What should our views be on LGBT
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John 1:5-7 English Standard Version (ESV)
Walking in the Light
5 This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 6 If we say we have fellowship with him while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth.7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin.
yes if we walk in the light and not darkness, we have fellowship with one another and follow him he is faithful and cleanses us.
if we walk in darkness then we cant walk with God.
he even plucks out names out of the book of life.
many will say lord lord have I not....
but he will say leave me partakers of unrighteousness I never knew u
Walking in the Light
5 This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 6 If we say we have fellowship with him while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth.7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin.
yes if we walk in the light and not darkness, we have fellowship with one another and follow him he is faithful and cleanses us.
if we walk in darkness then we cant walk with God.
he even plucks out names out of the book of life.
many will say lord lord have I not....
but he will say leave me partakers of unrighteousness I never knew u
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Sorry, I do not mean to offend you.
The point I am unsuccessfully trying to get you to see is that you and me and everyone actually live in some form of darkness. John is saying the same as I. It is impossible for anyone to stop sinning. While you can point a finger at the LGBT person and say they willfully sin. Jesus could point his finger at YOU and say that YOU willfully sin. Not one person on earth is perfect. Jesus points this out in the Beatitudes.
The point I am unsuccessfully trying to get you to see is that you and me and everyone actually live in some form of darkness. John is saying the same as I. It is impossible for anyone to stop sinning. While you can point a finger at the LGBT person and say they willfully sin. Jesus could point his finger at YOU and say that YOU willfully sin. Not one person on earth is perfect. Jesus points this out in the Beatitudes.
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Yes, and in your mind the things people shouldn’t do happen to be the things you don’t do. In Jesus mind You do things on His list of bad things and justify it being done. Jesus sees you doing the same thing you accuse others of doing. Yet, he still forgives you and asks you to do the same to others. By proof texting John you can’t see the point being made.
I say love and pray for them. Your views are closer to OT law.
NT has a different take:
Corinthians is written to believers: see 1 Cor 1:2.
1 Cor 6:
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
NOTE: In verse 9 Paul mentions fornicators. Verse 11 Paul say's: And such were some of you. BUT you have been washed, sanctified, justified.
They have been FORGIVEN!
NT has a different take:
Corinthians is written to believers: see 1 Cor 1:2.
1 Cor 6:
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
NOTE: In verse 9 Paul mentions fornicators. Verse 11 Paul say's: And such were some of you. BUT you have been washed, sanctified, justified.
They have been FORGIVEN!
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No,you're totally wrong and I don't see how you could say such a thing to a Christian young person. Jesus does not see her as the same. Her sin is under the blood. As long as she continues her walk with Him. A person that is a practicing homosexual is lost in perversion. It is not the same in the least.
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I apologize.
Having stumbled onto this thread and seeing some theological red flags I took it on myself to make this a teaching moment. I now see there are other issues that need to be resolved and I am just muddying the water.
Please excuse my intervention into this tread. I pray that the young lady finds peace in this matter.
Having stumbled onto this thread and seeing some theological red flags I took it on myself to make this a teaching moment. I now see there are other issues that need to be resolved and I am just muddying the water.
Please excuse my intervention into this tread. I pray that the young lady finds peace in this matter.
K
Nothing wrong with a teaching moment. But you need to be certain of what you are saying. No Christian is perfectly without sin,but their sin is under the blood. The situation the OP is talking about,unless I'm wrong, is a practicing homosexual who is in the world and lost. So you cannot compare the two. Homosexuality is perversion and taken very seriously in the Bible,it is a sin against ones own body.
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If you call it an attack that is your idea. Did he or did he not say perverted things? Yes, he did. maybe you don't think of it as an inappropriate to mention female anatomy in such a way. Most trolls to that. So if he is a new believer, then help your friend by telling him the truth and a real friend should.
I am not a supporter of Hillary Clinton LOL and I am no snowflake. And I too know trolls very well. your comments as such
"Thus, my advice is that when crap happens make fertilizer."
WE shall see. I am not upset nor angry
I have said thing very Biblically and called you out on the context of your unbiblical responses. Homosexuality is not a demon, it is an act of sin. If it a demon then those who do such are not to blame the demon is. You may not know it but must of what you have said in context to homosexuality is secular humanism. I just looked at your post from the very first one. You are new as a believer Ok I will impart grace to you on that.
"Thus, my advice is that when crap happens make fertilizer."
WE shall see. I am not upset nor angry
I have said thing very Biblically and called you out on the context of your unbiblical responses. Homosexuality is not a demon, it is an act of sin. If it a demon then those who do such are not to blame the demon is. You may not know it but must of what you have said in context to homosexuality is secular humanism. I just looked at your post from the very first one. You are new as a believer Ok I will impart grace to you on that.-
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I am not a supporter of Hillary Clinton LOL and I am no snowflake. And I too know trolls very well. your comments as such
"Thus, my advice is that when crap happens make fertilizer."
WE shall see. I am not upset nor angry I have said thing very Biblically and called you out on the context of your unbiblical responses. Homosexuality is not a demon, it is an act of sin. If it a demon then those who do such are not to blame the demon is. You may not know it but must of what you have said in context to homosexuality is secular humanism. I just looked at your post from the very first one. You are new as a believer Ok I will impart grace to you on that.
"Thus, my advice is that when crap happens make fertilizer."
WE shall see. I am not upset nor angry
I have said thing very Biblically and called you out on the context of your unbiblical responses. Homosexuality is not a demon, it is an act of sin. If it a demon then those who do such are not to blame the demon is. You may not know it but must of what you have said in context to homosexuality is secular humanism. I just looked at your post from the very first one. You are new as a believer Ok I will impart grace to you on that.
Too many ppl get once and for all delivered of the demon who is the cause. Not always the root but the cause.
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