We know about throwing out law, does the law have anything good about it??

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do you know where you're headed?
i've seen people go down this road, Hizikyah.

so who corrupted the Hebrew scriptures, Hizikyah?
and added Amen 108 times?


amen: verily, truly
Original Word: אָמֵן
Part of Speech: adverb
Transliteration: amen
Phonetic Spelling: (aw-mane')
Short Definition: Amen

aman: to confirm, support
Original Word: אָמַן
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: aman
Phonetic Spelling: (aw-man')
Short Definition: believe

aww mane which is the correct hebrew pronunciation

and

amen

are 2 different things.

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Some seem to want to make this a joking matter, it is not, and no Yahweh did not "lose control", He tells us whats going on.

Zephanyah 3:9, "Yes, at that time I will return to the peoples a pure language, so that all of them may call on the Name of Yahweh, and serve Him with one accord"

Isayah 65:16, "And the names of your gods will remain as a trap; test, to My chosen; for Yahweh our Father will slay you, but he will give His servants a Name, that will remain forever."

Yeremyah 23:26-27, "How long will this be in the heart of the prophets who prophesy lies? Yes, they are prophets of the deceit of their own minds plan and scheme, to cause My people to forget My Name through their dreams, which they tell every man to his neighbor, just as their fathers have forgotten My Name for Baal."

BAAL (DEITY) [Hebrew - baal] . Canaanite storm and fertility god. The name, which means “lord, ” is an epithet of the god Hadad (lit. “thunderer” ). Well-known from the OT, he is now extremely well-attested in the Ugaritic texts, in addition to being mentioned in other ancient texts.
Freedman, David Noel: The Anchor Bible Dictionary. New York : Doubleday, 1996, c1992, S. 1:546

Yahshua, Yehoshua, Y'shua, Yeshua, Iesous, Iesus Or Jesus

The Sacred Name or True Name


There has been much controversy about what the True Name or Sacred Name of the Messiah is, with all sorts of speculation and conjecture being taught as fact. Below are some statements that I have heard over the years:

"The name of YAHshua has been replaced by the names of G-zeus (Jesus), and Ea-zeus meaning healing zeus (Iesus, and Iesous) which are pagan in origin."

"Now that we know that his real Hebrew name is YAHshua, we can't use Jesus any more in good conscience."

"I prefer to use the Hebrew name YAHshua, instead of His Gentile nickname Jesus."

"As true believers we need to refuse the blasphemous talmudic moniker of Yeshua and use his true name YAHshua."

“The name Baal means “Lord” in Hebrew. The church translators replaced the true name of the Messiah, YAHshua with the title “Lord”. When people use that title, they are unknowingly worshiping a pagan idol, and that is why it is so important that we restore the true Hebrew name YAHshua back into the English translations.”

"Jesus" is nothing more than a pseudo substitute for the true name YAHSHUA."

"You should not use the name Ge-sus because the Ge means earth or soil in Greek, and the sus means swine or pig in Latin, so you are saying "earth pig".

"Jesus is a corrupted name derived from the Greek IESOUS. Ies, or iysh in Hebrew means man, while sus -soos means horse, so when you speak that name, you are referring to the Messiah as “man horse” or “man beast”."

"The name IESOUS or “hey-soos” means “hey horse”. Just look at this example: Ps.33:17, “An horse (Heb. hey-soos/Grk. Iesous/ Eng. Jesus) is a vain hope for safety; neither shall he deliver any by its great strength.”"

Yahshua, Yehoshua, Y'shua, Yeshua, Iesous, Iesus, or Jesus The Sacred Name or True Name < click

"We should consider what would be the language that Andrew and Phillip addressed them in, and while we are at it, maybe we should check the language of origin for the names Andrew and Phillip. We are also told in the scriptures that Matthew was a tax collector, so he would have to be versed in the language of commerce which was Koine Greek, and we know that Luke (Loukas) was a Greek physician.

We can safely assume that Paul addressed the Greek Stoics about the "unknown god" in Greek (Acts 17:23) as that was the language of the educated philosophers, and in scripture we are also told that he addressed the Roman centurion in Greek (Acts 21:37). This should also raise the question as to what language the Messiah conversed with Pilate in."


so Loukas was in on it.
Paul was blaspheming.
Andrew and Philip needed new names.....ya?

can the NT be trusted at all at this point, Hizikyah?
 
so you pick someone else views that say one thing I did and tie their whole article to me...

yeah we are done here, there is no attempt for seeking truth that I see.
 

i love truth not lies and foolish doctrine as keep 9 and leave out the other

We have not spoken about the Sabbath, you and I. Because of your assumption of what you think I feel about the Sabbath, the Love I point to is darkness? Try not to speak before you think. They who do oftentimes feel foolish at the end.
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Isaiah 8:16

King James Version (KJV)

16 Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples. It did not say jews alone did it


Again, we are under a new 'Testimony' and it has its own Law for His disciples. Our righteousness now comes through faith, not fleshly obedience. Does it not tell us that it is not about the putting away the filth of the flesh, but a good conscious towards God? Let us die to the flesh and become alive to the spirit and by the Spirit, we shall live. The Covenant of the flesh is no longer. It has been replaced with the Covenant of the heart. A soul which follows his spirit, seeks things from the Spirit. A soul which follows his flesh, has yet to die to the old Covenant and remains in it. Is it not said that those of the old shall have no justification? Christ will not die twice-told.


Isaiah 8:20

King James Version (KJV)

20To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

And we have received a new Covenant. There is a Law from the Spirit sent from Jesus Christ and it is Love (spirit). When we follow love as our Law, then we die to the flesh (old Covenant) as a means of our righteousness. But, there is no hope for those who willfully cling to the old method, even Jesus Himself said that the flesh never did please God. Come and let us abandon our flesh and let us seek the righteousness which Christ offers.

Would you not agree that they who come and teach any other Gospel then that of Jesus Christ do not come in the light? Have we not a new law? Have we not a new TESTIMONY given to us from the very Son of the Living God? Let His path be the path we are on and let us abandon Moses' path. One is God Himself and the other gave the sentencing of death.

--Chris
 
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aww mane which is the correct hebrew pronunciation

and

amen

are 2 different things.

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:)

keeping in mind i SPEAK ENGLISH...
so i'm blaspheming, and actually worshipping an idol if my inflection says Aww - men.
but i'm pleasing to God if my inflection says Aww - mane.

men vs mane

what if i am from Texas?
they would pronounce it AwwMane, yes?

did they get it right by virtue of their dialect?

like...are...you serious?


John 7:49
"No one of the rulers or Pharisees has believed in Him, has he? "But this crowd which does not know the Law is accursed."

John 7:52
They replied, "Are you from Galilee, too? Look into it, and you will find that a prophet does not come out of Galilee."
 
Jesus doesnt mind dialects
he made all of them
it is the heart.

It would be good to change the name of this thread to say
"The thread that covers everything"
 
so you pick someone else views that say one thing I did and tie their whole article to me...

yeah we are done here, there is no attempt for seeking truth that I see.

this is pretty close - in fact it's exactly what you've been saying.:

“The name Baal means “Lord” in Hebrew. The church translators replaced the true name of the Messiah, YAHshua with the title “Lord”. When people use that title, they are unknowingly worshiping a pagan idol, and that is why it is so important that we restore the true Hebrew name YAHshua back into the English translations.”

so i wondered where you got your information.
 
You are mistaken when you say that law is only what was written for Moses. The law is a spiritual fact, a part of God, in the spiritual make up of our world. It was put into place on the first day of creation when God looked at the darkness that was the earth, the darkness of misery and confusion, and said let there by light, the light of peace, goodness, and security. The words of the law were first given to men to memorize, later to write. Moses wrote ways man can express them as a constitution for the land God gave the Hebrews.
Those of Moses' house are led by the Law into death.
Those of the Son's house are led by the Spirit into Life.

The moral Laws of God stands forever, but the Law of the flesh has been forsaken and replaced with the Law of the spirit.

Jesus says that He is the Way. There is no other path which one can led another on to get to the Father.
 
Worship is in the heart.
a child saying Jesus or Lord is not worshipping an idol
God accepts our honest worship

See, the pagan monks took the vaticanus into LATIN which is apostate pagan language, they had no name for the true God so satan thought he had corrupted the Bible

Well God is love
200 million burnings at the stakes over 1800 years says God loves those who call him Lord, that is all they know

He will not reject your wi=orship for what a pope did in 400 AD when Jerome tried to pollute the Bible

he says ok
call me Lord
we will CHANGE THE MEANING of the word Lord to my name

language changes
now Lord is a good name and doesnt mean landowner

yes his name in aramaic is Yahshua
but Jesus is the sweetest name to me
and he accepts his names as he gave them to us.

He sanctifies unsanctified names with his holy spirit

those 200 million martyrs will go to heaven
they didnt know
all they knew is they love Jesus

There is no way you will be lost by praying to JEsus He loves that name and he also loves his real name for the children who speak aramaic

so I would drop it
it is the heart

my wife married me
she calls me Bear
that not my name
but I like it.
 
We actually will soon call him Ishi

e need to drop religon
and take on love


I Joel chapter two it talks about us

Joel 2:1 Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand;
Joel 2:2 A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations.
Joel 2:3 A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them.
Joel 2:4 The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run.
Joel 2:5 Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap, like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble, as a strong people set in battle array.
Joel 2:6 Before their face the people shall be much pained: all faces shall gather blackness.
Joel 2:7 They shall run like mighty men; they shall climb the wall like men of war; and they shall march every one on his ways, and they shall not break their ranks:
Joel 2:8 Neither shall one thrust another; they shall walk every one in his path: and when they fall upon the sword, they shall not be wounded.
Joel 2:9 They shall run to and fro in the city; they shall run upon the wall, they shall climb up upon the houses; they shall enter in at the windows like a thief.
Joel 2:10 The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining:
Joel 2:11 And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the day of the LORD is great and very terrible; and who can abide it?
Joel 2:12 Therefore also now, saith the LORD, turn ye even to me with all your heart, and with fasting, and with weeping, and with mourning:
Joel 2:13 And rend your heart, and not your garments, and turn unto the LORD your God: for he is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repenteth him of the evil.
Joel 2:14 Who knoweth if he will return and repent, and leave a blessing behind him; even a meat offering and a drink offering unto the LORD your God?
Joel 2:15 Blow the trumpet in Zion, sanctify a fast, call a solemn assembly:
Joel 2:16 Gather the people, sanctify the congregation, assemble the elders, gather the children, and those that suck the breasts: let the bridegroom go forth of his chamber, and the bride out of her closet.
Joel 2:17 Let the priests, the ministers of the LORD, weep between the porch and the altar, and let them say, Spare thy people, O LORD, and give not thine heritage to reproach, that the heathen should rule over them: wherefore should they say among the people, Where is their God?
Joel 2:18 Then will the LORD be jealous for his land, and pity his people.
Joel 2:19 Yea, the LORD will answer and say unto his people, Behold, I will send you corn, and wine, and oil, and ye shall be satisfied therewith: and I will no more make you a reproach among the heathen:
Joel 2:20 But I will remove far off from you the northern army, and will drive him into a land barren and desolate, with his face toward the east sea, and his hinder part toward the utmost sea, and his stink shall come up, and his ill savour shall come up, because he hath done great things.
Joel 2:21 Fear not, O land; be glad and rejoice: for the LORD will do great things.
Joel 2:22 Be not afraid, ye beasts of the field: for the pastures of the wilderness do spring, for the tree beareth her fruit, the fig tree and the vine do yield their strength.
Joel 2:23 Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God: for he hath given you the former rain moderately, and he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month.
Joel 2:24 And the floors shall be full of wheat, and the vats shall overflow with wine and oil.
Joel 2:25 And I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten, the cankerworm, and the caterpillar, and the palmerworm, my great army which I sent among you.
Joel 2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my people shall never be ashamed.
Joel 2:27 And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the LORD your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed.
Joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
Joel 2:29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.
Joel 2:30 And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
Joel 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.
Joel 3:1 For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem,
Joel 3:2 I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.
Joel 3:3 And they have cast lots for my people; and have given a boy for an harlot, and sold a girl for wine, that they might drink.
Joel 3:4 Yea, and what have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Zidon, and all the coasts of Palestine? will ye render me a recompense? and if ye recompense me, swiftly and speedily will I return your recompense upon your own head;
Joel 3:5 Because ye have taken my silver and my gold, and have carried into your temples my goodly pleasant things:
Joel 3:6 The children also of Judah and the children of Jerusalem have ye sold unto the Grecians, that ye might remove them far from their border.
Joel 3:7 Behold, I will raise them out of the place whither ye have sold them, and will return your recompense upon your own head:
Joel 3:8 And I will sell your sons and your daughters into the hand of the children of Judah, and they shall sell them to the Sabeans, to a people far off: for the LORD hath spoken it.
Joel 3:9 Proclaim ye this among the Gentiles; Prepare war, wake up the mighty men, let all the men of war draw near; let them come up:
Joel 3:10 Beat your plowshares into swords, and your pruninghooks into spears: let the weak say, I am strong.
Joel 3:11 Assemble yourselves, and come, all ye heathen, and gather yourselves together round about: thither cause thy mighty ones to come down, O LORD.
Joel 3:12 Let the heathen be wakened, and come up to the valley of Jehoshaphat: for there will I sit to judge all the heathen round about.
Joel 3:13 Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe: come, get you down; for the press is full, the vats overflow; for their wickedness is great.


The darkness is coming to a country near you this summer.
 
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Job 22:22Receive, I pray thee, the law from his mouth, and lay up his words in thine heart.
And we have been given a new Law under the new Covenant.

And with our spirit (heart) we do follow the Son.

The Son says that He is the Way. He alone knows that path and He shows us that path through the new Covenant.

Let us die to our flesh...let us die to the Law from Moses' house. His path leads to Hades for all, even those righteous under it until their Messiah came.

Let us become alive to our spirit...let us become alive to the Law from the Spirit sent from Jesus Christ's house. His path leads to Live for all who follow Him to the Father.
 
Lord if you look it up means
YAHWEH the eternal creator

so once you understand that meaning, now you can worship correctly

"Now therefore, I pray thee, pardon my sin, and turn again with me, that I may worship the LORD." 1 Samuel 15:25

3068. Yehovah, yeh-ho-vaw'; from H1961; (the) self-Existent or Eternal; Jeho-vah, Jewish national name of God:--Jehovah, the Lord. Comp. H3050, H3069.

that what that name means to me.

and the Lord inspires me by his holy spirit

that is how I know it is ok to use the word Lord
because when I pray to the LORD he inspires me with his ruach hakodesh
and lightens my mind and all that is within me

so it is not as big a deal as the yahweh people say it is

the thought we have to say YAHWEH to be saved, could be a human addition to the scriptures because it is our great desire to add people to the congregation

but trust in the Lord Yahweh
he will bring us together
how we pronounce is not matter if we know in our hearts
 
Some africans cannot possibly say my real name
they just cant
it is too funny
but I know they are talking ot me.
I am learning love.
 
And we have been given a new Law under the new Covenant.

And with our spirit (heart) we do follow the Son.

The Son says that He is the Way. He alone knows that path and He shows us that path through the new Covenant.

Let us die to our flesh...let us die to the Law from Moses' house. His path leads to Hades for all, even those righteous under it until their Messiah came.

Let us become alive to our spirit...let us become alive to the Law from the Spirit sent from Jesus Christ's house. His path leads to Live for all who follow Him to the Father.

What is your favourite proverb and Why ?
 
I sincerely sympathize with you
it would be nice for everyone to say YAHWEH!
but it isnt going to happen
Jesus has sheep in all countries
but we will tolerate each other in much love

when you say YAHWEH I say AMEN
1 When she says Lord I say PRAISE THE LORD!
we know our creator

Love, peace soon we will be in the same concentration camps
we ought to know what these things mean

please ppost all the 'YAHWEH and YAHSHUA stuff you can so we can get used to it
soon we will be praying behind barbed wire fences together
the beast is mad.
 
We have not spoken about the Sabbath, you and I. Because of your assumption of what you think I feel about the Sabbath, the Love I point to is darkness? Try not to speak before you think. They who do oftentimes feel foolish at the end.


Again, we are under a new 'Testimony' and it has its own Law for His disciples. Our righteousness now comes through faith, not fleshly obedience. Does it not tell us that it is not about the putting away the filth of the flesh, but a good conscious towards God? Let us die to the flesh and become alive to the spirit and by the Spirit, we shall live. The Covenant of the flesh is no longer. It has been replaced with the Covenant of the heart. A soul which follows his spirit, seeks things from the Spirit. A soul which follows his flesh, has yet to die to the old Covenant and remains in it. Is it not said that those of the old shall have no justification? Christ will not die twice-told.[/SIZE]
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And we have received a new Covenant. There is a Law from the Spirit sent from Jesus Christ and it is Love (spirit). When we follow love as our Law, then we die to the flesh (old Covenant) as a means of our righteousness. But, there is no hope for those who willfully cling to the old method, even Jesus Himself said that the flesh never did please God. Come and let us abandon our flesh and let us seek the righteousness which Christ offers.

Would you not agree that they who come and teach any other Gospel then that of Jesus Christ do not come in the light? Have we not a new law? Have we not a new TESTIMONY given to us from the very Son of the Living God? Let His path be the path we are on and let us abandon Moses' path. One is God Himself and the other gave the sentencing of death.

--Chris

righteousness was always by faith

Abelbhad faith

love was always there you dont think

please tell me the new law because from genesis to revelation it is about love hmmm think about it

please tell me the new testimony ?
 
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righteousness was always by faith

Abelbhad faith

love was always there you dont think

please tell me the new law because from genesis to revelation it is about love hmmm think about it

please tell me the new testimony ?

The books of the Old Covenant was about obtaining rightouesness through the works of the flesh.

The books of the New Covenant is about dying to that means and becoming alive to our spirits so that we can mind the things of the Spirit.


One leads the flesh, the other leads the spirit.

New Testimony : God sent His Son to deliver a Message.

Old Testimony: God sent His servant Moses to deliver a message.

The questions remains: which one are we to follow to God the Father?

One leads to death. The other to Life.
 
Romans 13:8-10

King James Version (KJV)

8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.



Galatians 5:14

King James Version (KJV)

14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.


but hey i guess this isn't enough for people right? they tell God, i don't care what your word says i'm going to keep the sabbath in order to be " saved " despite you said that the entire law is fulfilled by Love, it's all in vain, look at cain and abel for example with the gifts they offer, God did not accept cains gift he wanted to add a little extra and make it " special " instead of sticking to what God REALLY wanted some of you should learn from that.

Do You know that it can and must be said also with the other first. One might say that one cannot truly love one's neighbor without keeping the commandments of the law. How can You? God is love. He authored His law. The New Testament writer wrote as recorded in Romans 7 "13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I." What spirit is it of? If one lives in the Spirit does not one love according to the definition that God's Spirit might give to love? What definition can that be, if any other than the commands His Spirit have already authored and given to mankind?