this time and more than doubled since the last tally of accomplishments after his first year in office, giving President Trump a solid platform to run for re-election on.
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Yes and Mike Pence kept his promise to do the "same old, same old". Granted I have paraphrased his slogan of "We're gonna make America great again, again".
 
JesusLives said:
I don't claim to be God but I have eyes and ears and I can see and hear that his fruits have not changed from the Donald Trump that he has always been.
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Fruit aren't actions. They are the work of the Spirit in a person. Examples: love, peace, joy, etc.
I'm not commenting on the veracity of your statements. Only explaining what biblical fruit is.
 
Cameron143 said:
Fruit aren't actions. They are the work of the Spirit in a person. Examples: love, peace, joy, etc.
I'm not commenting on the veracity of your statements. Only explaining what biblical fruit is.
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Matthew 7:16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.
 
JesusLives said:
Matthew 7:16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.
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You most certainly bear good fruit that's for sure.
 
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