is there any scriptural evidence he went to Hell?He, Jesus, isn't still there, because He came back from the dead.
Just wondering, have you read all of the Bible or only bits and pieces ?
I've read all of it.
is there any scriptural evidence he went to Hell?He, Jesus, isn't still there, because He came back from the dead.
Just wondering, have you read all of the Bible or only bits and pieces ?
@VickyK, Jesus' conscious experience was exclusive. No one experiences reality like He does. There are many reasons for that. Examples are; His body enjoyed the immortal life of His soul. His flesh was not in rebellion to His will. Since our bodies die our flesh obeys the laws that bodies that die need to obey rather than serving our will. His body obeyed His will. If someone isn't going to die their experience of reality is radically different than someone who is going to die. Only He could choose to die for instance. We don't have that choice. That makes His suffering a sacrifice. There is little foundation to compare our experience of suffering with His.
Not an answer to my question.@VickyK, Jesus' conscious experience was exclusive. No one experiences reality like He does. There are many reasons for that. Examples are; His body enjoyed the immortal life of His soul. His flesh was not in rebellion to His will. Since our bodies die our flesh obeys the laws that bodies that die need to obey rather than serving our will. His body obeyed His will. If someone isn't going to die their experience of reality is radically different than someone who is going to die. Only He could choose to die for instance. We don't have that choice. That makes His suffering a sacrifice. There is little foundation to compare our experience of suffering with His.
there should be evidence, or a reference to Him going there.is there any scriptural evidence he went to Hell?
I've read all of it.
I am not able to pm you, but you are more than welcome to pm me.there should be evidence, or a reference to Him going there.
Do you wanna pm me, and we can discuss it ... ?
would you like my email instead ?I am not able to pm you, but you are more than welcome to pm me.
Ok. His experience of suffering was greater than any other person ever experienced.Not an answer to my question.
How could it be? Since humans will experience eternal suffering.Ok. His experience of suffering was greater than any other person ever experienced.
And you think that is subject to our judgement? God knows eternal realities we don't. The Japanese girl would choose not to be suffering. A person in hell would rather suffer the absence of God than His presence.How could it be? Since humans will experience eternal suffering.
Did we go off topic? What is the topic? Did you have questions or just comments?Yup. If she thought the rape, murder and torture was bad...well it hasn't gotten any better for her.
Why are presuming what Furuta would 'choose'? Or people in Hell for that matter?And you think that is subject to our judgement? God knows eternal realities we don't. The Japanese girl would choose not to be suffering. A person in hell would rather suffer the absence of God than His presence.
there is only eternal suffering in a place called hell, or Hades.How could it be? Since humans will experience eternal suffering.
Are no humans going to go to Hell?there is only eternal suffering in a place called hell, or Hades.
Heaven is glorious.
those who don't want to believe in Jesus.Are no humans going to go to Hell?
It is a question asked in ignorance of Jesus. You've gotten the answer you don't have the prerequisite knowledge to recognize it.Not an answer to my question.
No. The torment he unsaved will experience, being exposed by the return of our Lord Jesus, is not eternal.God doesn't permit eternal torment?
Yes. But one can't blame God for that. If God has revealed Himself fully yet is still rejected, what more can God do?Are no humans going to go to Hell?
Instead of destroying his enemies, Lord bore the sins of mankind, the shame of us, the unbelief in him, the spitting on him, the mocking, the beating, the false witnesses, the contradicting, the hate, the murder. It was the wrath of sinner inflicted on the Son of God, not the wrath of God,What?
Your post needs explanation.
Though you and others offer it, I haven't seen her value human suffering through the lense of Jesus Christ.