bingo!
a nation ought to be governed by God, not "the people" -- and the people here don't all happen to be Christian.
color me "not surprised"
When the Supreme Court Approved Gay Marriage, What ALL Happened to the USA?
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bingo!
a nation ought to be governed by God, not "the people" -- and the people here don't all happen to be Christian.
color me "not surprised"
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psychomom
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To me, the government allowed a legal contract they Called "marriage". It is just a word I don't give power to. A marriage is only the way God set it up to be - a covenant between man and woman.
The world is just setting itself for judgment - We are not told us to judge the world. We are told by Jesus to pray for harvesters to go out and harvest what is ready for the Kingdom. He even said He did not come to judge the world. That will come later.
I think this is a very distracting thing for all Christians at this time. We should be watching to see where Christ IS working, and join Him - continue our calling - and not neglect our gifts for each other - especially our time or true praise and worship.
Satan wins this battle only if it takes our eyes off of Christ.
The world is just setting itself for judgment - We are not told us to judge the world. We are told by Jesus to pray for harvesters to go out and harvest what is ready for the Kingdom. He even said He did not come to judge the world. That will come later.
I think this is a very distracting thing for all Christians at this time. We should be watching to see where Christ IS working, and join Him - continue our calling - and not neglect our gifts for each other - especially our time or true praise and worship.
Satan wins this battle only if it takes our eyes off of Christ.
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On November 19, 1863, at the Soldiers’ National Cemetery in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, President Abraham Lincoln, weak and lightheaded with an oncoming case of smallpox, made a speech that lasted for just over two minutes, and ended with his hope “that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.”
Those words have been quoted ever since as the supreme vindication of representative government. Indeed, they are often quoted as proof of American exceptionalism. But the words were not Lincoln’s. Most of his hearers would have recognized their source, as our generation typically does not. They came from the prologue to what was probably the earliest translation of the Bible into the English language: “This Bible is for the government of the people, for the people and by the people.”
Uh, we don't see a connection between our actions and the weather, our inability to combat terrorism, food prices rising and looming shortages, national calamities? I would challenge any and al to read Lev 26 and Deut 28 in the light of the fact that we are Manasseh and Israel's name is named on us (and our brother Ephraim, Great Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zealand).
NO, because a small minority FORCED IT'S WILL ON THE MAJORITY. If you think I over reacted, then you had better seriously read all of the following:
Romans 1:18-32 (NIV)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness,
[SUP]19 [/SUP] since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.
[SUP]20 [/SUP] For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
[SUP]21 [/SUP] For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.
[SUP]22 [/SUP] Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools
[SUP]23 [/SUP] and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.
[SUP]24 [/SUP] Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.
[SUP]25 [/SUP] They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is forever praised. Amen.
[SUP]26 [/SUP] Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.
[SUP]27 [/SUP] In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
[SUP]28 [/SUP] Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done.
[SUP]29 [/SUP] They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips,
[SUP]30 [/SUP] slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents;
[SUP]31 [/SUP] they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless.
[SUP]32 [/SUP] Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
As Christians we are living by a different set of "rules" if you will than those who are non-Christians. Jesus never forced anyone to live by his standards...in fact God does not want those that worship him as robots, but in spirit and in truth. While I do not agree with same sex marriage, just as Christ could not force someone to accept him, we cannot force others to accept our viewpoint. If someone wants to marry the same sex who are we as Christians to point our fingers at them and say YOU CANNOT DO THIS, especially if they are living by a different set of "rules". We live for Christ, they live for themselves we cannot force them to live for Christ the same way they cannot force us to live against Christ, and to be honest no one is forcing any of us to marry one of the same sex. Jesus gave us a choice we can choose to accept him or we can turn it down. If someone wants to choose to live in sin...who am I to demand that they don't? who am I to say I forbid you to turn down Jesus...that's not love...Jesus never forced anyone to accept him...I'll let God be the judge as I know he does a much better job than any Christian out there at it myself included. Someone wants to turn down Christ's offer of salvation, while it pains me to see it, they are in their right to say no. Let's focus on those who want to know Jesus who want to say Yes to his proposal of Salvation. Let's focus on the hungry the "poor" the "widows" and the "orphans".
Absolutely!! AMEN! There is no excuse.
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. Romans 1:28 and 32 KJV
Meaning of reprobate.
a depraved, unprincipled, or wicked person: morally depraved; and predestined to damnation.
But I trust that ye shall know that we are not reprobates. 2 Corinthians 13:6
1 Corinthians 5:6 (ESV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] Your boasting is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump?
Genesis 2:24 (NIV)
[SUP]24 [/SUP] For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.
Leviticus 20:13 (ESV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; . . .
1 Corinthians 6:9-11 (NIV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
[SUP]10 [/SUP] nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
It is a repentable addiction to sin, just like any other addiction to sin.
As long as they do not call themselves Christians, then you may have a point.
However once they want to identify themselves with Christianity then we are obligated to teach them to obey everything HE has commanded, including confessing and repenting of sexual sins.
Matthew 28:19-20 (NIV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
[SUP]20 [/SUP] and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."
Revelation 2:16 (NRSV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] Repent then. If not, I will come to you soon and make war against them with the sword of my mouth.
Revelation 2:20-23 (NRSV)
[SUP]20 [/SUP] But I have this against you: you tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophet and is teaching and beguiling my servants to practice fornication and to eat food sacrificed to idols.
[SUP]21 [/SUP] I gave her time to repent, but she refuses to repent of her fornication.
[SUP]22 [/SUP] Beware, I am throwing her on a bed, and those who commit adultery with her I am throwing into great distress, unless they repent of her doings;
[SUP]23 [/SUP] and I will strike her children dead. And all the churches will know that I am the one who searches minds and hearts, and I will give to each of you as your works deserve.
Gay marriage is as much of a right in God's eyes as robbing a blind woman. You are pathetic as a so called Christian.
I just consider the source. It's weird when one is unsure of their spiritual standing but very sure when it comes to God and what He instituted...
Genesis 2:22-24 (KJV)
22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Since 5 worldly minded (Democratic politically correct) Judges seem to think their position gives them the Authority to change the definition of Marriage, which GOD has already defined in HIS word; I think all of our Christian Churches should react by reissuing EVERY "Marriage Certificate", removing the word Marriage and Entitling it as a "HOLY MATRIMONY CERTIFICATE".
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"In God We Trust" became the USA's official motto in 1956 and was printed
on American currency beginning in 1957. That motto is way overdue to be
removed because I seriously doubt there are enough people in the USA
trusting in God anymore to justify its use. I'd even go so far as to say that
God is insulted by that motto because He knows it isn't true.
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"In God We Trust" became the USA's official motto in 1956 and was printed
on American currency beginning in 1957. That motto is way overdue to be
removed because I seriously doubt there are enough people in the USA
trusting in God anymore to justify its use. I'd even go so far as to say that
God is insulted by that motto because He knows it isn't true.
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