It is hard to reason with someone who can not think clearly as to be able to soundly reason..
Was Mary Sinless?
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Again, we do not say that at all. That is your presumption. You do know presumption is a sin don't you?
I can never understand why people think the Holy Spirit would generate a spirit in us that is somehow dead in its' function. Afterall, it is the Spirit who gives birth to spirit. Is he toying with us? Could have generated a perfectly alive functioning spirit within us the first time round but somehow can only manage this "limp wristed waste of space"?
John 3:6
That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
He is not toying....I can never understand why people think the Holy Spirit would generate a spirit in us that is somehow dead in its' function. Afterall, it is the Spirit who gives birth to spirit. Is he toying with us? Could have generated a perfectly alive functioning spirit within us the first time round but somehow can only manage this "limp wristed waste of space"?
John 3:6
That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
His flesh is naturally an antagonist.
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No, read in context; it’s a metaphor (Meow-taphor).
Being a cat?
That would mean you are spiritual dead nine times.
So that explains why you are being slow to get it.
Nope, these are all God the Father speaking through his mediums. Neither Moses nor Abraham see God face to face, they met him through a MEDIUM, it's like communicating through phone, Zoom or a courier. Jesus on the other hand was not revealed until his incarnation, He existed in visions and prophecies.
Again, it is impossible for God to lie.
God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? (Num. 23:19)
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You have not proven that to be so....
"Let the dead bury their own dead," was a mystery to be solved by those having enough understanding of sound doctrine.
And then you guys turn around and claim obedience is works based salvation claiming if one walks in sin that does not cause them to lose their salvation which you all do because you folks are so sin friendly.
Which is a non issue for the OSAS crowd since they say it's impossible for one to lose their salvation.
Your severe case of anti-OSAS derangement syndrome is nutty.
Presumption, false accuser of the brethren, slander. Sin indeed.
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Why should they care, since they think they’re saved, while continuing to sin. (?)It certainly leads to a whole bunch of other sins!
False doctrine!
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No, we claim that when you place your obedience as the defining factor in your salvation from death and that your resurrection is conditional upon your obedience, then you have made God's grace null and void and the Cross an element of scorn.
With a comment like that, I do have to wonder if you understand the salvation package at all.
I see no profit in taking this conversation further while you continue to misunderstand and misrepresent what OSAS people say while at the same time thinking that somehow you are a more faithful Christian.
Have a nice Day.