What's the reasons why rich man had everything good, while lazarus everything bad?

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Luke 6:22

Blessed are you when people hate you, when they exclude you and insult you and reject your name as evil, because of the Son of Man.

Hebrews 11:38

of whom the world was not worthy. They wandered in deserts and mountains, in dens and caves of the earth.

What's the reason why the saints are alone most of the time? Is it to depend on God more?
 
Luke 6:22

Blessed are you when people hate you, when they exclude you and insult you and reject your name as evil, because of the Son of Man.

Hebrews 11:38​

of whom the world was not worthy. They wandered in deserts and mountains, in dens and caves of the earth.

What's the reason why the saints are alone most of the time? Is it to depend on God more?
The rich have a lot because they are selfish and greedy which is to exalt themselves for that is what they are about.

God allows this to happen or they would not be rich.

But being rich is a sin like all other sins God allows for now.

Which love is the fulfilling of the law but they do not care about the poor and needy.

Which the love of money is the root of all evil for it neglects the poor and needy.

Psa 73:2 But as for me, my feet were almost gone; my steps had well nigh slipped.
Psa 73:3 For I was envious at the foolish, when I saw the prosperity of the wicked.
Psa 73:5 They are not in trouble as other men; neither are they plagued like other men.
Psa 73:11 And they say, How doth God know? and is there knowledge in the most High?
Psa 73:12 Behold, these are the ungodly, who prosper in the world; they increase in riches.
Psa 73:13 Verily I have cleansed my heart in vain, and washed my hands in innocency.
Psa 73:14 For all the day long have I been plagued, and chastened every morning.
Psa 73:16 When I thought to know this, it was too painful for me;
Psa 73:17 Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end.
Psa 73:18 Surely thou didst set them in slippery places: thou castedst them down into destruction.
Psa 73:19 How are they brought into desolation, as in a moment! they are utterly consumed with terrors.

The rich do prosper greatly which some saints do not understand but they will only get from this earth and proceed no farther.

Mal 3:13 Your words have been stout against me, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, What have we spoken so much against thee?

Mal 3:14 Ye have said, It is vain to serve God: and what profit is it that we have kept his ordinance, and that we have walked mournfully before the LORD of hosts?

Mal 3:15 And now we call the proud happy; yea, they that work wickedness are set up; yea, they that tempt God are even delivered.

Mal 3:16 Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.

Mal 3:17 And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.

Mal 3:18 Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not.

Some Jews said it is vain to serve God for the wicked prosper looking at it from a wrong perspective.

But God said one day you will be able to tell who is blessed and not blessed for the saints will prosper and the wicked will not.

1Ti 6:8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.

Jas 4:3 Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.

2Co 6:10 As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.

Php 4:19 But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.

God only blesses us with needs not wants.

The saints do not get to be rich and live luxuriously.

Mat 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Mat 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

2Ti 3:10 But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,
2Ti 3:11 Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me.
2Ti 3:12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

Rom 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
Rom 8:36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
Rom 8:37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

The saints will suffer in this world because of people against Christianity, and against the belief in a God.

But they might also suffer because of the cruelty of the world in general.

Obviously God allows it to happen which can be a testimony to them when a saint does not retaliate back and does not deny their faith.

Heb 5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered.

2Co 12:7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.

Pro 3:12 For whom the LORD loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.

Heb 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
Heb 12:7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
Heb 12:8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

God allows suffering to cause obedience, humbleness, and to correct us.

It is not always a bed of roses concerning the flesh.

But spiritually it is peace, love, a sound mind, and joy.
 
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Luke 6:22

Blessed are you when people hate you, when they exclude you and insult you and reject your name as evil, because of the Son of Man.

Hebrews 11:38​

of whom the world was not worthy. They wandered in deserts and mountains, in dens and caves of the earth.

What's the reason why the saints are alone most of the time? Is it to depend on God more?
Scripture does not tell us why the rich man "had everything good", nor why Lazarus "had everything bad".
 
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The rich have a lot because they are selfish and greedy which is to exalt themselves for that is what they are about.

God allows this to happen or they would not be rich.

But being rich is a sin like all other sins God allows for now.

Which love is the fulfilling of the law but they do not care about the poor and needy.

Which the love of money is the root of all evil for it neglects the poor and needy.

Psa 73:2 But as for me, my feet were almost gone; my steps had well nigh slipped.
Psa 73:3 For I was envious at the foolish, when I saw the prosperity of the wicked.
Psa 73:5 They are not in trouble as other men; neither are they plagued like other men.
Psa 73:11 And they say, How doth God know? and is there knowledge in the most High?
Psa 73:12 Behold, these are the ungodly, who prosper in the world; they increase in riches.
Psa 73:13 Verily I have cleansed my heart in vain, and washed my hands in innocency.
Psa 73:14 For all the day long have I been plagued, and chastened every morning.
Psa 73:16 When I thought to know this, it was too painful for me;
Psa 73:17 Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end.
Psa 73:18 Surely thou didst set them in slippery places: thou castedst them down into destruction.
Psa 73:19 How are they brought into desolation, as in a moment! they are utterly consumed with terrors.

The rich do prosper greatly which some saints do not understand but they will only get from this earth and proceed no farther.

Mal 3:13 Your words have been stout against me, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, What have we spoken so much against thee?

Mal 3:14 Ye have said, It is vain to serve God: and what profit is it that we have kept his ordinance, and that we have walked mournfully before the LORD of hosts?

Mal 3:15 And now we call the proud happy; yea, they that work wickedness are set up; yea, they that tempt God are even delivered.

Mal 3:16 Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.

Mal 3:17 And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.

Mal 3:18 Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not.

Some Jews said it is vain to serve God for the wicked prosper looking at it from a wrong perspective.

But God said one day you will be able to tell who is blessed and not blessed for the saints will prosper and the wicked will not.

1Ti 6:8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.

Jas 4:3 Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.

2Co 6:10 As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.

Php 4:19 But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.

God only blesses us with needs not wants.

The saints do not get to be rich and live luxuriously.

Mat 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Mat 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

2Ti 3:10 But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,
2Ti 3:11 Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me.
2Ti 3:12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

Rom 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
Rom 8:36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
Rom 8:37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

The saints will suffer in this world because of people against Christianity, and against the belief in a God.

But they might also suffer because of the cruelty of the world in general.

Obviously God allows it to happen which can be a testimony to them when a saint does not retaliate back and does not deny their faith.

Heb 5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered.

2Co 12:7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.

Pro 3:12 For whom the LORD loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.

Heb 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
Heb 12:7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
Heb 12:8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

God allows suffering to cause obedience, humbleness, and to correct us.

It is not always a bed of roses concerning the flesh.

But spiritually it is peace, love, a sound mind, and joy.
We read of some godly Christians in the New Testament who were rich, people like Lydia, Joseph of Arimathea, and Philemon, for example. It is not being rich that is a sin, but what one does with one's riches. You quoted some verses from Psalm 73 as though they were about all rich people. They are not. They are about wicked people who are rich:

(Psa 73:3) For I was envious of the boastful, When I saw the prosperity of the wicked.

"The prosperity of the wicked," not "the wickedness of the prosperous," as though all rich people are wicked.
 
We can wish to be somewhere/someone God has not placed us.....and that is the sin of covetousness....

A simple look at lottery winners can tell you all you really need to know about having wealth.
It's not fun....

I'm exactly where I'm supposed to be, doing exactly what I'm supposed to be doing.
I work hard, I have real friends at church and in the family who like me for me and not my money.
Sure, at times I want things....I dont have every luxury.....I have to be patient, save, wait....just like everyone else.
I always want more.....no different from others....

But I still dont play the lottery for fear I might win.

They cant make you win if you refuse to play.
 
The rich have a lot because they are selfish and greedy which is to exalt themselves for that is what they are about.

God allows this to happen or they would not be rich.

But being rich is a sin like all other sins God allows for now.

Which love is the fulfilling of the law but they do not care about the poor and needy.

Which the love of money is the root of all evil for it neglects the poor and needy.

Psa 73:2 But as for me, my feet were almost gone; my steps had well nigh slipped.
Psa 73:3 For I was envious at the foolish, when I saw the prosperity of the wicked.
Psa 73:5 They are not in trouble as other men; neither are they plagued like other men.
Psa 73:11 And they say, How doth God know? and is there knowledge in the most High?
Psa 73:12 Behold, these are the ungodly, who prosper in the world; they increase in riches.
Psa 73:13 Verily I have cleansed my heart in vain, and washed my hands in innocency.
Psa 73:14 For all the day long have I been plagued, and chastened every morning.
Psa 73:16 When I thought to know this, it was too painful for me;
Psa 73:17 Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end.
Psa 73:18 Surely thou didst set them in slippery places: thou castedst them down into destruction.
Psa 73:19 How are they brought into desolation, as in a moment! they are utterly consumed with terrors.

The rich do prosper greatly which some saints do not understand but they will only get from this earth and proceed no farther.

Mal 3:13 Your words have been stout against me, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, What have we spoken so much against thee?

Mal 3:14 Ye have said, It is vain to serve God: and what profit is it that we have kept his ordinance, and that we have walked mournfully before the LORD of hosts?

Mal 3:15 And now we call the proud happy; yea, they that work wickedness are set up; yea, they that tempt God are even delivered.

Mal 3:16 Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.

Mal 3:17 And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.

Mal 3:18 Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not.

Some Jews said it is vain to serve God for the wicked prosper looking at it from a wrong perspective.

But God said one day you will be able to tell who is blessed and not blessed for the saints will prosper and the wicked will not.

1Ti 6:8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.

Jas 4:3 Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.

2Co 6:10 As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.

Php 4:19 But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.

God only blesses us with needs not wants.

The saints do not get to be rich and live luxuriously.

Mat 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Mat 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

2Ti 3:10 But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,
2Ti 3:11 Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me.
2Ti 3:12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

Rom 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
Rom 8:36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
Rom 8:37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

The saints will suffer in this world because of people against Christianity, and against the belief in a God.

But they might also suffer because of the cruelty of the world in general.

Obviously God allows it to happen which can be a testimony to them when a saint does not retaliate back and does not deny their faith.

Heb 5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered.

2Co 12:7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.

Pro 3:12 For whom the LORD loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.

Heb 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
Heb 12:7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
Heb 12:8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

God allows suffering to cause obedience, humbleness, and to correct us.

It is not always a bed of roses concerning the flesh.

But spiritually it is peace, love, a sound mind, and joy.

Good post except that lust for money and power is a sin.
Being rich because of industry is a blessing that should be shared.
The ministry of Jesus was supported by those who were relatively rich.
 
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Here is some info concerning the last days and the rich:

[Jas 5:1-6 KJV] 1 Go to now, [ye] rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon [you]. 2 Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten. 3 Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days. 4 Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth. 5 Ye have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton; ye have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter. 6 Ye have condemned [and] killed the just; [and] he doth not resist you.

According to Forbes, at present there are 3,428 billionaires in the world, 989 in the US.

Here is the other side of the coin:
Food (estimated):
Famine 770,000
Acute hunger 266 million
Chronic hunger 673 million

Income (less than $3.00 a day)
831 million (including 412 children)

More links:

[Rev 6:15 KJV] 15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

There is a day of reckoning on the horizon.
 
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