No wonder why you are saying this.
Before you this was already said by the Jews to Jesus when Jesus sharing the truth.
JOHN 10:20
20 And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him?
What does Jesus mean about mansions?
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Before you this was already said by the Jews to Jesus when Jesus sharing the truth.
JOHN 10:20
20 And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him?
Personally I don't know the meaning.
If I will explain it using my own understanding, I become a thief in the eyes of God.
Because it is only God who explain his words and no one else.
This is the spiritual meaning of Thou shall not steal.
2 CORINTHIANS 5:13
13 For whether we be beside ourselves, it is to God: or whether we be sober, it is for your cause.
These statements are inconsistent with asking people the question, "What does Jesus mean about mansions?"
Are you looking for insight, or are you enticing people to be thieves in the sight of God?
Are you ai, or human?
You keep accusing others wildly by misapplying verses, and acting like that VERY THING YOU QUOTE is beyond your deity.
You got all those " you are false, you are defective" verse accusatory applications down pat.
Now go to a mirror and point your crooked accusing finger at yourself.
Try and take that beam outta your eye first.
There are some haughty people in here but you got all of em beat.
Pssst...the ministry of accusation is Satan.
....but you seem so adapted to it, you are even blinded to that truth also.
I'm not accusing anyone.
I'm sharing the truth.
According to Lord Jesus the truth is hurtful.
HEBREWS 4:12
12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Those blind people are those who are teaching the words of God but can't identify who God the Father is. That is the ministry which is not from God.
JOHN 8:54-55
54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:
55 Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.
This is the reason why Jesus called them blind.
JOHN 9:40-41
40 And some of the Pharisees which were with him heard these words, and said unto him, Are we blind also?
41 Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.
Read the entire Matthew chapter 23.
Is that an accusation of Jesus to the Scribes & Pharisees (Preachers & Teachers by that time) or Jesus sharing the truth by rebuking them?
The Lord Jesus said;
JOHN 3:12
12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
For eartly things, we are familiar with speaker system.
The speaker could not make a sound for itself. The sound coming from the speaker is the voice of the one speaking in the microphone.
For heavenly things, God is using his chosen as a speaker and God is the one speaking in the microphone.
I ask this question, taking a chance that there is a speaker here.
If there is no speaker here, I'm sure the Lord Jesus will make his way to reveal the meaning of John 14:2
Are you ai, or human?
I wonder why you ask this question. Don't you know that AI is limited for knowledge in eartly things only?
But when it comes to heavenly things or when it comes to the truth, AI is nothing.
If in your eyes I'm an hypocrite, that is nothing to do with salvation.
The real hypocrites in the eyes of God are those teaching & preaching the words of God and can't identify who God the Father is.
These hypocrites are facing damnation if they don't humble themselves.
The words of Lord Jesus never pass away (Matt 24:35).
MATTHEW 23
13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
Your quotes are irrelevant to your accusation. Still you provide no evidence. Still you are a hypocrite.
"Jesus Christ has come in the flesh" can't be uttered in the same breath that's telling a lie.
"Jesus Christ has come in the flesh, and yes/no" will always end in 'yes' when I inquire by it if something that's said is true, and 'no' if something that's said is false. (Without trying to force any answer)
You are looking for someone who speaks on behalf of God? I think you are looking for the wrong thing.
5 If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all liberally and without reproach, and it will be given to him. 6 But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind. 7 For let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord; 8 he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways. (Jas 1:5–8)
If, for instance, you lack wisdom on a Bible verse, then ask God to give you wisdom about it. He gives wisdom directly to everyone liberally and without criticism, and since this is true, He will give you the wisdom you seek. But you must not have doubts about what He reveals to you, and instead you must trust what He says. If you have doubts, you will be more confused after asking God for help than you were before you asked. If you refuse to believe Him without doubting, you would be better off not going to Him for anything.
As for me, I am convinced that the true meaning of μονή ("mansions") in John 14:2 is as I said before:
In the NT μονή occurs only twice in John’s Gospel (14:2, 23). Probably intentionally, the two statements correspond. In 14:2 the heavenly dwellings which are the goal of salvation (the movement is from below upwards), and to which believers will go after their earthly separation from God, are called abiding places which are fully prepared for them in the Father’s house.3 The word seems to be deliberately chosen to express the fact that our earthly state is transitory and provisional compared with eternal and blessed being with God. On the other hand, 14:23 (the movement is from above downwards) depicts salvation after the departure of the Saviour as a permanent abiding of Christ and God in believers. God’s dwelling among His people is expressed cultically in the OT (Ex. 25:8; 29:45; Lv. 26:11) and is expected by promise in the last time (Ez. 37:26 f.; Zech. 2:11; Rev. 21:3, 22 f.). In spiritual form it has now come into the community’s present. Both passages have in view individual rather than universal and eschatological salvation. Salvation consists in union with God and Christ. This takes place through the immanence of God and of Christ in believers and through the taking of believers home to Christ and to God. The permanence, indestructibility and continuation of this union is expressed by μονή (→ μένειν). In Johannine fashion there is no theological adjustment of the two metaphors of faith (cf. 1 Jn. 1:8 and 9f.).
[Hauck, F. (1964–). μένω, ἐμ-, παρα-, περι-, προσμένω, μονή, ὑπομένω, ὑπομονή. In G. Kittel, G. W. Bromiley, & G. Friedrich (Eds.), Theological dictionary of the New Testament (electronic ed., Vol. 4, p. 580). Eerdmans.]
When I ask God for wisdom about this verse, He gives me a great deal of peace with this understanding, especially the parts I have highlighted. Is this exerpt from the Theological dictionary of the New Testament easy enough to understand (sometimes it gets too technical for me)? I can post an abbridged version if simpler language is needed.
The evidence is you can't even mention who God the Father is.
You can't even identify who is the One True God that sitting in 1 throne.
That is the clear evidence and that is the truth.
REVELATION 4:2
2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.
But the Chosen of God even in our generation today can identify who he is.
This is were you failed the test
1 JOHN 4:2-3
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3& And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
The truth is.
Whoever can't identify who God the Father is.
Then he can't recognize who Jesus who come in the flesh.
Everybody can say Jesus is Lord. But it doesn't mean you pass the test.
You still can't mention the One True God sitting in a Throne in Rev 4:2.
Look at Apostle John because he is a chosen of God, he knows who is sitting in a throne.
This is a basis. Even the chosen of God in our generation today. They know who is sitting in a throne. Means they passed the test.
I am not interested in trying to pass your ridiculous and unbiblical test. You made the accusation; you provide the supporting evidence.
On the bright side, we need toilet paper.OP: "What does Jesus mean about mansions?"
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OP: "How about we extend this thread to 7 pages...?"
