What, in the name of Goodness, is the Illuminati?

[jaybird88]

It's about debt....kinda weird I know but if the people are indebted to you guess what?

i agree, and debt is not always about money. sometiems you lose more than money, car, land, home etc. the whole system is designed to keep you in debt. they have some good presentations on utube on the fed, banking, economics. how they really work. they should have warnings on the videos cause when you learn the truth it makes you want to run in the back yard and bury your head in the sand.

 

[Sirk]

i agree, and debt is not always about money. sometiems you lose more than money, car, land, home etc. the whole system is designed to keep you in debt. they have some good presentations on utube on the fed, banking, economics. how they really work. they should have warnings on the videos cause when you learn the truth it makes you want to run in the back yard and bury your head in the sand.

This is pretty entertaining for the history of money if nothing else.

Hidden Secrets Of Money - Free Video Series on Money Secrets

 

[Elijah19]

Moral secular humanists have been the roots of a lot of "corrupt bankers, corrupt politicians, fraudsters and shysters" to be honest, although one could just as easily say the same thing about the other side of the coin (religious fanatics and legalists), and I will openly admit that because I know my history books.

 

[Brainfreeze]

I pray God opens your eyes for those who are unaware what we're up against...
and study history with the Bible, and you will find truth..

Author John Rizzo has recently published a book titled, Company Man: Thirty Years of Controversy and Crisis in the CIA, which is an amazing admission of this scandalous affair between intelligence and the film industry. The L.A. Times comments:

The propaganda used by the Nazi Party in the years leading up to and during Adolf Hitler's leadership of Germany (1933–1945) was a crucial instrument for acquiring and maintaining power, and for the implementation of Nazi policies, including the pursuit of total war and the extermination of millions of people in the Holocaust. The pervasive use of propaganda by the Nazis is largely responsible for the word "propaganda" itself acquiring its present negative connotations.[1]



From d. rockefeller's memoirs " very powerful banker "

Some even believe we [Rockefeller family] are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - One World, if you will.If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it |

We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a World Government.The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries



From albert pike's book " highest ranking mason "


Lucifer, the Light Bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual or selfish Souls?

Doubt it not!"


So if some think these people aren't dead serious, trust me when I say they don't feel the same way, they would give their first born that this stuff comes to pass the way lucifer wants, they donate their time, influence, power, and money destroying the souls of the people through out the world.

 

[jaybird88]

From albert pike's book " highest ranking mason "


Lucifer, the Light Bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual or selfish Souls?

Doubt it not!"


So if some think these people aren't dead serious, trust me when I say they don't feel the same way, they would give their first born that this stuff comes to pass the way lucifer wants, they donate their time, influence, power, and money destroying the souls of the people through out the world.

Mr Pike is still a well known respected name here in my home state of Arkansas. if they only knew what he was really all about

 

[Nautilus]

On the plus side threads like this congregate all the crazies in one easy to find location.

 

[Brainfreeze]

On the plus side threads like this congregate all the crazies in one easy to find location.

So now we're crazy for stating facts and walking with Christ....

?

 

[Nautilus]

I didn't know propagating conspiracies like the illuminati was part of being a christian

 

[Brainfreeze]

I didn't know propagating conspiracies like the illuminati was part of being a christian

. 11Do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them; 12for it is disgraceful even to speak of the things which are done by them in secret.…



​now you know...

 

[Nautilus]

Now they just need to be more than some shadowy real-life version of Hydra for me to take you seriously.

 

[Sirk]

Now they just need to be more than some shadowy real-life version of Hydra for me to take you seriously.

i think the truth is often found dead center between the two extremes.

 

[Hungry]

In much wisdom there is much grief, and increasing knowledge results in increasing sorrow. (Ecclesiastes 1:18)

In many regards I desire to be as oblivious as most people. It would be preferred that I spend my days with an ignorant optimism that there wasn't a spiritual enemy to man. Perhaps that the economy will bounce back like it always does. I would like that maniacal sociopaths were just fictional but if they did exist they wouldn't have any bearing on our existence. To my misfortune and my joy I know the truth. I know that evil men, women and entities have bowed down to serve Lucifer. It has been a plan in effect for thousands of years, manipulating bloodlines, financial institutions, governments, religious organizations and society itself. It has not only been proved that these conspiracies exist, but they openly brag about their plans for world dominance and depopulation. All I have researched has only validated completely the Scriptures, giving me full confidence that what they tell is coming true and there is a Savior returning. Before this happens however much suffering will take place. If you wake up and see that all is being set up like men on a chess board preparing for the inevitable "mate" then you can at least make some preparations now that might minimize the suffering. Choosing not to play is not an option. Christians will be hunted down, handed over and tortured. People will fight/kill for food, turn to cannibalism and become barbaric. You can think this wrong if you want. Do some research yourself. Remember Christ said in Matt 24:21, "For then there will be great tribulation, such has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be."

 

[Sirk]

i think the truth is often found dead center between the two extremes.

For example. There are people that believe that there is an alien influenced group of rich people that are conspiring to turn us all into a food source. Lol. Then at the other end people say that suggesting there are a group of powerful influencal people who are steering the world toward tyranny is preposterous.

I would say that the world heading towards tyranny and chaos is the natural result of men's fallen state and satans influence on the aforementioned fallen state and is in reality....a forgone conclusion.

 

[Brainfreeze]

In much wisdom there is much grief, and increasing knowledge results in increasing sorrow. (Ecclesiastes 1:18)

In many regards I desire to be as oblivious as most people. It would be preferred that I spend my days with an ignorant optimism that there wasn't a spiritual enemy to man. Perhaps that the economy will bounce back like it always does. I would like that maniacal sociopaths were just fictional but if they did exist they wouldn't have any bearing on our existence. To my misfortune and my joy I know the truth. I know that evil men, women and entities have bowed down to serve Lucifer. It has been a plan in effect for thousands of years, manipulating bloodlines, financial institutions, governments, religious organizations and society itself. It has not only been proved that these conspiracies exist, but they openly brag about their plans for world dominance and depopulation. All I have researched has only validated completely the Scriptures, giving me full confidence that what they tell is coming true and there is a Savior returning. Before this happens however much suffering will take place. If you wake up and see that all is being set up like men on a chess board preparing for the inevitable "mate" then you can at least make some preparations now that might minimize the suffering. Choosing not to play is not an option. Christians will be hunted down, handed over and tortured. People will fight/kill for food, turn to cannibalism and become barbaric. You can think this wrong if you want. Do some research yourself. Remember Christ said in Matt 24:21, "For then there will be great tribulation, such has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be."

Good post...

ignorance seems as bliss for sure, it's either truth and sorrow with joy in Christ... or it's la la land ....
I always wanted truth, I had a false sense on what it was to " be real ", God blessed me with real truth and open eyes which I'm forever grateful for..

God bless

 

[Brainfreeze]

For example. There are people that believe that there is an alien influenced group of rich people that are conspiring to turn us all into a food source. Lol. Then at the other end people say that suggesting there are a group of powerful influencal people who are steering the world toward tyranny is preposterous.

I would say that the world heading towards tyranny and chaos is the natural result of men's fallen state and satans influence on the aforementioned fallen state and is in reality....a forgone conclusion.

There are little people who still believe in santa that drops gifts through chimneys or tooth fairies that pick up teeth for cash, what bearing does that have on the facts that are being stated and I don't want an " example " yes, you said a bit of truth here though, yes lucifer is involved with man.... Most are oblivious to this, but powerful people are either conscience to lucifer and doing his work or un-conscience " which lucifer rather's " and still doing work for lucifer...

 

[Yeraza_Bats]

When I think of Illuminati, I dont always think of a cult of devil worshippers who rule the world. I often imagine a small group of the worlds most powerful, wealthy, and influential and most feared men gathering together to talk about how they can use their power to guide the world. I believe that these people generally consider themselves higher than all of men, and therefore do not even consider the truth given to us by God, as thats the lower mans thing, and believe that there is some secret knowledge that they would be given by whatever higher being they may believe (could be different for each one) who has chosen them to lead the world, their proof being they are given a place of great power on our earth. And I believe when they get together and talk about what they can do, they have demons standing right next to them putting thoughts into their heads, letting them believe its their own thoughts, and pushing feelings of pride on them comforting them to believe they are great and wise beings. They come up with plans to do works for satan, like the coming rfid chip that one day will be law. They probly have no idea this is happening to them, just like when we have sinned, we had no idea of the being standing next to you comforting you into doing it. Thats generally what I think of when I think of the word "Illuminati". I think if you are Christian, youd be crazy to call this crazy.

 

[Sirk]

There are little people who still believe in santa that drops gifts through chimneys or tooth fairies that pick up teeth for cash, what bearing does that have on the facts that are being stated and I don't want an " example " yes, you said a bit of truth here though, yes lucifer is involved with man.... Most are oblivious to this, but powerful people are either conscience to lucifer and doing his work or un-conscience " which lucifer rather's " and still doing work for lucifer...

As far as I know the greatest lie satan has told and people have believed is that he doesn't exist. Endless extra biblical speculation is cool if you like that kind of fiction I guess. I got no problem with people who like Harry potter but people who think he's real frighten me a little.

 

[Sirk]

As far as I know the greatest lie satan has told and people have believed is that he doesn't exist. Endless extra biblical speculation is cool if you like that kind of fiction I guess. I got no problem with people who like Harry potter but people who think he's real frighten me a little.

besides...even if it is true what are you gonna do about by wringing your hands. I guess the older I get the more I'd rather practice spending eternity with Jesus than supporting the fear porn industry.

 

[Yeraza_Bats]

Does Sirk believe that satan is working with the powers of the earth in an attempt to mislead man?

I mean we have went from a world where Elvis shaking his hips was too much to Lady Gaga making out with another woman naked on tv, while the world tells you its totally okay and that you are cruel to even think it could be wrong. Kesha has admitted that she did not want to sing her song praising dying young and enjoying your life, and said that she was told she had to. Satan uses everything on this earth against you all to lead you into sin. Thats generally what people mean with Illuminati.

I dunno if it really /is/ a group of occult people. But I do know that satan is in fact working against us through the worlds most powerful people. I actually appreciate the people online who make these connections, cause whether or not its really a group of people in on it, it is in fact the devil, and it is good to be vigilant against his deceptions.

 

[Sirk]

Does Sirk believe that satan is working with the powers of the earth in an attempt to mislead man?

I mean we have went from a world where Elvis shaking his hips was too much to Lady Gaga making out with another woman naked on tv, while the world tells you its totally okay and that you are cruel to even think it could be wrong. Kesha has admitted that she did not want to sing her song praising dying young and enjoying your life, and said that she was told she had to. Satan uses everything on this earth against you all to lead you into sin. Thats generally what people mean with Illuminati.

I dunno if it really /is/ a group of occult people. But I do know that satan is in fact working against us through the worlds most powerful people. I actually appreciate the people online who make these connections, cause whether or not its really a group of people in on it, it is in fact the devil, and it is good to be vigilant against his deceptions.

I do. And truthfully, I used to be pretty interested in conspiracy type things. I think there is some truth in just about everything. I mean look at how many things we use today that were dreamed up in Star Trek. The statement, truth is stranger than fiction, is in fact a truth. I think when Jesus comes back it will be mind blowing situation and that is where I choose to put my focus. No weapon formed against me will prevail. I have enough things that cause anxiety in my life...I'm trying to not worry about things that are beyond my ability to control.