We must never forget

[jacko]

I honestly haven't looked deeply into that question. It would be a good one to explore. I do know that God is full of grace and mercy. But I wouldn't want to answer that question until I looked deeper.

Brother, at least you answered the question… so much props.

 

[Publican]

So do you agree that the Jews in the Holocaust are most likely…. Continue to suffer eternally after suffering a miserable death on earth?

So you have rejected all information sources, deemed them all works of the devil... And you have figured out the secret of everything, out there on the side of the mountain, all by yourself.

Suuuuuuuuuuuuure.

You do realize how ludicrous it sounds, right? You do know what a stereotype the "crazy old man on the side of the mountain who thinks he knows all the great secrets" is, right?

You do understand why it's hard for people to believe you... Right?

Folksy yet erudite? Alrighty then.

In my limited life experience of just under 60 years walking this plane,
I have managed to learn a few things. One of the most important things I've learned, though far too late, is what type of people should be avoided at all cost. And right near the top of that list are those who boast of their own intelligence while condescending to others.
Also near the top of that list are the contrarians, those who argue for the sake of it, not far behind would be those lacking in empathy and self awareness, But in your case,
I will make this brief exception, in the small hope that I might clear up any confusion you were having about my comment. And to address your slanderous nonsensical accusation.

Lynx said,
"So you have rejected all information sources, deemed them all works of the devil..."

This is quite the accusation, coming from someone who publicly advertises their own intellectual superiority. What I actually said, not the words which you placed in my mouth, are below.

"I'm no theologian praise God.
And I make no claims to special revelation or esoteric knowledge.
And while I endeavor daily to live a life of purity before God my Father.
I'm just another sinner like everyone else.

But this sinner, by the grace of God, knows when I'm being lied to. Does that mean I know the depth of the deception or am privy to all the details of such deception? No, of course not. It does mean, that I put no faith in man or the institutions of man, as man in his unregenerated state, is incapable of knowing God"

If you had given any thought to my actual words , and then maybe a little thought to your own words, you may have saved yourself some embarrassment. Ha ha. Never mind, I'm not sure that you are capable of embarrassment.

At any rate. Yes, I am the stereotypical crazy old man on the mountain. Just ask my kids. But as far as knowing all the great secrets. Read again my comment above, slowly if it helps.

I was not born on this mountain, or in a cave. I went to the same public schools you did, even wasted some time in college before my professional career. I too am well read, but unlike you I don't advertise. I have already plainly stated that my understanding of the bible, biblical prophecy, and current affairs did not come by direct revelation, so clearly I do have trusted sources. I just don't trust your sources. And nothing that I have learned, and shared with brother Jacko was any great secret.

It was Albert Einstein, and this is no endorsement of Einstein or his theories, who remarked;

"Condemnation prior to investigation is the height of ignorance."

I've done my research. All that I am guilty of in this forum, is encouraging others to do their own research. And of course, denying the official narrative that apparently cannot be criticized.

The dangers of holding so tightly to any belief that it cannot be criticized are well documented.

"Those who can convince you to believe in absurdities, can convince you to commit atrocities."
Voltaire

How much more dangerous would it be, to consider an entire nation, ethnic group, or religious cult, beyond reproach?

You are about to find out. And I have done my part to warn you.
This is a closed topic for me, at least in this forum. I've said what I had to say, everyone is free to do their own research or continue in their present paradigm.

As for you. Should you ever realize that just maybe, you aren't as brilliant as you claim to be. I suggest you go ask your husband for his opinion on these matters.

 

[jacko]

Folksy yet erudite? Alrighty then.

In my limited life experience of just under 60 years walking this plane,
I have managed to learn a few things. One of the most important things I've learned, though far too late, is what type of people should be avoided at all cost. And right near the top of that list are those who boast of their own intelligence while condescending to others.
Also near the top of that list are the contrarians, those who argue for the sake of it, not far behind would be those lacking in empathy and self awareness, But in your case,
I will make this brief exception, in the small hope that I might clear up any confusion you were having about my comment. And to address your slanderous nonsensical accusation.

Lynx said,
"So you have rejected all information sources, deemed them all works of the devil..."

This is quite the accusation, coming from someone who publicly advertises their own intellectual superiority. What I actually said, not the words which you placed in my mouth, are below.

"I'm no theologian praise God.
And I make no claims to special revelation or esoteric knowledge.
And while I endeavor daily to live a life of purity before God my Father.
I'm just another sinner like everyone else.

But this sinner, by the grace of God, knows when I'm being lied to. Does that mean I know the depth of the deception or am privy to all the details of such deception? No, of course not. It does mean, that I put no faith in man or the institutions of man, as man in his unregenerated state, is incapable of knowing God"

If you had given any thought to my actual words , and then maybe a little thought to your own words, you may have saved yourself some embarrassment. Ha ha. Never mind, I'm not sure that you are capable of embarrassment.

At any rate. Yes, I am the stereotypical crazy old man on the mountain. Just ask my kids. But as far as knowing all the great secrets. Read again my comment above, slowly if it helps.

I was not born on this mountain, or in a cave. I went to the same public schools you did, even wasted some time in college before my professional career. I too am well read, but unlike you I don't advertise. I have already plainly stated that my understanding of the bible, biblical prophecy, and current affairs did not come by direct revelation, so clearly I do have trusted sources. I just don't trust your sources. And nothing that I have learned, and shared with brother Jacko was any great secret.

It was Albert Einstein, and this is no endorsement of Einstein or his theories, who remarked;

"Condemnation prior to investigation is the height of ignorance."

I've done my research. All that I am guilty of in this forum, is encouraging others to do their own research. And of course, denying the official narrative that apparently cannot be criticized.

The dangers of holding so tightly to any belief that it cannot be criticized are well documented.

"Those who can convince you to believe in absurdities, can convince you to commit atrocities."
Voltaire

How much more dangerous would it be, to consider an entire nation, ethnic group, or religious cult, beyond reproach?

You are about to find out. And I have done my part to warn you.
This is a closed topic for me, at least in this forum. I've said what I had to say, everyone is free to do their own research or continue in their present paradigm.

As for you. Should you ever realize that just maybe, you aren't as brilliant as you claim to be. I suggest you go ask your husband for his opinion on these matters.

Yea man, I don’t see anything wrong with somebody saying look into this or that for yourself and come to your own conclusions… Basically that’s what Elon musk is saying on censorship.

Even if we don’t agree, I don’t think there’s anything wrong or check that out… Nothing should be taboo and nothing should be off-limits..

 

[Publican]

I will add the following…. May the Lord rebuke me if I said something that was out of line..
After all, I do understand that we are saved through a Jewish Messiah.

Amen

You are saved by a Judean Messiah

 

[Publican]

Yea man, I don’t see anything wrong with somebody saying look into this or that for yourself and come to your own conclusions… Basically that’s what Elon musk is saying on censorship.

Even if we don’t agree, I don’t think there’s anything wrong or check that out… Nothing should be taboo and nothing should be off-limits..

I don't know how much ministry you've done, but speaking to dispensationalists is very similar to speaking with LDS or JW's. They are completely entrenched in their ideology and aggressively averse to any alternative points of view. You see it here all the time. If I had a buck for every time someone called me a heretic, I wouldn't be so cold this evening.

 

[Publican]

Or that they were cut off for our sake.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Yea man, I don’t see anything wrong with somebody saying look into this or that for yourself and come to your own conclusions… Basically that’s what Elon musk is saying on censorship.

Even if we don’t agree, I don’t think there’s anything wrong or check that out… Nothing should be taboo and nothing should be off-limits..

Conspiracy theories belong in that forum, agreed? Although our friend here saying the Holocaust never happened, or pushing an article that intimates that, should not be on a Christian site. IMO CC doesn't espouse this POV. Except for less than a handful, everyone here on CC would agree, the Holocaust happened.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

If I had a buck for every time someone called me a heretic, I wouldn't be so cold this evening.

Yeah, we stick to facts, we're silly that way.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

This is a closed topic for me, at least in this forum.

I'll hold you to that.

I've said what I had to say, everyone is free to do their own research or continue in their present paradigm.

I love how people like you act like they have done "research" like there is some new information instead of the re-chewed cud anti-Semites/ ant-Jews have been spewing for the last 75 years. Same 75 year old propaganda.

As for you. Should you ever realize that just maybe, you aren't as brilliant as you claim to be. I suggest you go ask your husband for his opinion on these matters.

I don't know who you're talking to "Lynx" is male and unmarried. If you're speaking to him he can well defend himself but as people go around here, he's one of the cream of the crop in all the years I have been here. Just because he knocked your ego down a peg or two doesn't mean that he isn't one of the most liked people here. One of the most stable, genuine, and yes intelligent. We are seldom found in the same places on this forum, we seldom speak, but this is my observance since I have been on this site for a lot longer than most.

BTW it doesn't take a brilliant person to sniff out revisionist history and propaganda. Like I said, re-chewed and regurgitated bunk. Please go sell it to a more gullible people elsewhere.

 

[JaumeJ]

BTW it doesn't take a brilliant person to sniff out revisionist history and propaganda. Like I said, re-chewed and regurgitated bunk. Please go sell it to a more gullible people elsewhere.

Speaking of revisionist purging of truth, I am blessed to be here after many decades. I am blessed to share what I have experienced and seen.
In the 1950s the number given for the deaths in the death cames of WWII Germany were always publishes as four million Jews exterminated plus two million exterminated of people the Nazis simply did not want in their society.
Since that time the numbers remained the same until the late 60's, early 70's settling down to just Jews at six million, leaving out the two millions of non-Jews.
People do not seem to remember a month ago these days, let alone the way the statistics have been altered.
I was approached to offer my pittance of abilities to the Mosad, to which I replied, I would not work for the CIA,, so why would I offer myself to such anorganization? That Jew refused to speak to me again, a worker for various holocaust musems.
None of the above is written in the Word, it is simply history of the creation unaware of God's will for individuals.

My Savior is Jesus, Yeshua, none other. My family is all who praise God, Yahweh. You continue to put forth your facts. Facts of this age will burn come the Return of Yeshua.

 

[Lynx]

I suggest you go ask your husband for his opinion on these matters.

Dude. You calling me gay? Because I'm definitely not.

And what's with all the mention about how cold you are? You keep bringing up how you have no money and no heat and it's getting cold. Are you trying to get somebody to donate money?

As for your primary contention, basically that all the mainline sources of information are lies and you know the truth: The only thing I have left to say on that is, we have heard that sooooooooo many times before. But the people we have heard it from all claim different truths.

If all of you "YOU'RE ALL BEING LIED TO!!!" people said the same thing, it might be believable. Maybe all you conspiracy theorists should get together and get your stories straight. It wouldn't make you right, but at least people wouldn't turn you off so quickly because you all say different things.

 

[Lynx]

Folksy yet erudite? Alrighty then.

In my limited life experience of just under 60 years walking this plane,
I have managed to learn a few things. One of the most important things I've learned, though far too late, is what type of people should be avoided at all cost. And right near the top of that list are those who boast of their own intelligence while condescending to others.
Also near the top of that list are the contrarians, those who argue for the sake of it, not far behind would be those lacking in empathy and self awareness, But in your case,
I will make this brief exception, in the small hope that I might clear up any confusion you were having about my comment. And to address your slanderous nonsensical accusation.

Lynx said,
"So you have rejected all information sources, deemed them all works of the devil..."

This is quite the accusation, coming from someone who publicly advertises their own intellectual superiority. What I actually said, not the words which you placed in my mouth, are below.

"I'm no theologian praise God.
And I make no claims to special revelation or esoteric knowledge.
And while I endeavor daily to live a life of purity before God my Father.
I'm just another sinner like everyone else.

But this sinner, by the grace of God, knows when I'm being lied to. Does that mean I know the depth of the deception or am privy to all the details of such deception? No, of course not. It does mean, that I put no faith in man or the institutions of man, as man in his unregenerated state, is incapable of knowing God"

If you had given any thought to my actual words , and then maybe a little thought to your own words, you may have saved yourself some embarrassment. Ha ha. Never mind, I'm not sure that you are capable of embarrassment.

At any rate. Yes, I am the stereotypical crazy old man on the mountain. Just ask my kids. But as far as knowing all the great secrets. Read again my comment above, slowly if it helps.

I was not born on this mountain, or in a cave. I went to the same public schools you did, even wasted some time in college before my professional career. I too am well read, but unlike you I don't advertise. I have already plainly stated that my understanding of the bible, biblical prophecy, and current affairs did not come by direct revelation, so clearly I do have trusted sources. I just don't trust your sources. And nothing that I have learned, and shared with brother Jacko was any great secret.

It was Albert Einstein, and this is no endorsement of Einstein or his theories, who remarked;

"Condemnation prior to investigation is the height of ignorance."

I've done my research. All that I am guilty of in this forum, is encouraging others to do their own research. And of course, denying the official narrative that apparently cannot be criticized.

The dangers of holding so tightly to any belief that it cannot be criticized are well documented.

"Those who can convince you to believe in absurdities, can convince you to commit atrocities."
Voltaire

How much more dangerous would it be, to consider an entire nation, ethnic group, or religious cult, beyond reproach?

You are about to find out. And I have done my part to warn you.
This is a closed topic for me, at least in this forum. I've said what I had to say, everyone is free to do their own research or continue in their present paradigm.

As for you. Should you ever realize that just maybe, you aren't as brilliant as you claim to be. I suggest you go ask your husband for his opinion on these matters.

Please notice I never claimed all the mainline sources of information are correct about everything. The food pyramid, for example... It is pretty much a proven fact that they made that up to support farmers.

I'm just saying that all you "THEY ARE LYING TO YOU!" people would sound a lot more credible if you all said the same things are really true instead of all claiming different things.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

You continue to put forth your facts. Facts of this age will burn come the Return of Yeshua.

Facts aren't the only thing that will burn my friend. God takes innocent shed blood seriously. "Just" however many Jews, doesn't justify their murder. God's wrath burns for ANY innocent blood shed with intent. This is why abortion is wrong. There are things I will not back down on, and this is one of them.

“There are six things which Jehovah hateth; Yea, seven which are an abomination unto him: Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, And hands that shed innocent blood "


PS. Another thing I don't back down on is "newbies" coming here and tearing apart the CC "family" they don't even know. Several of us have been here many years and I will defend my sisters and brothers that I have known to be good folk, and sincere Christians.

 

[Lynx]

Eh, people like that never last long. Either they get butt hurt about too many things and leave with their knickers in a knot, or they get banned.

Unfortunately there are always others ready to take their place. And I don't even mean the same people under new nicknames, although that does happen sometimes here. There are always genuine new people who will come in, kick up a lot of dust and then leave in a huff.

But at least it's not boring here. Never boring.

 

[JaumeJ]

Facts aren't the only thing that will burn my friend. God takes innocent shed blood seriously. "Just" however many Jews, doesn't justify their murder. God's wrath burns for ANY innocent blood shed with intent. This is why abortion is wrong. There are things I will not back down on, and this is one of them.

“There are six things which Jehovah hateth; Yea, seven which are an abomination unto him: Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, And hands that shed innocent blood "


PS. Another thing I don't back down on is "newbies" coming here and tearing apart the CC "family" they don't even know. Several of us have been here many years and I will defend my sisters and brothers that I have known to be good folk, and sincere Christians.

First, I am foremost at condemning what is referred to now as the holocaust. What galls me to some degree is how it ihas been used to promote a dislike, even hatred of all who are not behind these promoters.
I believe I am believing God before I believe a publicity campaign that distorts the truth.
I have no nameable denomination, nor will I ever. I believe as Jesus Yeshua teaches, the faith of Abraham,.

Contuse upbraiding innocent's who do not follow your political way of thinking, or better, your denominational news.
Do not forget to repeat just how devoted you are to those who call themselves Jews, yet know nothing of our blessed Savior, and His Sacrifice for us all. By the way, holocaust means sacrifice. Think about that.

 

[Eli1]

Also, this is the guy who started World War 2.

 

[JaumeJ]

Also, this is the guy who started World War 2.

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I always wondered about that guy!

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

First, I am foremost at condemning what is referred to now as the holocaust. What galls me to some degree is how it ihas been used to promote a dislike, even hatred of all who are not behind these promoters.
I believe I am believing God before I believe a publicity campaign that distorts the truth.
I have no nameable denomination, nor will I ever. I believe as Jesus Yeshua teaches, the faith of Abraham,.

Who are the promoters and what are the distortions?

Contuse upbraiding innocent's who do not follow your political way of thinking, or better, your denominational news.

This has nothing to do with either. It's about facts of history.

Do not forget to repeat just how devoted you are to those who call themselves Jews,

The vast majority of people believe the Holocaust happened. Take a poll here and see if I'm correct.

yet know nothing of our blessed Savior, and His Sacrifice for us all.

There are millions around the world that don't know God. Romans 11 says,

“God gave them, (the Jews) a spirit of stupor,
eyes that could not see
and ears that could not hear,
to this very day.”

but...

17 If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, 18 do not consider yourself to be superior to those other branches.
. Do not be arrogant, but tremble. 23 And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.

 

[JaumeJ]

Hey, why are you discussing the Word in miscellaneous. I just saw it is under that category. Take your goading on the way you see the Word to the Bible Discussion room.