What was Jesus purpose during His 33 years of life.

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kaylagrl

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Son, if you have any questions pertaining to the bible, don't be afraid to ask

Kaylagrl says "son" to you? I asked you a question, you didn't answer. So assuming you've read the Bible, why don't you know that Jesus first followers were Jews??
 

Nehemiah6

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2. Minister only to Israel and to confirm the promises made to the fathers.
This is a HUGE MISCONCEPTION. The first believers and worshippers of Christ were Gentile magi who went to Bethlehem with precious gifts for the King of the Jews.

The first converts of Christ were semi-Gentile Samaritans (John 4). And there are many instances where Christ ministered to Gentiles and MARVELLED at the faith of Gentiles in comparison to Jews.

Furthermore, only a very small fraction of the teachings of Christ are addressed STRICTLY to Jews and in connection with the Law of Moses. Indeed the Gospel of John is clearly for all mankind, while the enmity of the unbelieving Jews is exposed. So while Jesus was indeed the King/Messiah of Israel, He was at one and the same time THE SAVIOR OF THE WORLD.

Even so (1) he sent the 70 and the 12 only to Israel, and (2) He commanded that after Pentecost the Gospel must go in the following progression: (a) Jerusalem, (b) Judea, (c) Samaria, and (d) the uttermost parts of the earth.

Christians should also be very aware that while Peter was primarily the apostle to the Jews (the Circumcision) he preached the Gospel to Gentiles and Semi-Gentiles, and while Paul was primarily the apostle to the Gentiles (the Uncircumcision), he made it his business to FIRST go to every Jewish synagogue in each city which he visited, and only then preach to the Gentiles.

Getting back to the primary reason why Christ came to earth, Paul says that "This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world TO SAVE SINNERS..."
 

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This is a HUGE MISCONCEPTION. The first believers and worshippers of Christ were Gentile magi who went to Bethlehem with precious gifts for the King of the Jews.

The first converts of Christ were semi-Gentile Samaritans (John 4). And there are many instances where Christ ministered to Gentiles and MARVELLED at the faith of Gentiles in comparison to Jews.

Furthermore, only a very small fraction of the teachings of Christ are addressed STRICTLY to Jews and in connection with the Law of Moses. Indeed the Gospel of John is clearly for all mankind, while the enmity of the unbelieving Jews is exposed. So while Jesus was indeed the King/Messiah of Israel, He was at one and the same time THE SAVIOR OF THE WORLD.

Even so (1) he sent the 70 and the 12 only to Israel, and (2) He commanded that after Pentecost the Gospel must go in the following progression: (a) Jerusalem, (b) Judea, (c) Samaria, and (d) the uttermost parts of the earth.

Christians should also be very aware that while Peter was primarily the apostle to the Jews (the Circumcision) he preached the Gospel to Gentiles and Semi-Gentiles, and while Paul was primarily the apostle to the Gentiles (the Uncircumcision), he made it his business to FIRST go to every Jewish synagogue in each city which he visited, and only then preach to the Gentiles.

Getting back to the primary reason why Christ came to earth, Paul says that "This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world TO SAVE SINNERS..."
Are you saying these passages not Valid:

Matthew 10:5-6 (KJV
5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Matthew 15:24 NKJ
But he answered and said, I am not sent but only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Romans 15:8 King James Version (KJV)
8 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:

.....Jesus went out to preach the Gospel of the Kingdom.

.....Show me scriptures where Jesus went out seeking gentiles to teach them this Gospel.
 

Nehemiah6

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....Show me scriptures where Jesus went out seeking gentiles to teach them this Gospel.
JOHN 4: JESUS SEEKS OUT GENTILES AND SAVES THEM
1 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John,
2 (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)
3 He left Judaea, and departed again into Galilee.
4 And he must needs go through Samaria.
5 Then cometh he to a city of Samaria, which is called Sychar, near to the parcel of ground that Jacob gave to his son Joseph.
6 Now Jacob's well was there. Jesus therefore, being wearied with hisjourney, sat thus on the well: and it was about the sixth hour.
7 There cometh a woman of Samaria to draw water: Jesus saith unto her, Give me to drink.
8 (For his disciples were gone away unto the city to buy meat.)
9 Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans.
10 Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.
11 The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water?
12 Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle?
13 Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again:
14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.
15 The woman saith unto him, Sir, give me this water, that I thirst not, neither come hither to draw.
16 Jesus saith unto her, Go, call thy husband, and come hither.
17 The woman answered and said, I have no husband. Jesus said unto her, Thou hast well said, I have no husband:
18 For thou hast had five husbands; and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband: in that saidst thou truly.
19 The woman saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet.
20Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.
21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
25The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.
26 Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.
27 And upon this came his disciples, and marvelled that he talked with the woman: yet no man said, What seekest thou? or, Why talkest thou with her?
28 The woman then left her waterpot, and went her way into the city, and saith to the men,
29 Come, see a man, which told me all things that ever I did: is not this the Christ?
30 Then they went out of the city, and came unto him.
31 In the mean while his disciples prayed him, saying, Master, eat.
32 But he said unto them, I have meat to eat that ye know not of.
33 Therefore said the disciples one to another, Hath any man brought himought to eat?
34 Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.
35 Say not ye, There are yet four months, and then cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest.
36 And he that reapeth receiveth wages, and gathereth fruit unto life eternal: that both he that soweth and he that reapeth may rejoice together.
37 And herein is that saying true, One soweth, and another reapeth.
38 I sent you to reap that whereon ye bestowed no labour: other men laboured, and ye are entered into their labours.
39 And many of the Samaritans of that city believed on him for the saying of the woman, which testified, He told me all that ever I did.
40 So when the Samaritans were come unto him, they besought him that he would tarry with them: and he abode there two days.
41 And many more believed because of his own word;
42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.
43 Now after two days he departed thence, and went into Galilee.
[NOTE: THIS WAS AT THE BEGINNING OF CHRIST'S EARTHLY MINISTRY]

Dictionaries - Easton's Bible Dictionary - Samaritans
Samaritans = Gentiles intermarried with Jews
the name given to the new and mixed inhabitants whom Esarhaddon (B.C. 677), the king of Assyria, brought from Babylon and other places and settled in the cities of Samaria, instead of the original inhabitants whom Sargon (B.C. 721) had removed into captivity ( 2 Kings 17:24 ; Compare Ezra 4:2 Ezra 4:9 Ezra 4:10 ). These strangers (CompareLuke 17:18 ) amalgamated with the Jews still remaining in the land, and gradually abandoned their old idolatry and adopted partly the Jewish religion.
 

rhern

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JOHN 4: JESUS SEEKS OUT GENTILES AND SAVES THEM
1 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John,
2 (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)
3 He left Judaea, and departed again into Galilee.
4 And he must needs go through Samaria.
5 Then cometh he to a city of Samaria, which is called Sychar, near to the parcel of ground that Jacob gave to his son Joseph.
6 Now Jacob's well was there. Jesus therefore, being wearied with hisjourney, sat thus on the well: and it was about the sixth hour.
7 There cometh a woman of Samaria to draw water: Jesus saith unto her, Give me to drink.
8 (For his disciples were gone away unto the city to buy meat.)
9 Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans.
10 Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.
11 The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water?
12 Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle?
13 Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again:
14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.
15 The woman saith unto him, Sir, give me this water, that I thirst not, neither come hither to draw.
16 Jesus saith unto her, Go, call thy husband, and come hither.
17 The woman answered and said, I have no husband. Jesus said unto her, Thou hast well said, I have no husband:
18 For thou hast had five husbands; and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband: in that saidst thou truly.
19 The woman saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet.
20Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.
21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
25The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.
26 Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.
27 And upon this came his disciples, and marvelled that he talked with the woman: yet no man said, What seekest thou? or, Why talkest thou with her?
28 The woman then left her waterpot, and went her way into the city, and saith to the men,
29 Come, see a man, which told me all things that ever I did: is not this the Christ?
30 Then they went out of the city, and came unto him.
31 In the mean while his disciples prayed him, saying, Master, eat.
32 But he said unto them, I have meat to eat that ye know not of.
33 Therefore said the disciples one to another, Hath any man brought himought to eat?
34 Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.
35 Say not ye, There are yet four months, and then cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest.
36 And he that reapeth receiveth wages, and gathereth fruit unto life eternal: that both he that soweth and he that reapeth may rejoice together.
37 And herein is that saying true, One soweth, and another reapeth.
38 I sent you to reap that whereon ye bestowed no labour: other men laboured, and ye are entered into their labours.
39 And many of the Samaritans of that city believed on him for the saying of the woman, which testified, He told me all that ever I did.
40 So when the Samaritans were come unto him, they besought him that he would tarry with them: and he abode there two days.
41 And many more believed because of his own word;
42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.
43 Now after two days he departed thence, and went into Galilee.
[NOTE: THIS WAS AT THE BEGINNING OF CHRIST'S EARTHLY MINISTRY]

Dictionaries - Easton's Bible Dictionary - Samaritans
Samaritans = Gentiles intermarried with Jews
the name given to the new and mixed inhabitants whom Esarhaddon (B.C. 677), the king of Assyria, brought from Babylon and other places and settled in the cities of Samaria, instead of the original inhabitants whom Sargon (B.C. 721) had removed into captivity ( 2 Kings 17:24 ; Compare Ezra 4:2 Ezra 4:9 Ezra 4:10 ). These strangers (CompareLuke 17:18 ) amalgamated with the Jews still remaining in the land, and gradually abandoned their old idolatry and adopted partly the Jewish religion.
Do you not believed the Words of Jesus

Matthew 10:5-6 (KJV
5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
 

JaumeJ

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Zechariah 3


A Vision of Joshua the High Priest
Zec 3:1 And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him.
Zec 3:2 And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?
Zec 3:3 Now Joshua was clothed with filthy garments, and stood before the angel.
Zec 3:4 And he answered and spake unto those that stood before him, saying, Take away the filthy garments from him. And unto him he said, Behold, I have caused thine iniquity to pass from thee, and I will clothe thee with change of raiment.
Zec 3:5 And I said, Let them set a fair mitre upon his head. So they set a fair mitre upon his head, and clothed him with garments. And the angel of the LORD stood by.
Zec 3:6 And the angel of the LORD protested unto Joshua, saying,
Zec 3:7 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; If thou wilt walk in my ways, and if thou wilt keep my charge, then thou shalt also judge my house, and shalt also keep my courts, and I will give thee places to walk among these that stand by.
Zec 3:8 Hear now, O Joshua the high priest, thou, and thy fellows that sit before thee: for they are men wondered at: for, behold, I will bring forth my servant the BRANCH.
Zec 3:9 For behold the stone that I have laid before Joshua; upon one stone shall be seven eyes: behold, I will engrave the graving thereof, saith the LORD of hosts, and I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day.
Zec 3:10 In that day, saith the LORD of hosts, shall ye call every man his neighbour under the vine and under the fig tree.
This quote from the Word details our Savior and His Mission. Is not the Word of our Father good enough for this thread?
 
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So then, don't follow His example and don't obey Him then.

Tell me where that gets you!

And stop being a Christian, because you are not obeying 2 Corinthians!
You ever wondered why Paul never mentioned anything about Jesus's ministry before the cross?

No parables, no miracles, only mentioned the Lord's supper?

Why do you think he did not?
 
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This quote from the Word details our Savior and His Mission. Is not the Word of our Father good enough for this thread?
Fig tree was always the metaphor for Israel, so you got that right
 

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The Spirit of the LORD is upon Me, Because He has anointed Me To preach the gospel to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives And recovery of sight to the blind, To set at liberty those who are oppressed;

For I have come to ‘set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law’;

I came to send fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled!
 

rhern

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The Spirit of the LORD is upon Me, Because He has anointed Me To preach the gospel to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives And recovery of sight to the blind, To set at liberty those who are oppressed;

For I have come to ‘set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law’;

I came to send fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled!
Where can I find these passages?
 
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They are in the Bible, you know, the book we are discussing because we read it.
His point, which I think you are deliberately ignoring, is that Isaiah was directed to Israel only.

It does not mean us in the Body of Christ cannot learn from it.
 

JaumeJ

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It is important before posting to know why the post is posted to which you believe you are replying.
 

Prycejosh1987

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2. Minister only to Israel and to confirm the promises made to the fathers.
I agree with this, but he also did release followers that would carry his message around the world. They started in the neighbouring cities first.