What are his commandments?

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103» 1Cor 11:1 . . Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.

In the Catholic religion, a "saint" is a role model for others. Well, 1Cor 11:1
lists an exceptional model for everyone regardless of their age, race, gender,
and/or religious affiliation.

Christ is very famous 'round the world for exemplifying the virtues of
kindness, loyalty, forgiveness, lenience, and generosity.
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104» 1Cor 11:3 . . But I would have you know, that the head of every man
is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is
God.

It never seems to fail that somebody will actually attempt to refute Paul's
statement by quoting another of his own statements.

"You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus, for all of you who were
baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew
nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ
Jesus." (Gal 3:26-28)

(chuckle) Paul pitted against Paul; the clash of the titans, only in this event,
both titans are one and the same titan. Yes, both genders are one in Christ;
but then Jesus and God are one also, yet there is a hierarchy in the Divinity
because "the head of Christ is God"
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105» 1Cor 11:4-5a . . Every man who prays or prophesies with his head
covered disrespects his head. And every woman who prays or prophesies
with her head uncovered disrespects her head

That's a little tricky seeing as how the word "head" can refer to a skull
and/or a superior; so to clarify this a bit, I'm going to revise some of the
above a little.

"Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered disrespects
Christ. And every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered
disrespects men."

Some of the world's women have made disrespecting men their life's work;
and nothing makes them happier than finding ways to chafe one. When they
become a Christian, it's imperative they give up that particular ambition.

This issue isn't really a gender issue, it's a progenitor issue.

The woman wasn't made directly from the dust of the ground like the man
was. She was constructed with material taken from the man's body; which
makes him every woman's father. So that when women disrespect men,
they are actually disrespecting their paternal ancestor; which is a shameful
thing to do in any culture; not just the Christian religion.

Christian women aren't required to cover their hair all the time; only
whenever they pray and/or prophesy; especially in the presence of men.

No doubt this is very disagreeable with a certain number of Christian women
whose heart's ambition is to assert their independence and demand equality.
Well, if they don't want to cover their hair when praying and/or prophesying
out of respect for men, then they should at least woman-up and do it out of
respect for Christ's feelings about it; after all, he's supposed to be every
Christian woman's lord and master. In other words; this is more a test of
one's loyalty than a test of their politics.

John 14:15 . . If you love me, you will comply with what I command.

John 14:21 . .Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one
who loves me.

John 14:23-24 . . If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching . . He who
does not love me will not obey my teaching.

John 15:14 . .You are my friends if you do what I command you.

NOTE: According to 1Cor 14:37 and 1Thess 4:1-2, the apostles' doctrine is
Christ's doctrine; it's a domino effect all the way to the top.

Luke 10:16 . .Whoever listens to you; listens to me. Whoever rejects you;
rejects me. And whoever rejects me; rejects the one who sent me.

NOTE: It was a woman who first joined forces with the Serpent to bring
about the destruction of her source of existence; so I think we should take
that event into consideration relative to this particular commandment. (Gen
3:1-6)
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3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

So what are his commandments?
God's commandments are the biblical principles or teachings revealing his will in the whole Bible. We must be obedient to those forms or his will in the power of Jesus' victory.
 
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3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

So what are his commandments?
His Commandments are the 10 Commandments.

Jn. 1:1,3,14 prove that Jesus Christ is the Creator and that He created all things.

This includes the decalogue written by the finger of God into solid stone.

Christ taught all of the 10 Commandments.

He obeyed all of the 10 Commandments.

He declared that absolutely nothing He said/did differed in any way from the Father.

And His closest followers obeyed the 10 Commandments after His death upon the Cross.

We know for certain that John is referring to God's Law, the 10 Commandments.

In the very next chapter (1 Jn. 3:4) John defines sin as the breaking of the 10 Commandments.
 

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106» 1Cor 11:5b-6a . . it is just as though her head were shorn. If a woman
does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off;

It's tempting to construe these rules as demeaning to women; but we're
getting at something fundamental here that goes all the way back to the first
few chapters of Genesis.

Women, by nature, are far more alluring than men. And that's okay @ home
and/or out in the world where they're allowed to pour on the glam and look
amazing. But in the presence of God, they ought to dull their shine a bit due
to Adam's supremacy in the grand scheme of things which, in the long run,
professes a Christian woman's belief in intelligent design. (The principle
underlying this rule is quite a bit different than the reasons why
conscientious Muslim women wear hijabs.)

1Cor 11:6b . . If it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or
shaved off, she should cover her head.

If Christian women would be somewhat embarrassed to show up in church
with a man's haircut, then they have only one other option; and that's to
show up in church with a women's. But in order to retain their femininity in
the presence of God; they are simply going to have to tone their allure down
a bit by obscuring their hair with something or heaven will have no choice
but to assume the worst about them.

NOTE: Christianity's gender hierarchy is based upon primogeniture, i.e. the
man was created before the woman; plus she was constructed from the man
and for the man; and thus owes her existence to a man; and her role is a
supporting role rather than a starring role. These rules are no doubt
unacceptable to modern feminists, but if we attempt to appease their
discontent we'll only end up disappointing our superior in Heaven.
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107» 1Cor 11:7-10 . . A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the
image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man. For man did not
come from woman, but woman from man; neither was man created for
woman, but woman for man. For this reason, and because of the angels, the
woman ought to have a token of authority on her head.

There's probably as much disagreement about the identity of the angels in
that passage as there is about the sons of God in the 6th chapter of Genesis.
Well; whoever these angels are, or whatever they are, they're apparently
indignant when they see women in church acting as though they're equals
with men in the presence of God.

Christians have simply got to come to grips with the fact that women will
never be equal to men in the divine order of things. No, they will always be
daddy's little girl. Ergo: women aren't from Venus after all; no, they're
actually the daughters of Mars (so to speak).

POSIT: Paul meant that hair coverings are optional when he said: "But if any
man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches
of God" (1Cor 11:16)

REPLY: That is yet another example of people refuting Paul by quoting Paul.

The "custom" he's talking about is women praying and or prophesying bare
headed. Apparently the Jews' synagogues, and all the rest of the Christian
churches in the Roman world required their women to attend with something
on their heads. Since that was so, then why ever would the Corinthian
Christians think that their women were somehow exempt?

"Judge in yourselves: is it proper that a woman pray unto God uncovered?"
(1Cor 11:13)

The answer of course is NO; it isn't proper-- it's insolent, inappropriate, and
disrespectful; plus it is conduct unbecoming for women professing to revere
Christ's right to tell his followers how to be a Christian.
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108» 1Cor 11:27-30 . .Whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord
in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood
of the Lord. A man ought to examine himself before he eats of the bread and
drinks of the cup. For anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the
body of the Lord eats and drinks judgment on himself. That is why many
among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep.

The Greek word for "unworthy" basically means: irreverently; which
Webster's defines as: lacking proper respect or seriousness. In other words
"sacrilege" which is gross irreverence toward a hallowed person, place, or
thing.

"sinning against the body and blood of the Lord" is very similar language to
1Cor 6:18, which states: The immoral man sins against his own body. There,
as here, we're not talking about suicide and/or homicide; were talking about
desecration; which Webster's defines as: to violate the sanctity of, to
profane-- viz: to treat with disrespect, i.e. irreverently and/or outrageously.

People sin during the Lord's supper when they fail to take it seriously that
the elements represent his body-- not his so-called glorified body; but the
one that was crucified; viz; his disfigured, bloodied body.

What do you suppose went on during those three hours of thick darkness
around the cross? (Matt 27:45) Well; the abuse that the Romans inflicted on
Christ was merely a warm up for the main event. When the darkness came;
that's when God stepped into the ring; and the gloves came off. When the
darkness lifted, people saw a Jesus so beaten and bloodied beyond
recognition that they could scarcely tell he was the same man.

Isa 52:14 . .There were many who were appalled at him-- his appearance
was so disfigured beyond that of any man, and his form marred beyond
human likeness.

Isa 53:10 . . Jehovah was pleased to crush him, putting him to grief

I have to wonder how ever a father could do something like that to his own
son; especially for a world that wouldn't even appreciate that the injuries
God inflicted upon His own son were for their benefit.

"A man ought to examine himself" is an imperative to make double sure that
one's heart is in the right place when consuming the elements (a.k.a.
species). Some people gulp them down as if they were nothing more than a
snack of hot wings and cold beer during a Super Bowl game instead of a
sacred reminder of what God's son endured to ransom their souls from a
second death in the lake of brimstone depicted at Rev 20:11-15. Those
people have to expect that a very indignant father is going to come down on
them for that-- maybe not with sickness, maybe not with death, and maybe
not right away; but eventually with something; and really, who can blame
Him?

NOTE: Observance of the Lord's supper isn't a mandatory requirement; so if
you are a bit nervous about going about it in the wrong way, then don't take
chances; play it safe and refrain.
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109» 1Cor 11:33-34 . . My brethren, when you come together to eat, wait
for each other. If anyone is hungry, he should eat at home, so that when
you meet together it may not result in judgment.

The command doesn't frown upon things like church banquets, men's'
breakfasts, ladies' luncheons, and/or potlucks per se. What it's criticizing is a
lack of congregational unity. Here's some comments leading up to that
verse.

1Cor 11:17-22 . . Now in giving these instructions I do not praise you,
since you come together not for the better but for the worse. For first of all,
when you come together as a church, I hear that there are divisions among
you, and in part I believe it. For there must also be factions among you, that
those who are approved may be recognized among you.

. . .Therefore when you come together in one place, it is not to eat The
Lord's Supper. For in eating, each one takes his own supper ahead of others;
and one is hungry and another is drunk. What! Do you not have houses to
eat and drink in? Or do you despise the church of God and shame those who
have nothing? What shall I say to you? Shall I praise you in this? I do not
praise you.

Their lack of courtesy and unity during church functions was nothing short of
hypocrisy seeing as how The Lord's supper speaks of sacrifice rather than
selfishness, elitism, and hoarding. In other words; seeing as how Christians
all share in Christ's blood equally-- and deserve Hell equally --then everyone
should be given equal treatment at church regardless of age, gender, skin
color, intelligence, income level, nationality, what side of the tracks they live
on, or social status.

None of Christ's body parts are untouchable as if Christianity is a caste
system; nor are any expendable. God forbid that there should be some sort
of value system in a gathering of people for whom Christ suffered and died
equally for each one. That just wouldn't be right: it would be an insult to the
principles underlying The Lord's supper.

Matt 26:27 . . Then he took the cup, gave thanks and offered it to them,
saying: Drink from it, all of you.

If Christians are all drinking from the same cup, then they should all be, at
the very least, eating the same food and not be overly concerned about
where they sit and/or who they sit next to and/or who they're seen with.
And they should also make double sure that everyone gets enough to eat
and that no one gets left out and nobody gets more than his fair share. And
they should all sit down together at the same time. I just hate it when
people don't wait for each other. Some get back to the table and start in
gulping, slurping, clattering, and clanking while others from their table are
still in line.

And they should also take into consideration the possibility that a number of
their congregation are in assistance programs like TANF and SNAP. In other
words; don't just bring enough food from home for yourself; but, if you're
able, bring enough for those among you who can't bring anything at all. And
for heaven's sake, don't bring a side dish of gourmet food along just for
yourself. Leave your special gourmet stuff at home. There's just no excuse
for flaunting your "sophistication" around church thus giving everyone the
impression that everyone else's tastes are below yours.
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110» 1Cor 12:24-27 . . God has combined the members of the body and has
given greater honor to the parts that lacked it, so that there should be no
schism in the body, but that its parts should have equal concern for each
other. If one part suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored,
every part rejoices with it. Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of
you is a part of it.

In the beginning, Man was made in the image and likeness of God, which is
a kinship with Divinity that makes all of us equals on the human plane. It's
likely because of this equality that the Golden Rule is so appropriate.

In other words: the Golden Rule gives your fellow man the respect and
dignity that the image and likeness of God deserves. I believe the very same
principle applies to fellow members of the body of Christ.
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111» 1Cor 14:1a . . Pursue charity

The Greek noun for "charity" in that command is agape (ag-ah'-pay) which,
in most cases, is a very easy kind of love to practice. Though agape may, or
may not, include the sentiments of fondness and/or affection like the Greek
word phileo (fil-eh'-o), it always exemplifies benevolence; defined by
Webster's as the disposition to do good, i.e. kindness, consideration,
generosity, courtesy, lenience, tolerance, patience, sympathy, assistance,
civility, friendliness, etc.

Agape love does no harm to its neighbor. (Rom 13:10)

In a nutshell, agape love allows us to be nice to people without particularly
liking them.
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The commandments that God spoke and wrote in stone are summed up in love

Love God and Love your neighbour.
But they can be expanded too.

Mat 5: 27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: 28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

The principles in the 10 commandments are what define sin.
 

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112» 1Cor 14:1b . . eagerly desire spiritual gifts, especially the gift of prophecy.

This particular prophecy genre is different than prognostication. This relates
to inspirational speakers.

1Cor 14:3 . . Everyone who prophesies speaks to men for their
strengthening, their encouragement, and their comfort.
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113» 1Cor 14:13 . . anyone who speaks in a tongue should pray that he
may interpret what he says.

If Acts 2:1-12 is the model; then a genuine Spirit-endowed tongue should
be an honest to gosh real-life working language instead of incoherent
blabber that's intelligible to no one, not even the speaker.

Mozart composed some amazing music; but had he not arranged the
components sensibly, it would likely grate on people's nerves instead of
entertaining them; sort of like when an orchestra verifies the pitch of its
instruments just prior to a performance. The discordant din that the
orchestra makes is a cacophony instead of a rhapsody.

1Cor 14:7 . . Even in the case of lifeless things that make sounds, such as
the flute or harp, how will anyone know what tune is being played unless
there is a distinction in the notes?

Modern tonguers typically don't compose anything pleasant to the ear. At
least if they would chirp like birds their speech would be a discernible song
instead of an unintelligible squawk.

I was informed by a Charismatic friend that he prayed in a tongue because
he couldn't express his deepest feelings any other way. Mind you this was an
American adult of almost fifty years old; educated in America and spoke,
wrote, and read English-- his native language his entire life. So I asked him
how it is that his command of the English was so poor that he could only
express his thoughts in a language that not even he himself could either
identify or understand?

1Cor 14:13-15 . . If I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my mind is
unfruitful. So what shall I do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will also pray
with my mind; I will sing with my spirit, but I will also sing with my mind.

In other words: there are Christians out and about blabbering incoherently
because they choose to, rather than because they have to. With just a
simple act of their own will they could easily switch to something composed
with real words.

Why on earth would a grown-up prefer incoherent blabbering? Isn't that the
way small children communicate? Well, I can excuse small children because
they're uneducated. But shouldn't supposed educated adults be just a bit
more mature with their language and grammar than small children?

The true gift of tongues is very handy for communicating with foreigners.
But in our day and age, Charismatics typically don't communicate with
anybody, either foreign or domestic . As a result, Charismatics are looked
upon with the same disdain as the kooks that hurl themselves on the floor,
faint, scream, writhe, shout, and dance with rattlesnakes.

Well; not too many sensible people care to accommodate kooks, so if you're
serious about influencing people for Christ, I highly recommend sticking to
an intelligible language. Here in my country, English is a good choice
because most people can understand it without requiring the services of a
translator.

And for heaven's sake, please do not allow yourself to be drawn to
participating in a tongues meeting.

1Cor 14:23 . . So if the whole church comes together and everyone speaks
in tongues, and some who do not understand, or some unbelievers come in,
will they not say that you are out of your mind?
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What are His commandments...?

Mat 19:17-19
17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Jas 2:8-12
8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: 9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. 10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
 

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All commandments containing mercy and Love are advisable to be valid always. Forever!
 
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Matthew 22:36-40
Master, which is the great commandment in the law?

Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
This is the first and great commandment.
And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
 

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114» 1Cor 14:22a . .Tongues are for a sign

The sign isn't intended for the benefit of believers, but rather, for non
believers.

1Cor 14:22b . . Not to them that believe, but to them that believe not.

The purpose of any tongue is communication.

1Cor 14:9 . . Unless you speak intelligible words with your tongue, how
will anyone know what you are saying? You will just be speaking into the air.

So if a tonguer is speaking a language nobody understands, they've actually
created a barrier to communication; viz: a regression to the tower of Babel;
and you can see for yourself how destructive that was to unity (Gen 11:1-9).
Webster's defines "regression" as: movement backward to a previous, and
especially worse or more primitive state or condition; viz: backwards
thinking.

Since tongues are for the benefit of unbelievers, then it's de facto that a
tongue should be a valid language that the unbeliever himself speaks and
understands (cf. Acts 2:4-11). Somebody who exercises a tongue for any
other reason has missed the point; and they're behaving like a little kid with
a toy.

1Cor 14:20 . . Brothers, stop thinking like children. In regard to evil be
infants, but in your thinking be adults.
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115» 1Cor 14:27-28 . . If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by
two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. But
if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him
speak to himself, and to God.

Tonguers (folks with the actual gift) are not permitted to speak all at the
same time like a mob of howling political protesters. One of the reasons why
I get so annoyed by talk shows like ABC's The View is because everyone
talks all at once like a bunch of undisciplined dogs barking and yapping in a
kennel. And the way they interrupt each other back and forth before the
other can even finish a sentence is one of the very things we teach children
not to do. You'd think those supposedly mature adults grew up without
supervision the way they conduct themselves in a conversation.

NO! tonguers (folks with the actual gift) are to take turns; speaking one at a
time, rather than an entire congregation of tonguers barking and yapping
like dogs in a kennel whenever they "feel the Spirit" moving them. And if
there's no one to interpret, tonguers are not permitted to speak at all. If
Christians the world over followed those rules, it would put the charismatics
out of business right quick.

FYI: These directives regulating the exercise of tongues in a church meeting
were written by the apostle Paul-- a duly authorized agent speaking on
behalf of Christianity's Christ.

1Cor 14:37 . . If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let
him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the
commandments of the Lord.

Therefore, when Christians proceed to defy the rules regulating the exercise
of tongues, they are in shameful rebellion against the very lord and master
of Christianity; and yet, ironically, many tongue violators still have the
chutzpah to pass themselves off as the Lord's Spirit-filled followers.
However; a follower can be defined as someone who gets in step and/or falls
in line rather than going off-reservation to do their own thing.

1Sam 15:23 . . Rebellion is as the sin of divination; and insubordination is
as iniquity and idolatry.

1John 1:6 . . If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in
darkness, we lie, and do not the truth
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