Was Mary Sinless?

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What are you even arguing for? What are you trying to say? Now you're just lecturing, if not ranting, condescendingly. My only point is that OT theophanies are all God the Father speaking through mediums, except prophecies and visions of the messiah such as Isaiah 9:6. I don't see how this is offensive or vexing to you.
And your point is wrong. I have scripturally shown you that the LORD (the WORD), not a medium, came to Abrams tent door and that God(the WORD) met Moses face to face, not a medium. It couldn't have been the Father, for He said " Thou canst not see My face: for there SHALL NO MAN SEE ME, AND LIVE." Exodus 33:20. Yet Abram and Moses continued living.
 
Well then are you suggesting that since death comes to ALL people because all have sinned that Jesus is part of "ALL PEOPLE"?

Jesus is the Son of God.
Born that way.

He was born as Adam had been created.
Sinless.

He is the second Adam...
Not the same old Adam.

His humanity became the perfect target for redemption, when all our sins pierced His humanity, because it is our humanity that produces them.
Then, after, that body died? It was glorified and transformed, and is no more as that body once was.

That is why we are told...

So from now on we regard no one according to the flesh.
Although we once regarded Christ in this way, we do so no longer.
2 Corinthians 5:16​

His temporary human body of this earth served the purpose of being our sacrificial lamb without spot or blemish.
After His death?
His body is no longer of this earth!
His body became of our home. Heaven!

But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a Savior from there,
the Lord Jesus Christ, who, by the power that enables him to bring everything
under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his
glorious body. Philippians 3:20-21​


Adam's body and citizenship was from this dying earth.
But our body and citizenship? Shall be Heaven!

We are no longer a part of "all people."
Any more than He was "all people."

Jesus, as God, snuck in among us, and hid his real person from human detection.
Hidden by entering a real human body.
Like a *perfect* decoy duck attracts ducks.

Then.... caused us who believed to be attached to His real self, and flew us away to our new home in heaven.
He got us the heck out of here, away from "all people!"

Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come:
The old has gone, the new is here! 2 Corinthians 5:17

We are no longer to be a part of "all people."
We are a new creation, unlike anything that ever existed before!

Jesus was the Father's 'special forces' who snuck into enemy territory and smuggled out the captives!
Therefore He says:
“When He ascended on high,
He led captivity captive,
And gave gifts to men.” Ephesians 4:8​

As far as God is concerned?
We are already now in Heaven with Him!

Even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ
(by grace you have been saved), and raised us up together, and made us sit
together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, that in the ages to come He
might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us in
Christ Jesus. Ephesians 2:5-7​
We all need to mature in Christ to get over the shock of having been rescued!

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Why should anyone have a human spirit (to know the things of God with) if he is not yet regenerated?

The unregenerate soul can not know the things of God!
But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God,
for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they
are spiritually discerned. " 1 Corinthians 2:14​

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It's the spirit that gets regenerated, not the soul. All human spirits are NOT regenerated until receiving Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. You're in the mustard trying to ketchup.
 
I don’t even understand half the stuff they’re babbling about, because it’s NOT Scriptural. It makes no sense!

Yeah, one must submit to spirit guides from the dark side to understand carnal man made religion


So you're not going to stop putting words in other peoples mouths and be corrected when it is pointed out?

I don't submit to false doctrine so you'll have to find someone who is gullible to accept your "correction"


You don't understand what we say but you know we are wrong?

What you say is not biblical so those being led by the Spirit of Truth (the True Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ) can be blinded by the darkness that you people espouse
 
Elisha had the gift of being a prophet. We are not.

Also, very little Scripture existed in his day compared to all what we have been given for the Church.


Now these things, brothers, I have applied to myself and Apollos for your sakes,
so that in us you may learn not to go beyond what is written, so that no one of you
will become puffed up on behalf of one against the other. 1 Corinthians 4:6​

That is how church splits and schisms start.
Now it's you, and not the Holy Spirit, who determines who and when one gets His gifts. " And He gave some, apostles; and some prophets; and some, evangelists; and some pastors and teachers. FOR THE PERFECTING OF THE SAINTS, for the WORK OF THE MINISTRY, for the EDIFYING OF THE BODY OF CHRIST: TILL WE ALL COME IN THE UNITY OF THE FAITH, AND OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD, UNTO A PERFECT MAN, UNTO THE MEASURE OF THE STATURE OF THE FULNESS OF CHRIST:" Eph 4:11-13. Have those things been accomplished yet? No? So the five fold gifts to the church are still necessary.
 
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I did look up parthenogenesis but found no evidence for it in humans.

As far as Melchizedek Heb.7:3, the reference may or may not be literal but simply a reference to not having his genealogy recorded. Genealogies were important to the ancient Jews.

Adam and Eve had no parents (literally) but that is not evidence for human beings springing forth from the "primordial soup" as some like to suggest.
I would guess you looked at wiki or maybe AI. I looked at PubMed and found the following. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10227352/
It is an article and the heading begins with:

A new hypothesis may explain human parthenogenesis and ovarian teratoma: A review study​

but all these doctors and scientists don't know what they are talking about, they just study the odd events, not what is commonly accepted as real, right?

And regarding Melchizedek, did you just look at Hebrews or did you also look at the Genesis reference,
 
Speaks to my soul, my spirit translates. We are souls, to speak to my soul is to speak to me.

Luke 1:46
And Mary said: “My soul magnifies the Lord,
You've got it backwards, my spirit receives the things of God, who is Spirit. It's not those who are lead by the soul, which is carnal, but" those who are led by the Spirit, they are the sons of God." Rom. 8;14
 
Why don't you have your own answer?
I do have my own answer, but YOU are the one who claims not to avoid answering. Your response certainly looks like a response that implies that you do not want to answer, maybe because you are not certain how to while retaining your nonbiblical beliefs. Either the statement is true, but Jesus was not a human, or it is false, Paul's words not God's, and Jesus was human.
 
It's the spirit that gets regenerated, not the soul. All human spirits are NOT regenerated until receiving Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. You're in the mustard trying to ketchup.

How does a spirit get regenerated?
 
Elisha had the gift of being a prophet. We are not.

Also, very little Scripture existed in his day compared to all what we have been given for the Church.


Now these things, brothers, I have applied to myself and Apollos for your sakes,
so that in us you may learn not to go beyond what is written, so that no one of you
will become puffed up on behalf of one against the other. 1 Corinthians 4:6​

That is how church splits and schisms start.
According to Paul, the gift of prophesy still exists, as does the office. As for how much scripture existed in Elisha's day compared to ours, we simply do not actually know. The OT references many works that we no longer have, and the Bible itself does not tell us what works are actually scripture. That declaration has always come from human sources and the only support for them being accurate is human tradition. Those making the declaration claimed they were guided by the Holy Spirit, but claims are not always true, especially when there is no way to verify it. Remember, there are at least four different collections that get called "the Holy Bible".
 
I do have my own answer, but YOU are the one who claims not to avoid answering. Your response certainly looks like a response that implies that you do not want to answer, maybe because you are not certain how to while retaining your nonbiblical beliefs. Either the statement is true, but Jesus was not a human, or it is false, Paul's words not God's, and Jesus was human.

Why should I defend myself against something I did not say?

This is what it says about Jesus being human.

Philippians 2:6-8


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Who, being in very nature God,​
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;​
7​
rather, he made himself nothing​
by taking the very nature of a servant,​
being made in human likeness.​
8​
And being found in appearance as a man,​
he humbled himself​
by becoming obedient to death—​
even death on a cross!​


The key in breaking that mystery is understanding the two natures of Christ.
And, having those two natures even before the Incarnation.

He was not man in that He was also God.
In being a man?
He made Himself to become as a man....

I can show you how.
 
According to Paul, the gift of prophesy still exists, as does the office

Yes, Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge - 1 Corinthians 14:29

Problem is those tat are supposed to be judging don't know God's Word so they go along with most anything anybody prophesies these days. All they have to do is "claim" the Lord told them to say whatever they are saying

This is how and why so much false doctrine is floating around is people don't know God's Word and aren't being led by the Holy Spirit Who always leads people to God's Word.
 
By receiving Christ as our Lord and Savior and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, before that we were spiritually dead in trespasses and sins.
That does not tell us how our human spirit gets regenerated.

That tells us how our spiritually dead soul and body that we had before salvation became regenerated.
And, that is only a part of the answer of what takes place.

Peter already knew that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, before Pentecost.
He had?
A human spirit.
Because?
He believed in the Lord God of Israel.
 
That's all you OSAS people ever come up with

Well, offer something other than a dumb answer, and maybe they will say something new!

God wants you to snap out of your carnal way of seeing things.

And this is my prayer: that your love may abound more
and more in knowledge and depth of insight. Philippians 1:9
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Well, offer something other than a dumb answer, and maybe they will say something new!

No they won't

They'll still only believe bits and peices of God's Word continuing to reject the Whole Counsel of God.

That's how the cherry pickers do business as you are aware.